Bill Cosby - Guilty on all counts

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Not much surprises me anymore, but I can still be disappointed. I just have to shake my head at folks who implicitly support Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein, etc. I see it on here an on other sites. It is sickening and cowardly.
 

911 said:
We have all heard that rape is not about the sex, but is about the control. I happen to go along with this theory. I arrested a 20 year-old neighbor for assaulting and raping his 77 year-old next door neighbor. His defense was that he was stoned out of his mind, but nonetheless, the court did not take any mercy on him. The judge sentenced him to 15 years in prison, plus a $10,000.00 fine and restitution to the woman for medical and psychological bills. He will serve every day of that 15 year prison sentence as the judge did not allow for any early release or parole.

When I went to arrest this bum, another Trooper and myself, plus one of our Investigators was also there. He tried to run out the back door where the other Trooper was waiting for him. As I was cuffing him, I asked him if he never watched any crime shows on TV. He asked me why would he do that. I told him that then he would have known that we always guard the exits on a building. There's no other feeling like having a .45 pointed at your head.
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That 77 yr old victim will be 92 when her rapist is released (if she is still alive). It's doubtful she will benefit from any restitution.
 
Hoot N Annie said:
Not much surprises me anymore, but I can still be disappointed. I just have to shake my head at folks who implicitly support Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein, etc. I see it on here an on other sites. It is sickening and cowardly.
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Since you brought up Weinstein....

What exactly did he do WRONG ? As I understand it he said to certain women...you want to be in my movie / a movie I have influence in ? I want sex in return.
That's a business deal, plan & simple. And again as I understand it some of them agreed to the deal. Ashley Judd comes to mind....So now 30 or so years later she has this remorse ?...And she wants action against him/wants to sue...AFTER she has become a mega star & made millions from the deal....just another gold digger.
 

911 said:
We have all heard that rape is not about the sex, but is about the control. I happen to go along with this theory. I arrested a 20 year-old neighbor for assaulting and raping his 77 year-old next door neighbor. His defense was that he was stoned out of his mind, but nonetheless, the court did not take any mercy on him. The judge sentenced him to 15 years in prison, plus a $10,000.00 fine and restitution to the woman for medical and psychological bills. He will serve every day of that 15 year prison sentence as the judge did not allow for any early release or parole.

When I went to arrest this bum, another Trooper and myself, plus one of our Investigators was also there. He tried to run out the back door where the other Trooper was waiting for him. As I was cuffing him, I asked him if he never watched any crime shows on TV. He asked me why would he do that. I told him that then he would have known that we always guard the exits on a building. There's no other feeling like having a .45 pointed at your head.
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That fact has been known for decades, but you'd be surprised (or maybe not) at how it's still often used as an excuse. I've even seen it here on this forum and another forum, comments as extreme as even wearing makeup amounts to 'taunting men,' etc. Nope, if an individual wants to harm someone, he wouldn't care if she was old or dressed like Little House on the Prairie.
 
JaniceM said:
That fact has been known for decades, but you'd be surprised (or maybe not) at how it's still often used as an excuse. I've even seen it here on this forum and another forum, comments as extreme as even wearing makeup amounts to 'taunting men,' etc. Nope, if an individual wants to harm someone, he wouldn't care if she was old or dressed like Little House on the Prairie.
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Qft. Among the victims, mostly female, of the recent van attack in Toronto, was a woman in her nineties. Although the perp, native born, and Elliot Rodger and Incel aficionado, hated popular guys and women,(Chads and Stacys,) the elderly lady was not in that category. This man, university educated, a tech wiz, was certainly not a deprived person, but clearly, mentally unbalanced.
 
JaniceM said:
That fact has been known for decades, but you'd be surprised (or maybe not) at how it's still often used as an excuse. I've even seen it here on this forum and another forum, comments as extreme as even wearing makeup amounts to 'taunting men,' etc. Nope, if an individual wants to harm someone, he wouldn't care if she was old or dressed like Little House on the Prairie.
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Even nuns, wearing oldfashioned habits, are not immune.
 
Gary O' said:
To support a skewed slant.
Many a thread, oftentimes very unrelated, have gone this route of how wimin have ruined lives

get's tedious at best

pretty much gives this marvelous site a weird view to a newcomer
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Agreed, particularly when coupled with political overtones. Interesting how the female posters do not denigrate men in such fashion.
 
Keesha said:
Wealth and social status are very relevant to the situation and might be one of the main reasons why most women didn’t speak up about it when it first happened. After all, who is going to believe Mr. Jello man, with the squeaky clean image would do such a thing? He also has money to hire the best lawyers & spokespeople, so how is it not relevant at all in ‘this’ situation but do admit than normally it shouldn’t matter. A crime is a crime regardless.



Sickening but thank you! All this talk about how provocatively dressed some woman are, ( like ‘this’ is a justifiable reason to rape ) truly turns my stomach.
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Mine also.
 
Shalimar said:
Agreed, particularly when coupled with political overtones. Interesting how the female posters do not denigrate men in such fashion.
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Well, you know the old saying- 'A man is what his mother made him.'
I'd stake a bet on it that any member of the male gender who has hatefulness or extreme disrespect for women should think about where his reasons really came from.
 
It might have something to do with being raped in divorce court, being treated like a walking ATM machine, losing custody of his children, and/or having his heart ripped out, once too often. Other than that I can't think of a single reason
 
Traveler said:
It might have something to do with being raped in divorce court, being treated like a walking ATM machine, losing custody of his children, and/or having his heart ripped out, once too often. Other than that I can't think of a single reason
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Thats really very unfortunate Traveler but none of US inflicted that pain on you.
Its no reason to lash out @ ALL women.
We aren’t trying to abuse you :shrug:
 
I'm talking about the experience of MILLIONS of men. Every day that passes, more and more men are beginning to realize that the ONLY winning move, is not to play the game.
 
Oh I see! You’re gonna play the ‘ALL men’ card.
Well unfortunately there are many men who get taken advantage of by women and get hurt
Just like there are many women that get hurt by men , but that doesn’t mean we need to paint ‘the other gender’ as the ‘enemy.’

If we all lead with our wounds, nobody would speak to each other.
Rise above the pain and find your serenity or you’ll be forever bitter.


Wise words for us all to live by.
 
Keesha said:
Oh I see! You’re gonna play the ‘ALL men’ card.
Well unfortunately there are many men who get taken advantage of by women and get hurt
Just like there are many women that get hurt by men , but that doesn’t mean we need to paint ‘the other gender’ as the ‘enemy.’

If we all lead with our wounds, nobody would speak to each other.
Rise above the pain and find your serenity or you’ll be forever bitter.


Wise words for us all to live by.
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D’accord! You and I, mon ami, we could point the finger at all men for the behaviour of a few, but why give up our power? Why cripple ourselves, live frightened and alone because of a minority? Then they win! They will never destroy our spirits.
 
rgp said:
Since you brought up Weinstein....

What exactly did he do WRONG ? As I understand it he said to certain women...you want to be in my movie / a movie I have influence in ? I want sex in return.
That's a business deal, plan & simple. And again as I understand it some of them agreed to the deal. Ashley Judd comes to mind....So now 30 or so years later she has this remorse ?...And she wants action against him/wants to sue...AFTER she has become a mega star & made millions from the deal....just another gold digger.
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rpg -Thanks for you post. It is a great example of excusing behavior that is both sickening and cowardly. Most folks find the idea of demanding sex to obtain a job as beyond odious, nasty and cowardly. It is not "a business deal, plain & simple". It is disgusting form of coercion. No woman (or man) should have to make the choice.

Get help. Seriously.
 
Shalimar said:
D’accord! You and I, mon ami, we could point the finger at all men for the behaviour of a few, but why give up our power? Why cripple ourselves, live frightened and alone because of a minority? Then they win! They will never destroy our spirits.
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Yes indeed! I feel bad about stuff that doesn’t concern me , thinking perhaps I can help.
It’s something I find myself doing all the time so thanks for the reminder girlfriend.
You are a good influence on me.

:chocolate: :flowers: Just for you!
Women are awesome :heart:
 
Hoot N Annie said:
rpg -Thanks for you post. It is a great example of excusing behavior that is both sickening and cowardly. Most folks find the idea of demanding sex to obtain a job as beyond odious, nasty and cowardly. It is not "a business deal, plain & simple". It is disgusting form of coercion. No woman (or man) should have to make the choice.

Get help. Seriously.
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:yes: Well stated!
 
Hoot N Annie said:
rpg -Thanks for you post. It is a great example of excusing behavior that is both sickening and cowardly. Most folks find the idea of demanding sex to obtain a job as beyond odious, nasty and cowardly. It is not "a business deal, plain & simple". It is disgusting form of coercion. No woman (or man) should have to make the choice.

Get help. Seriously.
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Sorry to disappoint but it IS a business deal. Exactly the same as prostitution. Women have absolutely no problem using sex when it suits their needs. Hungry ? No place to live ? No problem ! Just get some guy to take care of her. It's no different today than it was 2,000 years ago. Women have been trading sex for goodies ever since time began.

That woman, Ashley Judd could have said , "Bugger off" and walked out the door. But she didn't, did she. She wanted the goodies. Sex is a tool that women use to get what they want. And, boy, oh boy. Are they ever experts at it.
 
Curious ......
Is anyone interested in discussing the topic - Bill Cosby case - (as opposed to analyzing Traveler and rgp's "issues")?
Those two members issues could be delved into via PM or a separate thread.
Just sayin' :whome:

Otherwise, mod, could you please lock/close this thread? Thanks.
 
Falcon said:
I'm sure you all
have heard of the "Casting Couch" In movie studios.

"Just lie down here Darlin' and we'll see how anxious you are to appear in this film."
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Yes but we aren’t ALL interested or stupid enough to fall for it.
The questionable actions of ‘some’ women , don’t make us all bad.
Thats like saying that just because ‘some men ‘ are drug addicts who beat on their wives, means ALL men have to pay for it.
 

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