Bernie Sanders to run!!!

QuickSilver said:
Really.... would you care to show some of my "Attacks"... or my "Name Calling".. Please... PLEASE repost them.. I'd be interested in seeing them..
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Just for you to read as anything I post you will reject and toss more trash my way. You are the poison problem on this forum. Not me.
 

BobF said:
Just for you to read as anything I post you will reject and toss more trash my way. You are the poison problem on this forum. Not me.
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All you have to do is QUOTE any post of mine that has name calling... and It cannot be refuted... Since you claim I am doing this... You should be able to back it up... Right? If you cannot do this.. then you owe me an apology... Right?
 
Come on BOB.... show me my "Poison"..... and I will post 10 posts of yours. I am going to hold you to this.... because I am getting sick of your accusations.... when YOU are the only one posting poison.
 

Let's go BOB.... You are trying my patience.... let's see all my name calling and poison... If you cannot produce it.. .then I suggest you STFU.
 
AZ Jim said:
You are missing the point Bob. You said you were earning .25 per hour in a retail store in 1949. By law, that is impossible.
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OK Jim, I admit that what I was saying might be wrong. What I have been looking for I am not finding. I did work for .25 cents for two years but I was actually holding down two jobs at the time. I also worked in an old water powered flour mill after school. But my mornings and week ends I was working the grocery store. I suppose then that I was making the minimum. In the summer time I was working in root beer stand as a car order taker and deliverer. Not a fun job at all. I don't remember that wage rate either, but we did get to keep the tips, if any.

Sorry about my outburst, but it was not intended for you at all.

And yes there are some lower limits of employees where no minimum is required. But that would not include my grocery store times. So I guess I was on the .75 cent wage then.

I know that when I worked there was a minimum start wage for some number of days and then you could get raises. That was on most jobs I have held over the years. So this minimum wage was just that, the least you can get for certain jobs. Some states do try to make the minimum wages higher than federal, but I think most just go with the federal minimum.
 
BobF said:
OK Jim, I admit that what I was saying might be wrong. What I have been looking for I am not finding. I did work for .25 cents for two years but I was actually holding down two jobs at the time. I also worked in an old water powered flour mill after school. But my mornings and week ends I was working the grocery store. I suppose then that I was making the minimum. In the summer time I was working in root beer stand as a car order taker and deliverer. Not a fun job at all. I don't remember that wage rate either, but we did get to keep the tips, if any.

Sorry about my outburst, but it was not intended for you at all.

And yes there are some lower limits of employees where no minimum is required. But that would not include my grocery store times. So I guess I was on the .75 cent wage then.

I know that when I worked there was a minimum start wage for some number of days and then you could get raises. That was on most jobs I have held over the years. So this minimum wage was just that, the least you can get for certain jobs. Some states do try to make the minimum wages higher than federal, but I think most just go with the federal minimum.
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That's all well and good BOB... but where is your apology to ME.... or at least prove that I have called you or anyone names... Sorry...you are not getting off easy... I will continue to ask.
 
Read your own posts back to yourself and tell my I owe you an apology. I don't as your attitude and the way you write are repulsive to say the least.
 
BobF said:
Read your own post back to yourself and tell my I owe you and apology. I don't as your attitude and the way you write are repulsive to say the least.
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I'm repulsive? YOU made the accusation... YOU prove it... and if you cannot... then you should apologize...as any MAN would do.
 
Where did ya go Bob... You accuse me of calling you names... Yet you cannot come up with any example... However, I have shown where you have called me names over and over... You accuse me of being repulsive... when all I have done is prove my point... As far as I can see, you are completely and totally out of line here....If you refuse to give me an apology... I will understand... It takes a real MAN to admit they are wrong.. not every male can do that.
 
Ya know bob... I don't mean to be a pest.. or to harrass you... BUT you have stated that I have called you names and have posted "Poison"... If that's true... then I would really like to see where I have so I can avoid it in the future... Please... show me... K?
 
QuickSilver said:
Sorry... minimum wage in 1949 and 1950 was 75 cents an hour ... you are probabley "misremembering" because I doubt if A&P would break Federal law.
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Is it possible that there was a youth wage that was less than the adult wage back then? This was the case in OZ. You didn't get full basic wage until 21 or 22 years old. The wage at 15 was much less and it rose gradually each year until the full adult rate was achieved. Females did not receive full male basic wage rates because the basic wage was supposed to be enough for a man to support a family but women workers were mostly single and it was considered that they didn't need as much.
 
From what I have read, a youth wage ( people under 20) was implemented in 1996, for $4.25 per hour for a period of 90 days only.. after that, the federal minimum wage of $7.25 must be paid.. The exception is those working for tips.. they can be paid $2.13 an hour.. My research shows no youth wage prior to that... The minimum wage was implemented in 1933 for $.25 per hour... it was $.75 in 1949. I believe the history of the mimimum wage in the US is posted up thread.
 
Bernie Sanders on social security. http://thinkprogress.org/economy/20...ers-plans-dramatically-alter-social-security/


Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) announced his candidacy for the presidency on Thursday with the goal of promoting progressive polices to reduce income inequality, climate change, and the influence of big money in American politics. Sanders hopes to inject his solutions into the national political conversation and shift the Overton window on a host of domestic and international priories.

Chief among them is Social Security, a program he describes as one of the “most successful government programs in American history.” However, without changes — benefit cuts or tax increases — the fund that maintains Social Security won’t be able to pay-out all of its obligations by 2033, leading lawmakers to propose a series of solutions to extend the program’s solvency.

Sanders has long warned against prescriptions that would cut benefits or slow their growth, upending Washington’s consensus that government needs to cut entitlement programs to keep them sustainable. Instead, he has proposed legislation to expand the program.
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Yeah, I like Bernie Sanders and it's about time someone spoke up for the average American!

He's been on MSNBC for almost two years it seems, I've always enjoyed what he had to say and am so glad he's running and gaining momentum as fast as people hear him speak!

Give 'em hell Bernie! Feel the Bern!

Thx :untroubled:
 
Bernie is too far out for Hillary to risk him for VP. She will probably go with a moderate Hispanic...
 
One of my close American friends, himself a Democrat, referred to Bernie as a Communist. At first, I thought he was joking, but apparently not. Here in Canada, where Communism is legal, Mr. Sanders would be viewed as slightly left of Centre Left, but to the right of the Greens, hardly a Communist, unless Socialist and Communist are somehow synonymous?? I don't understand. Do many Americans not distinguish between the two?
 
His ideas on government providing free day care and college education for all is just a couple of examples of why he is considered just too far left, be it what ever you want to call it...
 
Shalimar said:
One of my close American friends, himself a Democrat, referred to Bernie as a Communist. At first, I thought he was joking, but apparently not. Here in Canada, where Communism is legal, Mr. Sanders would be viewed as slightly left of Centre Left, but to the right of the Greens, hardly a Communist, unless Socialist and Communist are somehow synonymous?? I don't understand. Do many Americans not distinguish between the two?
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Obviously your friend had communism and socialism confused... Not surprising though, many Americans don't know the difference.
 
Shalimar said:
Thanks, QS. I was taken aback by his vehement response. He seemed to feel as threatened by what he viewed as Socialism/Communism, as he did by terrorism.
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Seriously... there are many that believe Socialism to be synonymous with communism..and I have gotten tired of trying to enlighten them.. They are only showing their ignorance. Unfortunately they vote their ignorance and we all have to live with it.
 
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