I thought you were done but you finally answered one question without skirting around it. It has plenty to do with the conversation. It's one of the cautions presented by the government on legalizing marijuana.
Why are you introducing alcohol? It has nothing to do with conversation.
You actually were the first person to introduce it into the conversation. Page 2 - first post.
Good answer. Therefore they are harmful.
On the contrary. Everything is not cut and dry and you do your own thing. You have a responsibility to others around you. You just don't jump into a car and do your own thing. You follow the rules the government posted.
I wasn't the one making comparisons to alcohol. I didn't bring it up first. It was the pro pot posters who were trying to diminish the use of pot by comparing it to alcohol.
I would have been perfectly happy without a casino in our city. Dumbing down to me, means impairing your brain with substances that affect your brain and I include all drugs in that category.
You were celebrating the legalization of cannabis. I wasn't.
Oh we know that. Plenty were using so why legalize it? My point again was those who were not using it because it was not legal were now going to start.
Well I posted an article from the Government of Canada claiming that MJ impaired is outpacing alcohol.
I followed the thread. I copy over and respond to all the posts I am interested in.
Who mentioned anything about jumping into a car impaired? I never said I was for that and yes you did mention alcohol first.
Perhaps before writing things down you may want to read what has been written first. You once again talk about dumbing down the entire country with drugs ( an insult to ALL Canadians) and then ironically say you are talking about ALL drugs yet YOU use alcohol which is a drug, so I find your posts quite hypocritical.
What you don't understand is that Canada introduced a Federal law covering the entire country.
The U.S. goes state by state. Some states are opposed. Others are in favor.
So the study in Pennsylvania finds your favor but the Canadian one does not?
We didn't get that choice by province.
I'm sure if we did a province by province analysis we would see a different set of statistics.
My real point in all this discussion? Cannabis was legalized. Let the chips fall where they may. It's not something to celebrated and be proud of.
Yes I do understand that Canada legalized cannabis federally. I wrote all about it in the beginning of this thread. You just didn’t read it.
I am dreading it. We have enough trouble with alcohol.
HERE is where you first introduced alcohol into the subject and then bashed me for doing it.
Warnings on cigarette packages and incriminating tobacco. And then smoking weed?
The world has gone mad.
You then brought cigarettes into the conversation and criticized the entire world for going mad.
I will admit to that. Not a problem for me. There are only two people in this world that are sane. You and me. And I'm not so sure about you.
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So you decided to criticize me suggesting that I was insane.
No biggie. I can handle it.
Yes! People should check THC levels, understand that there are different strains and know themselves and the cannabis they are using. It IS a drug after all and just like consuming alcohol, people need to take responsibility for themselves and know what they are consuming.
There are also different methods of usage. Some people shouldn’t use it. Period.
It’s not a drug for everyone and it’s certainly not a ‘one size fits all’ drug.
Here is where I clearly state that marijuana is in fact a drug that should NOT be used by everybody. People who use need to be responsible consumers.
The statistics currently show that alcohol is far more likely to induce unpleasant emotional/mental effects that marijuana. I have yet to hear of crazed weed imbibers going into homicidal rages etc.
Directly from our resident psychologist.
Loll. Alcohol is legal in both our countries, is everyone drunk?
Our country works federally. Our health care system is federal and paid for by our government , whereas yours isn’t.
With us being fully legal it’ might bring competition to the U.S.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/4556606/us-cannabis-firms-trump-canada/amp/
, but with how polar opposite the opinions are from state to state regarding marijuana , the chance of all states unanimously agreeing to legalization are slim to none at the current moment.
Currently there are 31 states that are legal ( 9 recreationally and 22 medicinally ) but since marijuana is such a controversial business , financial investing isn’t easy to get in the U.S. so many businesses are moving to Canada to gain some capital.
Canada not only legalized marijuana but are giving amnesty to those previously convicted of having 30 grams or less. Their conviction will be absolved and pardoned in Canada however Trump threatens to prosecute these individuals to the fullest if they try to cross the border.
No, Federal legalization in the U.S. probably isn’t going to happen any time soon, ‘in my personal opinion.’
Here is where I mention about Canada being federally legalized.
I can't get excited about anything that impairs your brain function
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You might not get excited about your drug of choice but it STILL impairs your brain function. Alcohol has the ability to do that.
I looked at the lineups. There were no old bald guys there that I could see. Just young people lining up to destroy their lives over a drug that has no beneficial purposes. Even for medical uses. It's not a cure. It's a panacea.
Another extremely judgmental comment on your part. For the record, there WERE plenty of bald headed guys lining up to legally purchase and there certainly ARE medical benefits to using marijuana.
Send me a list of cures. It's recreational meaning it's for fun. That's what legalization is all about. A legal drug like alcohol.It's all about getting high. That's the reason for the huge demand.
We already had legal medicinal purposes.
The dumbing down of Canada.
Another insult to ALL Canadians. You do realize that if there are health benefits to marijuana then that’s pertains to recreational marijuana as well. There isn’t different legal marijuana with benefits and plain marijuana with no health benefits. Medical marijuana certainly is of a higher quality though which I discussed earlier in this conversation. That would mean you’d have to read some though.
The infused canna butter method didn’t post so I will repost.
With Canada being legal now Canadian citizens don’t have to go through the government and everyone can legally make this
There are scholarly documents proving that marijuana has many, many medicinal benefits including helping opioid addiction,
treating MS, autism, Parkinson’s disease, cancer, epilepsy, glaucoma, anxiety, and other disorders.
Our prime minister says he won't use it.
He even says he predicts crime will decrease across the country now that people can easily access the drug across the country.
Yeah sure it will.
Great. This is promising then.
Early data suggests NO SPIKE in POT INDUCED DRIVING after legalization, police say.
Canadian police have not seen a spike in cannabis-impaired driving one month since legalization, but there needs to be more awareness of laws around storing marijuana in vehicles and passengers smoking weed, law enforcement officials say.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pot-impaired-driving-no-spike-1.4906550
Way to go Canada. You make us proud.
Is this a joke? There is no roadside test for marijuana like there is for alcohol. So if a policeman stops a vehicle for speeding and smells marijuana, what test do they apply to determine if there is impairment? Answer. None.
So how can you say they haven't noticed a spike. They don't have a clue. Is anybody that naive that they think that drivers don't drive under the impairment of marijuana and maybe even combine it with a few shots of vodka?
I was against the legalization because medical marijuana has always been available in Canada.
So what have we gained. Because it's legal now, people will try it. Dumbing down the population of Canada is not my idea of making Canada proud. Anything that impairs the mind is harmful and especially in young people. So how do you keep it away from them? The celebration is way too early. We need to wait for the long term effects that we realized in smoking.
And here Canadian government are doing everything they can to minimize smoking tobacco. They even hide the cigaratte packages that are plastered with warnings. It is so hypocritical. Taking anything into your lungs is harmful. You don't have to be a scientist to realize that. So what are we doing to stop people from smoking weed? And don't give me that other stuff that you can get it in cookies. The fun is passing a joint around. Talk about unsanitary. Never in a million years would I have thought a party running on the cannabis issue would get elected.
They catered to the lowest common denominator.
If the Liberals get elected again I will move to another country. Perhaps Afghanistan where I can grow my own poppies.
Thanks for letting me vent. I enjoyed every minute of it.
Here again you insult all Canadians.
You haven't mentioned the social cost. You don't even realize hat the government is controlling you. It's easy to control a dumbed down populatin. It certainly doesn't make people smarter.
And again insult the entire country.
Yes we know and harmful. So why introduce more. Look at the social cost of alcohol. I'm addicted to gambling since they made it legal. Never bothered with it before. Get my drift?
Here again you introduce alcohol into the conversation blaming the government for your poor decisions instead of blaming yourself.
I have to laugh at you. Your addiction to marijuana has made you loquacious. You just can't seem to stop talking. Either that or you were inoculated with a gramaphone needle.
Now let me explain. Until something is legal a lot of people (unlike you) don't like to break the law to try something.
So when they make pot legal people who haven't tried it before will and some will get addicted.
And it's the same with gambling. Until it was legal gambling was not a forum of entertainment for the majority of the population and many became addicted with financial horrors to their lives.
And it will be the same with marijuana.
And we already know about alcohol. The newspaper is loaded with AA meeting notices.
If you think marijuana is harmless and something to be celebrated you are ignoring the social costs.
Canada 2nd in the world joining a third world country.
Here is where you insult me once more and once again bring alcohol into the conversation. Once again blaming the government for your bad choices. Now you are comparing Canada to third world countries. :shrug:
You still don't get it. Before it was legal people didn't want to break the law. When it became legal people tried it and got hooked. That applies to everything including gambling and pot and liquor.
Has it helped or hindered development? Why isn't it legal for minors?
Your lack of impulse control allowed yourself to use it illegally.
Once again you insult me.
CBD OIl has a negative effect on the liver. According to you Keesha there are no side effects at all to pot and all it's products.You are living in a fantasy world probably from the effects of long term use of cannabis and all the related products.
Here you make false claims about me that weren’t made. I did mention side effects of marijuana. Once again, you’d have to read some.
Well there are some of us still left that refuse to be dumbed down by the use of drugs.
You welcome it with both arms.
From your link.
But the bank also warned that this growth might be an accounting illusion. They warned that some of the cannabis-related trade already happened in the economy, but was never officially recorded in measure of output. Statistics Canada only included “licensed and unlicensed cannabis activity” in their economic calculations after marijuana was legalized, so more time is needed to find out just how much marijuana legalization will benefit the country’s economy.
For medical marijuana I have no problem. If you are on your way out of this world take whatever you want. What difference does it make?
And again insult all Canadians.
To date I have not read any scientific papers or anything else indicating that marijuana makes you smarter. So in the absence or any evidence claiming it makes you smarter any mind altering substance is going to make you dumber. I don't need a link for everything I believe in. Links are easy to come by supporting your point of view. If you want to just trade websites be my guest. If you want to debate a topic and use common sense and observation then welcome aboard.
Yep I am discrediting my fellow Canadian especially our Prime Minister. Canada was doing perfectly fine before his short pants theories came into effect merely to get elected.
Another insult to Canadians. I’d like to point out that alcohol is a mind altering drug.
I am being fair. And your claim that you don't personally insult me is not accurate.
This is one of your comments "concludes to nothing but rambling so I find it quite ironic that you’d use some fancy word, which you probably never use, for rambling but that’s ALL you do here. "
There are other 'shots' that you take. It's called shooting the messenger.
No I didn’t insult you. I said you used a fancy word for rambling or talking too much. That’s not an insult.
What other apparent shots ( insults ) have I made because I have been through this thread with a fine tooth comb and have yet to find any?
Well now. It was obvious to me if not to you that the poster was obviously in favor of legalization.
I am perfectly entitled to comment on another posters comments. You are being unfair calling it belittling.
No it wasn’t obvious to me nor was I being unfair.
This is a common tactic, comparing one vice to another. One does not affect the other unless they combine it. Banning alcohol will not change the statistics for marijuana and banning marijuana will not change the statistics for alcohol. So saying one is not as bad as the other it sort of clutching at straws. You also get that kind of argument comparing vehicle deaths with the comment 'so we should ban cars".
You brought alcohol into the conversation and I never said once that one was as bad as the other. Please read carefully or at least read.
Yes! We clarified that a few times
Nope just correcting your one sided comment about alcohol being a drug like pot isn't.
Untrue. I stated that they are BOTH drugs with side effects. You are the one who is one sided saying pot is a drug yet completely leave out the fact that so is alcohol
Keesha. All you had to do was answer yes or no. Instead you go on a tirade. So I will ask it again a theoretical question. Should pregnant women smoke marijuana. Yes or No?
Here you hassle me about a question that is totally irrelevant
In your opinion anything that is against your opinion is ridiculous.
And I wasn't asking a question. I was replying to your claim that it got suddenly into the conversation. It didn't.
Another personal attack
Sorry you have no room to talk. You have made many personal attacks and I have stuck to the topic. And if you are done as you claim. I'm looking forward to it.
Many personal attacks?
Really ? Please show me ONE in this entire conversation?
I have pointed yours out along with how you went off topic.
Once again I’ll ask you to please refrain from criticizing me personally.
I have participated in this conversation with as much respect and consideration to ALL posters and wish you would do the same.
