Are you listening to the news? Officer Wilson Not Indicted in Brown Shooting

I, for one, do not think rioting, looting and burning is an acceptable reaction to feeling that justice was not served. Is justice being served to the people whose businesses, homes and cars are being looted and burned??
 

I see nothing in many of these posts that insist the riots must be justified due to the panels judgements. Why it that so? Why do we have courts and panels to determine right and wrong and the mobs of one sided thinkers can just shrug off attempts for fairness and call it wrong and destroy other peoples property in response. I saw a number of white trash in the mob views on TV just recently. White trash as they just do not believe in the ways of the US court system as being good, honest, fair, whatever. The same goes for all the folks using the grand juries responses as an excuse to destroy other peoples properties. Just pure hateful folks and no matter what their color might be. Just like a rowdy gang pushing the communist ways of justice or even the far left socialist attitudes toward showing authority over the others in the community.

Not only in Ferguson but in other cities around the US as well. Spontaneous responses? I doubt it as it does take time to gather materials and stir up crowds into destructive thinking. More like something had been in the planning stage for some weeks and just needed the final statement to get things rolling. If folks really looked into what has happened they could see that much effort went into thinking through what all has happened and what and why they jury decided as they did. These destructive mobs did not take any time to review anything, they just attacked irrationally. They should at least have listened to the family of the dead son. They have been asking for no violence since the very beginning of this jury trial of the situation.

There is not excuse for these rioting mobs of whites and blacks. It is just an excuse for some to pretend to be fighting for some cause or reason. The only reason visible is their love of destruction and the ability to steal lots of items. Pure mob psychology for many of the low brain participants.
 
Sadly... another case of trying the victim... not the murderer. It's what has come to be expected in the Black community.. This seems to be the rule of thumb now. The dead person has to prove they were innocent in their murders, and didn't deserve to die.
 

I actually don't see the point of rioting..looting, and setting fire to buildings..

It is just re-inforcing some peoples views..

What good does it do?

Everytime a black guy gets shot..it's the same old..same old.....

Robbery..arson...WHY???
 
I actually don't see the point of rioting..looting, and setting fire to buildings..

It is just re-inforcing some peoples views..

What good does it do?

Everytime a black guy gets shot..it's the same old..same old.....

Robbery..arson...WHY???


This is exactly what was wanted. Get all the White folks to focus on the riots, looting, and arson, (which I have said is wrong) and even stage an event like was staged last night to incite it.. so we all forget about what has driven this community to this. They don't feel they get to participate in the same justice system that Whites do.. Can you blame them? They don't. They are many more times likely to be convicted of the same crime as Whites.. They have to prove their innocence in a system where Whites are innocent until PROVEN guilty. AND they sometimes go on trial for their own murders... as in the Trayvon Martin case.. and now sadly Michael Brown. Make no mistake about it.. Brown was the one being tried in the Grand Jury hearings.

And judging from the comments being made here... they have succeeded. Just look at THOSE PEOPLE!! Look how they behave..
 
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Sadly... another case of trying the victim... not the murderer. It's what has come to be expected in the Black community.. This seems to be the rule of thumb now. The dead person has to prove they were innocent in their murders, and didn't deserve to die.

This was not a case of try the victim at all. It was a case of deciding just if to try and why. So in the end, the accused was released from any malevolent act and was determined to be more of self defense. Both blacks and whites on this jury agreed so I see no problems at all. I have read some of the comments that were released and those comment purely put the blame on the victim as he was noticed to have charged and recharged toward the policeman and photos of the policeman after the shooting showed red marks on his face an neck from apparent hits from the victim.

I really admire the victims parents and their wishes for no more violence.
 
This is exactly what was wanted. Get all the White folks to focus on the riots, looting, and arson, (which I have said is wrong) and even stage an event like was staged last night to incite it.. so we all forget about what has driven this community to this. They don't feel they get to participate in the same justice system that Whites do.. Can you blame them? They don't. They are many more times likely to be convicted of the same crime as Whites.. They have to prove their innocence in a system where Whites are innocent until PROVEN guilty. AND they sometimes go on trial for their own murders... as in the Trayvon Martin case.. and now sadly Michael Brown. Make no mistake about it.. Brown was the one being tried in the Grand Jury hearings.

And judging from the comments being made here... they have succeeded. Just look at THOSE PEOPLE!! Look how they behave..

But it's true QS..what possible change to the outcome can doing this do..It's always the same...a black guy was shot in London..I was in Birmingham..looting took place..It was just people thieving..did they know the victim??..Did they care?..

It's wrong!!...and it is not going to help their cause..it will just alienate them even further..
 
But it's true QS..what possible change to the outcome can doing this do..It's always the same...a black guy was shot in London..I was in Birmingham..looting took place..It was just people thieving..did they know the victim??..Did they care?..

It's wrong!!...and it is not going to help their cause..it will just alienate them even further..

So what is going to help their cause?

If there are definite inequalities in our Justice System.. What would the course of action be to have it corrected? Pass laws? Yes.. Didn't we have a whole bunch of legislation passed regarding Civil Rights and Voting rights? Somehow that hasn't seemed to help and those rights are being slowly eroded by more legislation from Conservative courts and legislatures.. OK.... Be nice... don't complain.. Don't protest, . accept the inequalities and somehow the powers that be will see that it's wrong and change the system.. sure.. right...... I agree, rioting, looting, and arson are wrong and counter productive.. BUT peaceful and unrelenting protests.. and registering to vote and making sure that every single eligible Black person VOTES... will change a few things. It certainly will get the attention of Conservatives.
 
Rioting, looting and destruction. Do any of them think they are going to earn respect from the rest of the country? I think they are creating prejudice where it didn't exist before.

They don't have to create the prejudice, it's existed for a long, long time, and from the looks of it, will continue long after we're all dead.

WHY did the officer kill him? Why did he fire 12 shots hitting him and additional 5 times AFTER he ran? Did he HAVE to kill the kid? We will never have answers now because it will never see a court of law. THAT is what has infuriated the Community.

I agree, I don't see why he had to kill the young man either, but it's easier to defend your actions that way, dead men can't talk back.

No... the Grand Jury's sole purpose is to decide if an indictment should be issued.. The Prosecutor can also do that. He did not have to bring it before the Grand Jury. This particular Grand Jury overstepped it's role. This was a "Secret" trial and violated the rights of the victim. We will now NEVER know what really happened.. and it's a shame. I do not advocate the violence... but I understand it. The Community feels that justice was not served.

The whole thing was very suspicious and secretive from the beginning, and we actually know nothing more than we did when it happened. Many of us don't feel that justice was served, but that's our justice system, and we have to live with the findings of that jury now.

You could see during the lead up to that decision, what the result was clearly. Why focus on the street witnesses with no credit, why not elaborate on the issue of the murder, and exactly why it happened? If the jury was encouraged to decide on hearsay, that's pretty pathetic, IMO. Even they received no real details on why the killing was needed, why so many shots, etc? Was stealing cigars and jaywalking enough reason to take a life, I don't think so.

The media blew this whole thing way out of proportion from the getgo, they love the drama, they got their ratings, so that's all they care about. I heard that a lot of the protesters were not even Ferguson residents. A lot of the rioters came well prepared to cause destruction and be part of the whole scene. They were saying last night that social media, like twitter and fb, played a big part in helping the rioters organize and plan with each other, not only in Missouri, but also in other states. Luckily the protests where I live were peaceful.

I feel sorry for the innocent people that were driven away from the area, and who will never feel safe there. I've said it before, they not only have to address serious crime in America, like senseless murders, but they have to make some changes in the way the police handle themselves too. It may just be a small percentage of precincts, but this issue cannot be ignored.
 
The Riots, Looting and Burning started last night...right on cue. The Ferguson residents will not only have to deal with the tragedy of this shooting, but also the destruction that the outside agitators have brought to their community. The grand jury heard the evidence, and made their decision, so people should behave like adults, and take peaceful means to proceed, if they are not satisfied. Those involved in these riots should be treated as Home Grown Terrorists, and dealt with accordingly.

As I understand it, the full transcript of the grand jury hearing will be made public in coming days, and will be available for all to read. Those who do not agree with this decision should at least have the good sense to read and review this evidence before they go off on a rampage....or a rant.
 
The Riots, Looting and Burning started last night...right on cue. The Ferguson residents will not only have to deal with the tragedy of this shooting, but also the destruction that the outside agitators have brought to their community. The grand jury heard the evidence, and made their decision, so people should behave like adults, and take peaceful means to proceed, if they are not satisfied. Those involved in these riots should be treated as Home Grown Terrorists, and dealt with accordingly.

As I understand it, the full transcript of the grand jury hearing will be made public in coming days, and will be available for all to read. Those who do not agree with this decision should at least have the good sense to read and review this evidence before they go off on a rampage....or a rant.

Unfortunately NONE of the transcripts of the Grand Jury hearing will answer the fundamental questions. WHY did Daren Wilson have to get out of his squad and kill Michael Brown!... He was killed far away from the squad where he allegedly tried to take Wilson's gun. 108 feet away from the squad to be exact. WHY did he have to be shot dead when he was trying to get away. With no trial, we will never know.. nor will justice be done.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...g-death-of-Mike-Brown-that-just-won-t-go-away#
 
If you have the above questions, you might want to read the transcripts when they become available. The prosecutors interview, last night, and the various news reports this morning, addressed the questions you seem to have, and seem to have been verified by the witnesses. Besides, How do you Know that the transcripts Will Not answer your questions before you have even read them.....
 
Have already said "why" in this Thread and the "why" has been on CNN all morning.......Brown ran away from Wilson, stopped, turned around and CHARGED at Wilson. All evidence and creditable testimony says this. One lawyer stated that Brown wasn't scared of Wilson or the gun in Wilson's hand. Brown was on a mission to hurt Wilson seriously, by trying to get his gun in the patrol car and then charging him, or even kill him!

What more needs to be said??

Unfortunately NONE of the transcripts of the Grand Jury hearing will answer the fundamental questions. WHY did Daren Wilson have to get out of his squad and kill Michael Brown!... He was killed far away from the squad where he allegedly tried to take Wilson's gun. 108 feet away from the squad to be exact. WHY did he have to be shot dead when he was trying to get away. With no trial, we will never know.. nor will justice be done.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...g-death-of-Mike-Brown-that-just-won-t-go-away#
 
Good reply!

If you have the above questions, you might want to read the transcripts when they become available. The prosecutors interview, last night, and the various news reports this morning, addressed the questions you seem to have, and seem to have been verified by the witnesses. Besides, How do you Know that the transcripts Will Not answer your questions before you have even read them.....
 
Have already said "why" in this Thread and the "why" has been on CNN all morning.......Brown ran away from Wilson, stopped, turned around and CHARGED at Wilson. All evidence and creditable testimony says this. One lawyer stated that Brown wasn't scared of Wilson or the gun in Wilson's hand. Brown was on a mission to hurt Wilson seriously, by trying to get his gun in the patrol car and then charging him, or even kill him!

What more needs to be said??

Well... that's what Wilson CLAIMS But without a proper trial with cross examination and a REAL Prosecutor.. we will NEVER know if that's the truth. So.. I guess if this is good enough to put everyone's conscience at ease... so be it.
 
Some on this thread are far to ready to keep the anger and hate going and growing. The trial so far has been run by our countries legal system. To bad some don't like the end result but not enough to justify all the riots and burnings that have been going on. Nothing in the US justifies such wild and unjustified actions. That is the kind of crap that you might find in some countries and their ideas of justice in return are nothing we would want in the US.

And it is not the "Somehow that hasn't seemed to help and those rights are being slowly eroded by more legislation from Conservative courts and legislatures." Want to start blamig the conservatives is a dumb thing to do. We all live in this country together and today we are all about the same number 1/3 conservative, 1/3 liberal, the remaining independent. The country has plenty of room for all of us and such finger pointing proves nothing at all. Far too much legislation has taken freedom from our lives and turned it into government regulations. Not all good at all. Crimes such as these we see today should be treated tightly for they are destroying others investments for their and their children's futures. How many of the businesses and properties are owned or operated by the blacks of those commumities? Likely a lot. Which means to me those rioters are doing a lot of damage for those they are pretending to support. Darned fools. All of them. This country does not need to change its laws, just enforce them and make the penalties fit the crime. Walking away from these riot crimes with no penalties is a shame for all engaging. They are hurting the community for no valid reasons and need punished for doing so and to discourage others from doing the same in the future.
 
Some on this thread are far to ready to keep the anger and hate going and growing. The trial so far has been run by our countries legal system. To bad some don't like the end result but not enough to justify all the riots and burnings that have been going on. Nothing in the US justifies such wild and unjustified actions. That is the kind of crap that you might find in some countries and their ideas of justice in return are nothing we would want in the US.

And it is not the "Somehow that hasn't seemed to help and those rights are being slowly eroded by more legislation from Conservative courts and legislatures." Want to start blamig the conservatives is a dumb thing to do. We all live in this country together and today we are all about the same number 1/3 conservative, 1/3 liberal, the remaining independent. The country has plenty of room for all of us and such finger pointing proves nothing at all. Far too much legislation has taken freedom from our lives and turned it into government regulations. Not all good at all. Crimes such as these we see today should be treated tightly for they are destroying others investments for their and their children's futures. How many of the businesses and properties are owned or operated by the blacks of those commumities? Likely a lot. Which means to me those rioters are doing a lot of damage for those they are pretending to support. Darned fools. All of them. This country does not need to change its laws, just enforce them and make the penalties fit the crime. Walking away from these riot crimes with no penalties is a shame for all engaging. They are hurting the community for no valid reasons and need punished for doing so and to discourage others from doing the same in the future.

I did actually watch the riots in B'ham...the police were too scared to intervene...so as not to inflame them any more..
 
I actually don't see the point of rioting..looting, and setting fire to buildings..

It is just re-inforcing some peoples views..

What good does it do?

Everytime a black guy gets shot..it's the same old..same old.....

Robbery..arson...WHY???

So not true, but, that's what many spout and often believe. Why is that? There have been numerous cases of black men being shot just while doing nothing more than driving while black in recent news, but those stories don't get as much consideration when all we see are the cases where others do wrong. I agree that what's going on in Ferguson is disgusting and uncalled for and no way to get expect or bring about positive changes to the community. The ones wrecking havoc aren't really the ones seeing change, they are just hoodlums, there were many peacefully protesting till the hooligans decided to create mayhem.

I've said it before, I've little sympathy for someone out committing crimes that gets caught in crossfire, I do however feel for the parents. There is something wrong with the mindset of those who think destroying their own community looting and harming, shooting and being destructive in such manners is a means to change. I don't think that's what those doing so seek to begin with, but then again I'm not in their heads. I'm sickened by the behavior.

My sister lost her son, one of my beloved nephews, who was an innocent bystander in a store to some hoodlum, whom was never brought to justice, the shooter was never identified. Her heart never healed. I'll never understand the minds of these criminals who harm others without the blink of an eye whether that be with a gun or their bare hands bunching and choking someone. You strong arm someone, expect to pay the price. At the same time, please stop thinking all black youth and men are the same as what's portrayed on your screen, even in those communities there are intelligent gentle loving hard working young black men trying to make a difference, but are out shadowed by the thugs and attention given to them by the media.

Twixie, I do agree with you, there's no point of looting, setting fires and the like, but as far as reinforcing some people's points of views, only those that have a limited view to begin with will continue to believe as they always have; there are those that understand the virus and that it does not exist within all people due to the color of their skin. Just as I understand not all white people secretly feel they are superior to other ethnic groups or have private kkk meetings nor send in money to support stormfront or all love green been casserole for that matter. :D Imagine if that's how we thought in such a way.
 
The point is that rioting, looting and burning other people's property is plain wrong -- regardless of whether the grand jury's "no true bill" was right or wrong, fair or unfair. Violent mobs do not get to decide the fairness or truth of the outcome of a grand jury.

We have the right to peacefully protest -- NOT to riot and burn! There is NO justification for this kind of behavior.
 
The point is that rioting, looting and burning other people's property is plain wrong -- regardless of whether the grand jury's "no true bill" was right or wrong, fair or unfair. Violent mobs do not get to decide the fairness or truth of the outcome of a grand jury.

We have the right to peacefully protest -- NOT to riot and burn! There is NO justification for this kind of behavior.

Absolutely.. there is no justification. However, I can understand the frustration felt. Doesn't excuse it, but it makes me understand it. When people feel powerless to effect change they can behave badly.
 
Thanks for this info Dame, I don't have TV News, and it's hard to figure which "online" reports are good. Denise
 


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