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Well, I just got off the phone with a friend who is visiting her friend who just came from her doctor she saw for Shingles.
I don't understand the connection, but her doctor said the Shingles was likely the result of her Covid shot she had 3 weeks ago. Maybe if the Shingles virus is in someone's system but it's inactive/dormant, the vaccine may somehow be too much for the immune system to handle. Makes me wonder what other conditions can be activated. I had shingles 36 years ago. It never came back.
It will be interesting if they start reporting that as a side effect in the future. She's 70.
 

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win231 said:
Well, I just got off the phone with a friend who is visiting her friend who just came from her doctor she saw for Shingles.
I don't understand the connection, but her doctor said the Shingles was likely the result of her Covid shot she had 3 weeks ago. Maybe if the Shingles virus is in someone's system but it's inactive/dormant, the vaccine may somehow be too much for the immune system to handle.
It will be interesting if they start reporting that as a side effect in the future. She's 70.
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There has been some chatter about that lately but you may want to check a WebMD article that tries to debunk the connection.
 
JonDouglas said:
Free booze used to buy a lot of votes in Chicago and perhaps it still does. I wonder how well it will buy vaccinations.
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I hope people are smarter than that Jon. If someone is terrified at the prospect of contracting covid 19 they should be vaccinated. If not they should consider what's really on the line here. Money shouldn't be a factor. The fact that it is becoming one says something about the mind set of those pushing the mass vaccination program which is really just a trial with human instead of animal subjects.
 

win231 said:
Well, I just got off the phone with a friend who is visiting her friend who just came from her doctor she saw for Shingles.
I don't understand the connection, but her doctor said the Shingles was likely the result of her Covid shot she had 3 weeks ago. Maybe if the Shingles virus is in someone's system but it's inactive/dormant, the vaccine may somehow be too much for the immune system to handle.
It will be interesting if they start reporting that as a side effect in the future. She's 70.
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I can't help but think how many side-effects are not being reported.
 
win231 said:
her doctor said the Shingles was likely the result of her Covid shot she had 3 weeks ago.
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Here is a video that explains why the vaccine shedding happens. <--
Relatedly, here is a statement <-- and here is a video <-- showing a lack of any virus isolation.
The only sources I found that try to debunk the shedding are controlled by the same groups behind
the production and distribution of the vaccines, and interestingly, they've never been able to isolate any viruses.
 
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Liberty said:
Think is aggravates those that have a fear of needles to keep seeing these "jabbing" shot pix over and over again on the news. It is an added bonus to hear of those "long haulers" getting
symptomatic relief from the vaccine. Got a good friend who has the fatigue and other issues, so hopefully he may be helped when he gets the shot.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...haulers-symptoms-are-disappearing/ar-BB1gmHRR
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Yes, I thought the same thing about constant videos of people getting vaccinated. I think it's a double-edge sword.
 
win231 said:
Now that they're reporting less & less people wanting the vaccine, we can't expect much honesty about harmful side effects; the whole idea is to get more people vaccinated.
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Remembering how President Eisenhower warned of the power of the industrial complex and knowing how government politicians and bureaucracies can push an agenda, I wouldn't bet against you.
 
John cycling said:
Here is a video that explains why the vaccine shedding happens. <--
Relatedly, here is a statement <-- and here is a video <-- showing a lack of any virus isolation.
The only sources I found that try to debunk the shedding are controlled by the same groups behind
the production and distribution of the vaccines, and interestingly, they've never been able to isolate any viruses.
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I couldn’t play the video. There’s a few videos out on this so I’ll check them out. Here’s info that I found about the vaccination shedding. There IS actually such a thing but apparently it doesn’t happen with the Covid 19 vaccine according to this article.
https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/what-is-vaccine-shedding-covid
 
win231 said:
Now that they're reporting less & less people wanting the vaccine, we can't expect much honesty about harmful side effects; the whole idea is to get more people vaccinated.
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Speaking of honesty, how about the idea that the CDC has been dramatically overstating the outdoor transmission of covid-19. I saw this bit come across and then checked the source.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) exaggerated the rate of outdoor transmission of the coronavirus, according to a report by The New York Times (NYT).​
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The CDC announced in April that a majority of COVID-19 transmission happens indoors, with “less than 10 percent of documents transmission” occurring outdoors. The NYT, however, reported the number is misleading and is based on a misclassification of how some cases of the virus were spread.​
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Virologist at the University of St. Andrews Dr. Muge Cevik said the number “seems to be a huge exaggeration,” according to the NYT.​

The initial source was the New York Times. Somebody tell Fauci and then ask yourself what other numbers might be or have been a huge exaggeration. It is a valid question, not some conspiracy.
 
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JonDouglas said:
Speaking of honesty, how about the idea that the CDC has been dramatically overstating the outdoor transmission of covid-19. I saw this bit come across and then checked the source.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) exaggerated the rate of outdoor transmission of the coronavirus, according to a report by The New York Times (NYT).​
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The CDC announced in April that a majority of COVID-19 transmission happens indoors, with “less than 10 percent of documents transmission” occurring outdoors. The NYT, however, reported the number is misleading and is based on a misclassification of how some cases of the virus were spread.​
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Virologist at the University of St. Andrews Dr. Muge Cevik said the number “seems to be a huge exaggeration,” according to the NYT.​

The initial source was the New York Times. Somebody tell Fauci and then ask yourself what other numbers might be or have been a huge exaggeration. It is a valid question, not some conspiracy.
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There's so much more going on with this pandemic than meets the eye and certainly than the CDC/Dr. Fauci will ever admit to. No way this came from a bat. But now they have to clean up the mess. It's political and a person wears their affiliation on their faces and carries it on their phones. They're so committed to mass vaccinations they will never relent on it.

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chic said:
There's so much more going on with this pandemic than meets the eye and certainly than the CDC/Dr. Fauci will ever admit to. No way this came from a bat. But now they have to clean up the mess. It's political and a person wears their affiliation on their faces and carries it on their phones. They're so committed to mass vaccinations they will never relent on it.

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Well said!

And, our authorities are hiding the truth behind their masks.
 
Aunt Marg said:
Well said!

And, our authorities are hiding the truth behind their masks.
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Yes. I'm afraid we will never learn the real truth about how this virus started. It would make a good subject for the cold case files.

But Dr. Fauci was heavily involved with that lab in Wuhan creating viruses to study so they could create vaccines to cure them. His/U.S.involvement was halted in 2015 but allowed to resume in 2017. It never should have been allowed to resume. This is germ warfare. Not a natural event.
 
chic said:
Yes. I'm afraid we will never learn the real truth about how this virus started. It would make a good subject for the cold case files.

But Dr. Fauci was heavily involved with that lab in Wuhan creating viruses to study so they could create vaccines to cure them. His/U.S.involvement was halted in 2015 but allowed to resume in 2017. It never should have been allowed to resume. This is germ warfare. Not a natural event.
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I agree with all that you said wholeheartedly, Chic.
 
chic said:
Yes. I'm afraid we will never learn the real truth about how this virus started. It would make a good subject for the cold case files.

But Dr. Fauci was heavily involved with that lab in Wuhan creating viruses to study so they could create vaccines to cure them. His/U.S.involvement was halted in 2015 but allowed to resume in 2017. It never should have been allowed to resume. This is germ warfare. Not a natural event.
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Fauci got grilled pretty good on that in the Senate. You might want to check that out yourself as any posting of that here would have political overtones that would give the mods work they don't need.
 
Researchers warn that Pfizer vaccine induces complex reprogramming of innate immune responses. From news-medical.net:

Researchers in The Netherlands and Germany have warned that Pfizer-BioNTech’s coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) vaccine induces complex reprogramming of innate immune responses that should be considered in the development and use of mRNA-based vaccines.​
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Jorge Domínguez-Andrés and colleagues say that while the vaccine has been shown to be up to 95% effective in preventing infection with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) and subsequent COVID-19, little is known about the broad effects the vaccine may have on the innate and adaptive immune responses.​
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Entire article at source.
 
chic said:
I think everything is still experimental but they cannot or will not admit this.
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They do tell those not vaccinated to still follow the guidelines so we know the virus is still out there and the most dangerous to them...I feel more protected now after getting both doses and a month later. The vaccine is 96% effective in not getting drastically ill and they say from the variants too.
 
chic said:
I think everything is still experimental but they cannot or will not admit this.
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They havnt researched these vaccines enough......boris Johnson, had no choice but to start dishing these jabs out........but now !! giving it to under 30s and children, I think will be damaging in the long run x
 

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