Christmas and the politically correct

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Well it's that season to be jolly, apparently, and it's only the middle of November. The malls are playing Christmas...I'm sorry.....HOLIDAY songs, Santa Claus is there and Christmas...oops....HOLIDAY cheer is all about. I heard Frosty the Snowman playing and it occurred to me that the feminists and/or the politically correct storm troopers must have missed it. I assume, when they do, they will be demanding that the song be banned as it's sexist. Frosty the snowperson is what it will be called from now on....Kinda loses something there.

AND then there's the song " Baby it's cold outside" which, according to the world of feminists and other strange beings from a planet far away, encourages male domination on the poor innocent females who, during a snowstorm, are being encouraged to spend the night with the predatory male. As if the females don't have a mind of their own. If the guy was a gentleman, of course, he'd drive her home. Not sure how to fit in the lyrics into that song.

Then there's the term SNOWMAN. Last year the kid down the street built his very own snowman. The young college attending girl who lives next door to him had a nervous breakdown when the kid referred to his creation as a snowman. She told him it was a SNOWPERSON. He said it was a SNOWMAN. They don't talk to each other anymore and the parents of both are now enemies. Holiday cheer indeed.

Well, when the real CHRISTMAS season starts.....I'm thinking December 10th or so...….I'll be wishing everyone I meet a very Merry Christmas. I'm assuming the college attending girl and her parents won't be talking to me either after that greeting.....
 

What poor innocent females are you talking about? :rolleyes:

I get the impression that you don’t really like the Christmas season. :laugh:

Well Merry Christmas anyway. :grin:
 
I say Merry Christmas to everyone after Thanksgiving. I don't care if its PC to anybody or not. Its me and they can deal with it as they wish. They will be best served by not questioning me about it!! They will not like my replies!!
 

I'm not religious but I was raised Catholic as a child. We always said Merry Christmas around the holidays, and I still do when appropriate. Never been a 'feminist', but I'm absolutely for equal rights and equal pay for women, providing they're doing the exact job as the men. I've been a lead man and union shop steward when I was working, that's how I was referred to and never gave it a second thought. I don't care for all the early holiday songs and decorations in the stores though, you can see Christmas stuff before Halloween in some places. :rolleyes:
 
Last year, when I was visiting in conservative Texas, I smiled to see a friendly Happy Holidays sign in front of the state capital.

Happy Holidays to all on this bb, no matter which holiday(s) they celebrate!
 
Well...wonder what the college girl would say to someone my age. If she said it was a snowperson, I would have gone back and made it anatomically correct and said. "nope, snowman!"
 
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I say Merry Christmas and truly mean it no matter who you are or what you believe.

"Celebrating Christmas without Christ is like celebrating George Washington's birthday without mentioning the first president." - James N. Watkins
 
Meh... This complaint surfaces every year.

For the record, Christmas is a season of 12 days, beginning on December 25. Next Monday, December 1, the season of Advent begins. It is a bit premature to wish everyone Merry Christmas just yet but why fuss about it. If you said Happy Advent you would just confuse everyone.

Advent is a time of preparation for the celebration of the birth of Jesus and it is meant to be a happy time. It is not meant to be a time of bickering over how we employ the English language. Advent and Christmas are both seasons of goodwill to our friends, family and neighbours. House cleaning, decorations, cooking, hospitality and giving presents are all traditional ways we celebrate. In the season of joy, music is to be expected.

Those who find Happy Holidays offensive should simply make a point of wishing people Happy Christmas, Happy Hannukkah, Happy Eid, Happy Divali and so on on the appropriate dates. I do say Happy Eid to Muslim women during that time. I always get a big smile in return.
 
"Celebrating Christmas without Christ is like celebrating George Washington's birthday without mentioning the first president." - James N. Watkins
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But the majority of Americans celebrate Christmas "without Christ," unless you count singing Christmas carols, exchanging gifts, decorating your home in a way that would have meant nothing to Jesus (not too many evergreen trees and tinsel in the ancient Israeli desert). So, according to your logic, perhaps "Merry Christmas" should be confined only to those who celebrate it as a religious holiday. What about the rest of the country? Are they terrible people for wanting to celebrate a more secular holiday season? Or should everyone be forced to practice Christianity? Holier-than-thou attitudes have never succeeded in forcing people to celebrate any particular religion; they just irritate people, or worse.

I think "Happy Holidays" covers it all. It includes Christmas, nobody is leaving it out. But it also includes other holidays, and other ways of celebrating Christmas. And when you come down to it, that's a lot more in the "Christmas spirit."
 
Just be glad you didn't live in the colonies in the 1600's:

"On Christmas Day, 1621, Plymouth Governor William Bradford came across a group of merrymakers playing “stoole-ball”—a sort of colonial version of baseball—and demanded the lot of them get back to work. Eventually, in 1659, the General Court of the Massachusetts Bay Colony passed a law prohibiting Christmas celebration altogether. It stated that in order to prevent “disorders … to the great dishonor of God and offense of others,” anyone found celebrating the holiday “either by forbearing of labor, feasting, or any other way,” would be fined five shillings."

Apparently, back then, if you celebrated Christmas at all you were supposed to spend the day in solemn and sober reflections on your sins. Jeez, if I did that, I'd have to spend the entire 12 days of Christmas to get them all "reflected on". I'd barely get it done and it'd be time to start all over again.

I like Christmas these days a lot better, even with the incessant Hallmark movies and the mall music.
 
When wishing someone good cheer, I do so with the hope and intention that they will enjoy and celebrate THEIR holiday. Not mine. Theirs.

That's why I say "Happy Holidays!" unless I know for sure that they are celebrating Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanza or something else - in which case I may use a more specific term.

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StarSong said:
When wishing someone good cheer, I do so with the hope and intention that they will enjoy and celebrate THEIR holiday. Not mine. Theirs.

That's why I say "Happy Holidays!" unless I know for sure that they are celebrating Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanza or something else - in which case I may use a more specific term.
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Great thought, SS! I'll keep that in mind.
 
terry123 said:
I say Merry Christmas to everyone after Thanksgiving. I don't care if its PC to anybody or not. Its me and they can deal with it as they wish. They will be best served by not questioning me about it!! They will not like my replies!!
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Bravo Terry! I couldn't have stated my own thoughts better myself!
 
Terry, in answer to your threat, I wish you a holy Ramadan!

And if you question me about it, you will not like my replies.

(Sigh, there is nothing like a religious true believer. No matter what the religion.)
 
it seems like when they play christmas carols people are more friendly---they say good morning etc and hold the door for you instead of letting it slam on you---i just think people are in a better mood when christmas music is playing
 
Sunny said:
Terry, in answer to your threat, I wish you a holy Ramadan!

And if you question me about it, you will not like my replies.

(Sigh, there is nothing like a religious true believer. No matter what the religion.)
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Why the "sigh" and sarcasm? What's wrong with being a religious true believer?
 
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