Dear God, another school shooting?

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Falcon said:
As I mentioned before about a different SlimeBall, THIS slimeball should be WATER BOARDED for EACH of his victims !

Maybe it will give some future slimeball to think twice about killing innocent people; Young or Old.
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Why not just display their severed heads on the school gates?

Seriously, isn't revenge part of the problem with these mass murders?
 

Maybe it's time for home schooling since nothing is being done to protect students in the U.S.
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That might have worked for Thomas Edison but is this the really the best way to educate young people for the complexities of the 21st century?

Time to face the problem - it's causes, what allows it to keep happening and what needs to be done, what sacrifices need to be made, to eliminate this social scourge.

After Parkland people said that it was not time to talk about this problem because grief was too raw. When will it be time ? Will every household have to have a child gunned down before it is time to start a serious national conversation ?
 
I've been saying this for years; There's a mental illness spreading among many of our young men and there's nothing we can do about it. It's an insanity- is it genetic, emotional? I don't know, but it seems to be epidemic now, It's almost like a Stephan King horror story!

Keeping guns away from these people doesn't restore their sanity. You still have a crazy person running around using weaker methods to kill, but they will still kill. It has to go back the cause.
 
True Chic, BUT there are some folks who don't really have the qualifications to teach every subject.

I'll betcha you know a few who would never qualify for YOUR kids.
 
There are times when it terrifies me to live in the US. I avoid crowds whenever possible because of the type of thoughts that pop up in my mind. Thoughts like, it's the week before Christmas and this Costco entrance/exit area is jammed to the max. If some guy (it's nearly always a guy) had an automatic assault-type weapon under his coat and started sweeping the crowd with bullets, what would I do? Where would I go? Would I lie on the ground and pretend to be dead? Try running? Hope to hide in Costco?

Being in fear is a terrible way to live, my friends. People should not have easy means to slaughter large numbers pf other humans in less than a minute. It's just not right.
 
Warrigal said:
Agree about the bullying but murderous revenge is not a universal response.
Who gave this kid a gun in the first place?
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Those guns were his fathers legal ownership guns. Maybe if his sons wild actions and ways of dressing were known by all, including his father, then maybe this day of killing would not have happened.

Interesting interview this day was information about the shooters way of dressing. He always wore a long coat, that could hide the weapons of his choice.

Dress codes for schools might be good thinking.
 
Warrigal said:
That might have worked for Thomas Edison but is this the really the best way to educate young people for the complexities of the 21st century?

Time to face the problem - it's causes, what allows it to keep happening and what needs to be done, what sacrifices need to be made, to eliminate this social scourge.

After Parkland people said that it was not time to talk about this problem because grief was too raw. When will it be time ? Will every household have to have a child gunned down before it is time to start a serious national conversation ?
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The talking does go on. For example one of the police protector types talked about the lack of police for every school. In Texas alone, he said their were thousands of schools to protect and police on every entrance would be just as large plus all other entrances would still be open and unprotected. His comments went on to a 'locked down' system being developed. All but a minimum number of doors would be locked. Accessible for emergency exit uses but coming in required permission through monitored entrances only.
 
Well, that is the solution I never thought of before - CHANGE THE DRESS CODE.
As well as transparent back packs the students will soon be wearing transparent outer garments for the safety of all.

Get real Bob, and stop making excuses that demonstrate that, like the politicians hoping to be re-elected, few people give a shit about the number of dead people, including slaughtered children.

Twenty-two school shootings this year.
How many deaths is that?
How many more before Christmas comes around again?
 
BobF said:
The talking does go on. For example one of the police protector types talked about the lack of police for every school. In Texas alone, he said their were thousands of schools to protect and police on every entrance would be just as large plus all other entrances would still be open and unprotected. His comments went on to a 'locked down' system being developed. All but a minimum number of doors would be locked. Accessible for emergency exit uses but coming in required permission through monitored entrances only.
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Another deflection. And unworkable. To catch a plane these days you need to be checking in at least two hours before takeoff. How long do you think it would take to screen a high school population of 1,200 students going through security?
 
RadishRose said:
Keeping guns away from these people doesn't restore their sanity. You still have a crazy person running around using weaker methods to kill, but they will still kill. It has to go back the cause.
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Radishrose you are spot on because it has much more to do with the killer than the weapon. These kids are over medicated and out of their minds and they have emotional problems that can't be solved with a pill or they're just haters. Don't listen to the "deflection" critics. You notice they eagerly appear out of nowhere when they hear of their FAVORITE news story another shooting in US while we mourn our losses. They don't show any sympathy for the dead but they are quick to shame us and our country and our friends here. They love to wag their fingers at the US from their perceived perch and their only agenda is extreme gun control like they have bowed down to where they live. BobF I say this to you too, don't be scolded by the eager outsiders. And starsong I'm not afraid at all to live in my country, if I was I'd move somewhere else like Mexico, Australia or maybe China. That's all I've got to say
 
Stormy, you'd move to Mexico? Talk about going from the frying pan to the fire. Canada would be on the top of my list if my kids were willing to relocate (and at least one is considering it because of the US gun violence - she's a teacher). Australia is also a good choice.

It has to do with the killer AND the weapons. The gun-worshiping culture in much of the US only adds to the equation. Some state things like, "If you want my gun you'll have to pry it from my cold dead hands." Really? Prizing the ability to wield deadly force over another human is more valued than one's own life? I could see someone saying that about their children, but about their weapons?
 
Warrigal said:
Sorry, RR, but I see that as a deflection. This problem has to be tackled head on. And boldly.
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Warrigal, I understand what you're saying but I believe the root to to be mental illness. I have no reason to want deflection of anything. I'll be glad to agree to disagree.... I guess it's like the which came first, the chicken or the egg. :)
 
RadishRose said:
I've been saying this for years; There's a mental illness spreading among many of our young men and there's nothing we can do about it. It's an insanity- is it genetic, emotional? I don't know, but it seems to be epidemic now, It's almost like a Stephan King horror story!

Keeping guns away from these people doesn't restore their sanity. You still have a crazy person running around using weaker methods to kill, but they will still kill. It has to go back the cause.
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I've wondered if it could be partly due to the internet.

When I was growing up we lived in a 'good neighborhood', we had to be old enough to drive in order to get to a 'bad neighborhood' and sample all it had to offer. Today kids can go to any neighborhood in the world and indulge in anything they fancy with the click of a mouse or the touch of a screen.

I believe that the anonymity offered by the internet has emboldened some folks and allowed their anti-social behaviors to fester until they begin acting out.

I think the isolation/solitary confinement that some young people experience while living with this relatively new technology is beginning to take a toll.

I wish I knew the answer.
 
StarSong said:
The gun-worshiping culture in much of the US only adds to the equation. Some state things like, "If you want my gun you'll have to pry it from my cold dead hands." Really? Prizing the ability to wield deadly force over another human is more valued than one's own life? I could see someone saying that about their children, but about their weapons?
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R.i.p. for those who lost their lives.

That picture Rockr posted with the ‘girl’ proudly carrying the automatic weapon keeps flashing through my mind.
If kids are being taught this line of thinking , should we be so shocked by this outcome?
She was wearing a deadly weapon like it was the latest fashion statement. Glamouring gun ownership !

Most school shootings in Canada have been due to students with mental disorders getting their hands on deadly weapons.

I don’t have a solution but I can’t help thinking there’s possibly a connection.
 
Aunt Bea said:
I've wondered if it could be partly due to the internet.

When I was growing up we lived in a 'good neighborhood', we had to be old enough to drive in order to get to a 'bad neighborhood' and sample all it had to offer. Today kids can go to any neighborhood in the world and indulge in anything they fancy with the click of a mouse or the touch of a screen.

I believe that the anonymity offered by the internet has emboldened some folks and allowed their anti-social behaviors to fester until they begin acting out.

I think the isolation/solitary confinement that some young people experience while living with this relatively new technology is beginning to take a toll.

I wish I knew the answer.
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I too think it has a huge impact. Modern technology has its downside for sure.
 
Stormy said:
Radishrose you are spot on because it has much more to do with the killer than the weapon. These kids are over medicated and out of their minds and they have emotional problems that can't be solved with a pill or they're just haters. Don't listen to the "deflection" critics. You notice they eagerly appear out of nowhere when they hear of their FAVORITE news story another shooting in US while we mourn our losses. They don't show any sympathy for the dead but they are quick to shame us and our country and our friends here. They love to wag their fingers at the US from their perceived perch and their only agenda is extreme gun control like they have bowed down to where they live. BobF I say this to you too, don't be scolded by the eager outsiders. And starsong I'm not afraid at all to live in my country, if I was I'd move somewhere else like Mexico, Australia or maybe China. That's all I've got to say
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Excuse me, but I resent the assumption that those of us who live in countries with strict gun control have “bowed down” to anything, and are heartless pushers of a no gun ideology. I live in Canada, we have strict gun laws. I feel huge compassion for the American dead and injured, I am not eager

to shame anyone, nor do I place myself above others, American or otherwise. I mourn for the American people, and I sincerely wish them success in dealing with this terrible blight. If the non American posters question the status quo in America, it is out of concern, not some gleeful enjoyment of the pain and suffering currently going on. To suggest otherwise is unfairly maligning people from other countries.
 
Shalimar said:
Excuse me, but I resent your assumption that those of us who live in countries with strict gun control have “bowed down” to anything, and are heartless pushers of a no gun ideology. I live in Canada, we have strict gun laws. I feel huge compassion for the American dead and injured, I am not eager

to shame anyone, nor do I place myself above others, American or otherwise. I mourn for the American people, and I sincerely wish them success in dealing with this terrible blight. If the non American posters question the status quo in America, it is out of concern, not some gleeful enjoyment of the pain and suffering currently going on. To suggest otherwise is unfairly maligning people from other countries.
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Thank you Shalimar. You are a much better communicator than I am but I share your thoughts.

We might not share the same country but we do share the same pain .
 
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