Dating: Let's be Honest
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There are many "crux of the matter" issues in society that are overlooked by way of blame-shifting but this isn't one of them. If you think the story in the video is about one accepting oneself than you didn't watch the video with open ears or mind. Maybe you ought to watch the video again. Note also that in quoting myself I underlined and bold texted the key word to help. The video depicts a common reality that is countered by putting the shoe on the other's foot. His comment, "I want to see if the interior matches the paint job" is magnificent! It says so much more than anyone could ever articulate.
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I don't take circular logic seriously. You'll have to apply a bit more earnestness in your argument if you want to make a point.
This makes absolutely NO SENSE whatsoever. It could be that you are not clear on what the phrase "in practice" means.
That's being a nice person. Do you treat everyone with kindness even a woman who gets in bad mood in the car? H0W WOUld you handle that? Right now l'm tense and unhappy because Microsoft Edge kidapped my computer and I am having a terrible time figuring out how to run this thing as l usually don't have this problem. l might be edgy at dinner.
And that is ... what it is. Even worse (thinks I) is the custom of leading a women through doors by holding/nudging them by the elbow.
OneEyedDiva
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I've always thought that women who discourage a man from being gentlemanly (such as opening the car door or hold a door open) to be silly. It's like they take feminism too far. I will accept a courtesy whether it be from a man or woman. And for me, if I were dating a man who treated me in a gentlemanly manner, that would be a feather in his cap. Heck...I've been a "gentlewoman" and held the door open for men who were about to enter. The gestures were always appreciated.
I hold the door open behind me (man or woman) for anyone who is coming after. I let them go first only if they are elderly, handicapped, or pregnant. I do make a distinction for elderly women if I am feeling whimisical and say, "Ladies first!" and even sometimes tip my hat but I ONLY do those things to see if I can get them to smile. I feel no obligation to anything and if they (man or woman) display a pushy attitude then they can screw themselves and have the door slam in their face for all I care. That also applies to the second door if they haven't thanked me for holding open the first one.
No, you do not. You cleary do not.
One thing that seems clear to me is that you both interpret in practice differently.
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To which the answer ought to be "Can you clean?"
I cannot speak for the motivation of Tazx's_better_half but I think it explains your tunnel-visioned mindset and inability to understand the subject clearly. I can sympathize with your heartfelt trust in the definition of "feminism", mainly because the lofty definition promises something good. But unfortunately "Feminism" has parted from what might have been a worthy cause.
When people use the term "gay" we no longer assume it has something to with joy & a festive mood. The reason for that is because it has been re-coined. Simple. It's not difficult to understand.
Then we have the term "Democracy". We all should know its definition and we can look it up in the dictionary if we are unsure. In a sense, it too has been re-coined (re-valued would be a better description) by the victims who have suffered the sword's blade of those who are not democratic at all but maintain that they are. So, "in practice" democracy means something entirely different than it does for those who wield it by force and deception. There are many examples but most of them border on political chicanery so I'll resist naming them.
Anyway - here we are. FEMINISM. "Its practice" does not represent the spirit of "equal rights" nor does it reflect the well-meaning definition of it. I guess that also brings us back to the meaning of "practice" and "in practice", huh? I stand proud to say that "equal rights" and "women’s' rights" are wonderful endeavours. Feminism however is nasty business. It encourages the disconnect between men and women rather than helping to find solid, common ground in order for us to understand and appreciate one another on a higher level.
Here below is a good example on how to sabotage efforts towards equality but to instead perpetuate the gender disconnect even further:
A feminist point of view? An equal rights point of view? Think about it before you respond.
Lawrence00
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Yes, it's not a competition. Helping someone with their coat, pouring a cup of coffee, picking up the newspaper, holding the umbrella...
With a friendly, sympathetic introduction like that it ought to be irresistible for you to want to make friends with me.
That's OK. I can see that we are going to be good friends anyway!
You mean you've lined up an assortment of insults to hurl at me just because you "disagree"? Hmmm
I guess the gender disconnect encouraged by Feminist indocrination is even more hostile than I thought. Maybe I was wrong about us becoming good friends? In fact, I am sure of it. Goodbye! 
Oldeagle66
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Dating......No.......for me it's quite simple. My peace of mind and finances are more important and valuable than any relationship.
Tazx's_better_half
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I couldn't have said it any betterI cannot speak for the motivation of Tazx's_better_half but I think it explains your tunnel-visioned mindset and inability to understand the subject clearly. I can sympathize with your heartfelt trust in the definition of "feminism", mainly because the lofty definition promises something good. But unfortunately "Feminism" has parted from what might have been a worthy cause.
When people use the term "gay" we no longer assume it has something to with joy & a festive mood. The reason for that is because it has been re-coined. Simple. It's not difficult to understand.
Then we have the term "Democracy". We all should know its definition and we can look it up in the dictionary if we are unsure. In a sense, it too has been re-coined (re-valued would be a better description) by the victims who have suffered the sword's blade of those who are not democratic at all but maintain that they are. So, "in practice" democracy means something entirely different than it does for those who wield it by force and deception. There are many examples but most of them border on political chicanery so I'll resist naming them.
Anyway - here we are. FEMINISM. "Its practice" does not represent the spirit of "equal rights" nor does it reflect the well-meaning definition of it. I guess that also brings us back to the meaning of "practice" and "in practice", huh? I stand proud to say that "equal rights" and "women’s' rights" are wonderful endeavours. Feminism however is nasty business. It encourages the disconnect between men and women rather than helping to find solid, common ground in order for us to understand and appreciate one another on a higher level.
Here below is a good example on how to sabotage efforts towards equality but to instead perpetuate the gender disconnect even further:
You mean you've lined up an assortment of insults to hurl at me just because you "disagree"? Hmmm
No, quite the reverse - I'm not bothering with personal insults and it isn't me being hostile
Bye.
I couldn't have said it any better
Tazx's_better_half
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Cheer up, it's Christmas