Canada Legalizes Marijuana Nationwide

Camper6 said:
Source Globe and Mail

“With oral-fluid screening, there are some fundamental problems with it,” said Superintendent Scott Baptist, Toronto Police traffic services district commander and co-chair of the Ontario Association of Chiefs of Police traffic-safety committee. “All it’s going to do is confirm that there’s THC in the saliva, that’s it – it doesn’t give an indication of the level of impairment.”
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So what? It has yet to be perfected.
Still over 3 MILLION KILLED each year globally from the drug called alcohol.

Note: Im not criticizing anyone who drinks. I’m using this statistics for debating purposes only.
 

Camper6 said:
Well now. It was obvious to me if not to you that the poster was obviously in favor of legalization.

I am perfectly entitled to comment on another posters comments. You are being unfair calling it belittling.
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So what if he is. What difference does that make to the end results?
 
Keesha said:
So what? It has yet to be perfected.
Still over 3 MILLION KILLED each year globally from the drug called alcohol.

Note: Im not criticizing anyone who drinks. I’m using this statistics for debating purposes only.
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This is a common tactic, comparing one vice to another. One does not affect the other unless they combine it. Banning alcohol will not change the statistics for marijuana and banning marijuana will not change the statistics for alcohol. So saying one is not as bad as the other it sort of clutching at straws. You also get that kind of argument comparing vehicle deaths with the comment 'so we should ban cars".



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Camper6 said:
This is a common tactic, comparing one vice to another. One does not affect the other unless they combine it. Banning alcohol will not change the statistics for marijuana and banning marijuana will not change the statistics for alcohol. So saying one is not as bad as the other it sort of clutching at straws. You also get that kind of argument comparing vehicle deaths with the comment 'so we should ban cars".
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I’m not saying they should ban either of these drugs.
I was stating the statistics

I’m not saying one is better than the other nor am I saying that either need to be banned. You are !
I’m saying that one of these drugs is well known throughout the world for causing deaths while the other drug doesn’t
 
Keesha said:
Why are you asking me questions that have nothing to do with the topic.
How did pregnancy suddenly get into this conversation ? :shrug:
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Besides, there are a host of things one might not choose to ingest while pregnant, including the majority of over the counter pain meds, and even some familiar herbs. At some point, a person must make choices for themselves re what to put in their body.
 
Keesha said:
Why are you asking me questions that have nothing to do with the topic.
How did pregnancy suddenly get into this conversation ? :shrug:
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It was asked before and not by me so it didn't 'suddenly' get into this conversation. I has all to do with the safety factor in case you are interested instead of sidestepping the issue.
 
Keesha said:
I’m not saying they should ban either of these drugs.
I was stating the statistics

I’m not saying one is better than the other nor am I saying that either need to be banned. You are !
I’m saying that one of these drugs is well known throughout the world for causing deaths while the other drug doesn’t
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You are getting off the track. Show me one post of mine that said anything about being banned. That would be stupid. It's already on the shelves.

You have no idea if marijuana use in the long run will cause deaths or illness or has already caused death or illness. Once again one does not offset the other.
 
Camper6 said:
It was asked before and not by me so it didn't 'suddenly' get into this conversation. I has all to do with the safety factor in case you are interested instead of sidestepping the issue.
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This question is about as ridiculous as me asking if you would smoke it while pregnant :waiting:
 
Camper6 said:
This is a common tactic, comparing one vice to another. One does not affect the other unless they combine it. Banning alcohol will not change the statistics for marijuana and banning marijuana will not change the statistics for alcohol. So saying one is not as bad as the other it sort of clutching at straws. You also get that kind of argument comparing vehicle deaths with the comment 'so we should ban cars".
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Camper6 said:
You are getting off the track. Show me one post of mine that said anything about being banned. That would be stupid. It's already on the shelves.

You have no idea if marijuana use in the long run will cause deaths or illness or has already caused death or illness. Once again one does not offset the other.
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Top post: banning alcohol will not change the statistics for marijuana and banning marijuana will not change the statistics for alcohol.

Ok let’s go with that.

3 million people die every year from alcohol related incidents and it’s a DRUG !
 
Shalimar said:
Besides, there are a host of things one might not choose to ingest while pregnant, including the majority of over the counter pain meds, and even some familiar herbs. At some point, a person must make choices for themselves re what to put in their body.
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How interesting. Making a choice for yourself is one thing. Making a choice for an unborn baby is another.

It's a poor choice if you smoke or drink or use pot while pregnant. There's no other word for it.
 
Keesha said:
This question is about as ridiculous as me asking if you would smoke it while pregnant :waiting:
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Are you serious? If you asked me that question and I was female I would say no. Definitely not.

I never even smoked cigarettes. I knew it was harmful when I was only 12 years of age. And now I am an old man close to 90 without any lung problems.
 
Camper6 said:
Are you serious? If you asked me that question and I was female I would say no. Definitely not.
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and I’m a 59 year old woman so I think it’s VERY fair to say. I’m not pregnant nor will I ever get pregnant so the question is pointless. It’s just a silly distraction on your part to try and throw me off but it doesn’t.

Next?
 
Keesha said:
and I’m a 59 year old woman so I think it’s VERY fair to say. I’m not pregnant nor will I ever get pregnant so the question is pointless. It’s just a silly distraction on your part to try and throw me off but it doesn’t.

Next?
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Keesha. All you had to do was answer yes or no. Instead you go on a tirade. So I will ask it again a theoretical question.

Should pregnant women smoke marijuana. Yes or No?
 
Keesha said:
Let’s first clearly define some things


Alcohol is a drug.


It’s classified as an anti depressant that slows down vital functions resulting in slurred speech, unsteady movement, disturbed perceptions and inability to react quickly.
It reduces a persons ability to think rationally and distorts judgment .


Alcohol kills 3 million a year globally
In Canada approximately 4 people are killed due to alcoholic incidents and approximately 90,000 people are hospitalized each year for the same.


You have stated that you have problems with alcohol and gambling. You state that you are addicted and that it’s a problem in your life. YOU state that about yourself. I didn’t.

Studies done on the effects of smoking marijuana done at the National Institute of Drug Abuse shows that there is no conclusive evidence that suggests that it causes lung cancer. It thought to ease pain and inflammation as well as control spasms and seizures. It triggers the brain to release more dopamine , heightens your sense of perception as well as the perception of time. It affects the hippocampus which can impair judgment and short term memory.


It can impair your sense of balance and slows down reaction time. It later increases appetite and causes drowsiness. Addiction is rare but possible.

Sooo we both use drugs that slow down the mind.
One of them has a historical record of killing people. The other doesn’t.
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Camper6 said:
Well there are some of us still left that refuse to be dumbed down by the use of drugs.

You welcome it with both arms.

From your link.
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Camper6 said:
Nope just correcting your one sided comment about alcohol being a drug like pot isn't.
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Wrong again. YOU were the one who claimed that there are some who refuse to be dumbed down by the use of drugs yet you use alcohol and have problems gambling with it

I pointed out that alcohol is a drug also. My last post I didn’t add cannabis statistic but here you go camper. Just for you.

Statistics show that the drug alcohol kills 3 million a year whereas the drug marijuana kills NONE.

So you are recycling the questions we have already been through and on that note .
Im done.
 
Keesha said:
Pregnant women shouldn’t smoke anything but , again, it has nothing to do with the conversation.
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I thought you were done but you finally answered one question without skirting around it. It has plenty to do with the conversation. It's one of the cautions presented by the government on legalizing marijuana.

Why are you introducing alcohol? It has nothing to do with conversation.

I don't believe marijuana doesn't kill none.

[h=1]Drug-impaired driving[/h]Drugs can impair your ability to drive safely and increase the risk of getting into a collision. In fact, cannabis increases your chance of a car accident Footnote1. The percentage of Canadian drivers killed in vehicle crashes who test positive for drugs (40%) now actually exceeds the numbers who test positive for alcohol (33%) Footnote2.

Source: Government of Canada

 

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