Countdown to the Russian invasion of Ukraine

I often wonder if we (the U.S.) is not underestimating Putin. Some of our politicians believe he is ill. If that’s the case, I would consider him to be more dangerous. Just like a wounded animal, he is more likely to become an even tougher adversary. Putin has already talked about the use of nuclear weapons to end the war, so we at least know it’s on his mind. He cannot lose this war, otherwise, he will be ousted from power probably in a shameful manner, which to him would be unacceptable.

Late yesterday, he told Poland and Bulgaria that he would only sell them gas, if they paid In Roubles. Daytime temps are now above 50 degrees in Poland for the most part, but at nighttime, the temps slip to around freezing, so heat will be needed. They also need gas for industry. This is another form of ransom by Putin to get money to pay for his war.

Russia is just not in a good position right now, suffering so many casualty losses of their Army. If he feels desperate, like any animal, it’s hard to say what he may resort to. This all comes down to the fact that he underestimated Ukraine. However, if it weren’t for the U.S. sending as much aid as we have, who is to say what their position or condition would be. I think we will know the outcome within the next 30-60 days. Regardless of a win or loss, many Ukraines are suffering. Some don’t even have housing.

A lot of uncertainty.
 

Timewise 60+ said:
dseag2...."Come on man!" I used no names, no political parties, nothing political here! You want "political" look at JimBob1952 response to my post...
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I didn't think my response was particularly political. With that said, I admit I run afoul of the moderators here all the time, so I'm probably wrong. My wife says she wants the inscription on my tombstone to read: "Often wrong, but never in doubt."
 
JimBob1952...we share the same challenge! You are a good sport for sure, and you have a very smart wife...
 

Guaranteed mutual destruction. What a waste. Just as predicted in so many sci-fi flics. But this isn't the movies. In my opinion, certain leaders should have been removed long before the atrocities began. We saw the build-up. We knew what was coming. Lesson that should be learned is that you can not negotiate with mad men.
 
Timewise 60+ said:
hollydolly...unfortunately, with things being what they are in Washington DC now, I fear that one cannot 'depend' on our help in a war situation. We lack intestinal fortitude by our leadership...! Don't worry through, numbers of soldiers or people really does not count in a nuclear war.
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I doubt if the citizens of the U.S. would stand for sending troops to Ukraine. All we can give them are weapons and money and even the money we are giving them is not coming from the treasury, but is being printed, which translates into more debt. As a nation, we are broke and now facing a possible recession.
 
Breaking News :...

Vladimir Putin has vowed to use nuclear weapons against any country that dares to 'interfere' with Russia's war in Ukraine in his latest chilling threat to the West.

The despot, addressing legislators in St Petersburg today, said his response to anyone who 'threatens' Russia will be 'lightning-fast' and deadly.

'If someone intends to interfere in what is going on from the outside they must know that constitutes an unacceptable strategic threat to Russia. They must know that our response to counter strikes will be lightning fast. Fast,' he said.

'We have all the weapons we need for this. No one else can brag about these weapons, and we won’t brag about them. But we will use them.'

Though Putin did not mention nuclear weapons directly, he was almost certainly referring to Russia's new Sarmat 2 nuclear missile which was tested for the first time just days ago and that he boasted is unlike any other weapon in the world.

Click here for the story and Video of Putin making his speech..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10759651/Ukraine-war-Putin-suggest-use-nukes-necessary.html
 
Pepper said:
If Le Pen wins in France, everything will be different, for the worse, for all of Europe, IMO. Can't say anymore, re: ban on Political discussions.
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I can't imagine. I dislike politics but have to keep abreast of at least the basics (sigh :sneaky:). However, I'm so glad she didn't win!

@JonSR77 I'm sure New York would be one of the main targets of nukes. Because of our residential proximity, we'd be toast for sure if that were to happen. :eek:
@oldman "If nukes would be used, we would all be vaporized or die from radiation poisoning. Would a new world begin? I don’t know."
I'm sure they wouldn't stop at New York...so unfortunately you'd be right. 😪
 
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European gas prices surged 24 percent today after Russian energy giant Gazprom halted gas supplies to Poland and Bulgaria for failing to pay for its gas in roubles, as President Vladimir Putin ordered last month.

The move is the Kremlin's toughest response yet to crippling Western sanctions imposed over Moscow's brutal on-going invasion of Ukraine, that have sent the Russian economy - and the value of the rouble - into a nosedive.

Moscow said that the 'unfriendly' countries had only themselves to blame, but denied the move was blackmail.

'The need for a new payment method was a result of unprecedented unfriendly steps in the economic sphere and the financial sector, which were taken against us by unfriendly countries,' Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Wednesday. He warned that other European customers may see the taps turned off if they refuse to pay for gas in roubles by the time payment is due.

Peskov argued that refusing to switch to roubles reflects a Western desire to 'punish Russia at any cost to the detriment of their own consumers, taxpayers and producers.'

He rejected the EU's description of the Russian move to halt supplies to Bulgaria and Poland starting Wednesday as blackmail, insisting that 'Russia has remained a reliable supplier of energy resources' and stuck to its contractual obligations. Peskov argued that the demand for payment in roubles is purely technical and doesn't change price or other contract conditions for consumers.

In response to Russia's decision, the UK warned Putin that Russia's move will only add to its status as an economic and political pariah, while Poland, Bulgaria the EU and Ukraine all accused Moscow of blackmailing the two countries, which said they will end their dependencies on Russian gas.

European Union Commission President Ursula von der Leyen also called the move 'yet another attempt by Russia to use gas as an instrument of blackmail. This is unjustified and unacceptable.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...land-toughest-response-Western-sanctions.html
 
Has anyone ever seen on the Smithsonian Channel what happened to the people who were nearby where the A-bomb exploded in Hiroshima during WWII? If you were standing within feet where the bomb exploded, all that would be left is perhaps a few bones.
 
oldman said:
Has anyone ever seen on the Smithsonian Channel what happened to the people who were nearby where the A-bomb exploded in Hiroshima during WWII? If you were standing within feet where the bomb exploded, all that would be left is perhaps a few bones.
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I've certainly seen many documentaries about it..over the years
 
hollydolly said:
I've certainly seen many documentaries about it..over the years
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If anyone is standing anywhere near the explosion, the heat is so great that it actually all but disintegrates the body at about 180,000 degrees. About the only thing that would be left standing is perhaps a few bones.
 
Hopefully, Australia's looming Election will distract SCOMO from the situation, but I very much doubt it.
Add to that China's interest in the Solomon Islands and the threat of war is barking at our backdoor.

In all honesty though, how does one prepare for Nukes?
 
Tish said:
Hopefully, Australia's looming Election will distract SCOMO from the situation, but I very much doubt it.
Add to that China's interest in the Solomon Islands and the threat of war is barking at our backdoor.

In all honesty though, how does one prepare for Nukes?
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Get a ticket to the South Pole. According to many scientists, geologists, oceanographers and anyone else that has studied this question, they say the South Pole is the safest place to be if a nuclear war should break out. I don’t know offhand of any airlines that fly to Antarctica.
 
oldman said:
Get a ticket to the South Pole. According to many scientists, geologists, oceanographers and anyone else that has studied this question, they say the South Pole is the safest place to be if a nuclear war should break out. I don’t know offhand of any airlines that fly to Antarctica.
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I think you have to fly into Ushuaia, Argentina and take a ship to the Antarctic so that's one's out! :ROFLMAO:
 
Putin`s threat to wipe Britain off the map, by sending a Nuclear missile with 15 warheads, if they continue to arm Ukraine?, and then of course Britain with all of its nuclear Submarines (Everywhere) would retaliate. We now have a nuclear winter and the end of civilization as we know it!
Probably Cockroaches and Ants would survive, but not much else, comforting isn't it?
 
kburra said:
Putin`s threat to wipe Britain off the map, by sending a Nuclear missile with 15 warheads, if they continue to arm Ukraine?, and then of course Britain with all of its nuclear Submarines (Everywhere) would retaliate. We now have a nuclear winter and the end of civilization as we know it!
Probably Cockroaches and Ants would survive, but not much else, comforting isn't it?
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This is what concerns me the most. Putin himself is bad enough. But Putin with mental issues is almost terrifying.
 

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