Civil Rights Law Protects Gay and Transgender Workers, Supreme Court Rules

You own a business. You decide that employee X has to marry employee Y or both get fired. So according to some, a business owner has the right to do whatever he wishes with his employees.
Just because someone owns a business does not mean that he can discriminate to his heart's content. His bigotry, and hate is no longer allowed in the United States Of America.
 

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Sunny said:
This kind of discrimination goes way back in this country. In the 19th century, Irish immigrants trying to get work were met with signs saying, "No Irish need apply." And it seems that unfortunately, that mindset still exists.
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Frankly, if a stand alone business owner does not wish to hire Irish ? There is not one thing wrong with that. His/her business , his/her choice ..... And my mother was absolute Irish BTW.
 
MarciKS said:
well because for one thing what if the tables were turned? what if you wanted to work in a clothing store and when they found out you were married to a man they decided to fire you because they prefer people in same sex marriages. so now you have no job. wouldn't that make you just a little mad? especially given how difficult getting a job can be? as long as they are doing their job and doing it well, who cares who they love? when do business owners get to decide who we can or can not love? that they have no right to do.
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They don't get to decide who a person loves ..... but they should get to decide who they hire/fire.
 

Butterfly said:
I don't really see how it is any of the employer's (or anybody else's) business who we love, marry or cohabit with, or even have wild and crazy one-nighters with. The employer is employing us to do a job, period.
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Exactly .... and he/she should have the complete & absolute right to hire whom they choose.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
You own a business. You decide that employee X has to marry employee Y or both get fired. So according to some, a business owner has the right to do whatever he wishes with his employees.
Just because someone owns a business does not mean that he can discriminate to his heart's content. His bigotry, and hate is no longer allowed in the United States Of America.
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No longer allowed ? Who are you to tell me, or anyone else, who they should like , do like, or do not like ?
 
They don't have to hire people with disabilities either but, if they don't hire these people for those reasons and those alone then they are basically saying they don't have the right to work because there's something wrong with them. That goes against civil rights IMO.
 
Gaer said:
I agree with RGP completely! I applaud his unwavering judgement. The rights of the individual must always be upheld! Why should anyone be able to tell a person how to run his own business?
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It wasn't so long ago that women bumped their heads against a much, much lower glass ceiling. Perhaps all those employers should have been legally permitted to pay women 50% of men's wages? Or to refuse to hire women at all? Or to only hire very young women and terminate them when they looked less like Barbie Dolls?

We owned a small business for over 40 years. Trust me, everyone weighs in on how businesses must be run including federal, state and local governments, tax authorities, health and safety departments, landlords, your vendors and your employees. Plus your customers, of course.

Displease any one of those sectors and you'll be out of business in nothing flat.
 
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No longer allowed ? Who are you to tell me?
The Supreme Court just did.
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And if I owned a business , I would right now, set in place a plan of action to sell my business, for the most money possible. And close the doors . Now no one there has a job. I wish the new owner luck.
 
rgp said:
And if I owned a business , I would right now, set in place a plan of action to sell my business, for the most money possible. And close the doors . Now no one there has a job. I wish the new owner luck.
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Imaginary situations always work out well, don't they? Hypothetical businesses are invariably highly profitable and fetch top dollar when the owners decide to cash out. Of course, the pretend business collapses without the tender, unerring guidance of the founders - who are now laughing all the way to the bank with the deep satisfaction of knowing they were not only right all along, but irreplaceable as well.

Things go very differently in the real world of owning a business.
 
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StarSong said:
Imaginary situations always work out well, don't they? Hypothetical businesses are invariably highly profitable and fetch top dollar when the owners decide to cash out. Of course, the pretend business collapses without the tender, unerring guidance of the founders - who are now laughing all the way to the bank with the deep satisfaction of knowing they were not only right all along, but irreplaceable as well.

Things go very differently in the real world of owning a business.
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You can call it imaginary if you choose. But that would be, what i would do.

No one is going to tell me how to operate my business.

I can sell out, get a job [if needed] and avoid all the headaches .
 
All I can say is that owning a successful, profitable business is a lot like successfully raising a happy, healthy child who contributes to society. It's a whole lot simpler from the outside looking in.

To move back to the original topic of this post, I applaud the Supreme Court decision.

In the early 1940s, my parents were a "mixed marriage" - Roman Catholic and Lutheran. Quite a scandal among many of the relatives. Marrying across faiths no longer raises eyebrows.

Interracial couples were an oddity in the 1960s, but thanks to the blessing of integrated schools and neighborhoods, they've become commonplace and well accepted.

In many parts of the country including mine, same sex couples have become such a familiar sight that most people barely notice two men or two women holding hands.

Would that transgenders soon feel the same level of acceptance.

The times they are a changin'.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. Preamble to the Declaration of Independence
 
StarSong said:
All I can say is that owning a successful, profitable business is a lot like successfully raising a happy, healthy child who contributes to society. It's a whole lot simpler from the outside looking in.

To move back to the original topic of this post, I applaud the Supreme Court decision.

In the early 1940s, my parents were a "mixed marriage" - Roman Catholic and Lutheran. Quite a scandal among many of the relatives. Marrying across faiths no longer raises eyebrows.

Interracial couples were an oddity in the 1960s, but thanks to the blessing of integrated schools and neighborhoods, they've become commonplace and well accepted.

In many parts of the country including mine, same sex couples have become such a familiar sight that most people barely notice two men or two women holding hands.

Would that transgenders soon feel the same level of acceptance.

The times they are a changin'.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. Preamble to the Declaration of Independence
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Starsong, I love and respect that phrase and our Constitution as do most Americans but we must remember that it was written BY and FOR a small group of male, Caucasian, Protestants of British descent.

Since its inception, all Americans of another gender, race, skin color, religion or ethnicity have had to fight for that equality and those same rights that those men claimed for themselves.

Just saying'.
 
gennie said:
Starsong, I love and respect that phrase and our Constitution as do most Americans but we must remember that it was written BY and FOR a small group of male, Caucasian, Protestants of British descent.

Since its inception, all Americans of another gender, race, skin color, religion or ethnicity have had to fight for that equality and those same rights that those men claimed for themselves.

Just saying'.
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You're absolutely correct. My point was that the definition has broadened to include men, women & children of all races and gender/sexual identity.
 
Butterfly said:
Why are you so fearful of hiring LGBTQ workers? Is isn't catching, after all.
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I never said a thing regarding being fearful of anyone/anything .......... What i did say is, no one is going to tell me how to run my business, I will hire & fire whom I choose.
 

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