Biology defines woman - maybe this is the best answer.

Sassycakes said:
In my opinion, the difference is how men differ from women by how they do things. For example, women think with their brains while men use a different part of their body that decides how they think and I am sure you all know what part that is. 🙃
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Women who think that are often the women who lack the self esteem & intelligence to recognize a decent man from a bum. Admitting you choose poorly is more difficult than blaming men for your bad choices.
 
Lavinia said:
Anyone who watches archaeology programmes will know that when a skeleton is dug up, it is examined by professionals who determine the gender by the bone structure. You can chop bits off and stick bits on, but you can't change the basic skeleton.
I started a thread on this very subject.
Whatever gender you are born with, you remain for the rest of your life.
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Yes, you did. And as I remember it was closed. (n) Always appreciate your narrow-minded perspective.
 
I see that at long last, the world of sport is starting to show a bit of common sense. They seem to have accepted the fact that there are physical differences between the bodies of men and women, and removing the *******s does not turn a male into a female.
(I'm referring here to the trans cyclist who has now been barred from participating in a womens cycling event).
 
feywon said:
I saw nothing in @chic's OP to indicate that her focus was on transgender women (i.e. born male physically) in women's sports but i could be wrong.

I do agree that when it comes to competitions this is something for the sports officials need to think about and form guidelines about. But then sports have never been high on my list of priorities and interests.
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You're absolutely correct. I stated or tried to state a biological fact. The rest is sophistry = the inability / refusal to admit what is perfectly apparent due to manipulation of language intended to confuse and divide us. So I will not participate in this thread anymore. Please don't think I am ignoring you. I want nothing to do with further division.

Thank you.
 
Chris P Bacon said:
Consider it done. Which medical or biological dictionary is the most authoritative though? I’d imagine that there must be more than one. I’d hate to get my facts wrong again. You seem to feel you’re an expert on the subject so do share your expert knowledge. Miriam-Webster has one but you say their definitions are no good. From the few other medical non Merriam-Webster-Webster medical dictionaries I’m able to find, their definitions seem to correlate what I found n my first search. I’m not saying that you may have knowledge that I do not but I will say that you may have opinions and biases that I do not. Please do share your sources of reference?
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Over the years, MW dictionary has often leaned too hard toward popular opinion rather than fact. Compare today's copy to one from 1950 for instance, and see how certain words have changed definition.
 
oldaunt said:
I used to be referred to as a tomboy, and often. Never really cared much for girlie stuff, but at the end of the day I'm still a woman. I'm happy with having the best of both sides. Who says you have to choose?
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Count me in that club. Dad only had girls so we learned how to use tools, follow written and verbal instructions. This week i put in some new piping for new water heater, including for the relief valve outflow which had to have a couple of 'joints' cause the bathroom in this old house is so small and only one option where to put the heater.

But i love to dance and it was a major social activity for me when young. Now i dance around the house. And i've had 3 kids. But like most 'females' here am now post menopausal.
 
Murrmurr said:
Yes, the reference book is Gray's, written by Henry Gray. The color grey is spelled grey, and Earl Grey tea is spelled grey and I'm pretty familiar with those two greys. ;)
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I totally missed the Gray/Grey spelling issues. 🤪 Couldn't understand why the tv show kept coming up in the discussion. But my hair is gray, not grey... :)

Here's the relevant Gray's Anatomy.

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AnnieA said:
I totally missed the Gray/Grey spelling issues. 🤪 Couldn't understand why the tv show kept coming up in the discussion. But my hair is gray, not grey... :)

Here's the relevant Gray's Anatomy.

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Per Mirriam-Webster: Gray and grey are both common spellings of the color between black and white. Gray is more frequent in American English, whereas grey is more common in British English.

However, in grade-school I learned the spelling for the color is g-r-e-y.
 
Warrigal said:
One of my grand daughters is XXY
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Are you comfortable telling us what the effects are? I have never known anyone with XXY.
Murrmurr said:
However, in grade-school I learned the spelling for the color is g-r-e-y.
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Things like that from grade school didn't stick with me. I use the spellings interchangeably, gray or grey - but maybe that's bad gris-gris.
 
Sorry, I made a mistake. She is XXX, not XXY.

She has some cognitive impairment but manages to handle her phone better than I do.
She cannot hold down a job and lives on a disability pension. She cannot manage maths or budgeting and her mother is her legal guardian. On the weekends she does face painting for children at a local market to make a little extra pocket money.

Of all my grandchildren (I have six) she is the most loving and attentive and we have a very special relationship.
 
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