Derek Chauvin's sentencing is tomorrow. What will it be?

Irwin

Irwin

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Okay, place your bets... How much time, if any, will Derek Chauvin receive?

"Receive" is kind of a misnomer. He's not receiving anything. He's having time taken away (from his life).
 

Irwin said:
Okay, place your bets... How much time, if any, will Derek Chauvin receive?

"Receive" is kind of a misnomer. He's not receiving anything. He's having time taken away (from his life).
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He took away a life from an innocent man. Many folks on this forum consider themselves Christian so let's do as their Bible commands ~ a life for a life. After all, we all believe in justice, don't we?
 
Maximum allowed by law for the crime he was found guilty of is 40 years. Anything over 30 would have an excellent chance of being reduced during appeal. Most bets are on 20 to 25 with credit for time served.
Chauvin's attorney is asking for probation due to the danger he will face once behind bars. That ain't gonna happen. 20 to 25 should satisfy those who wanted to see him convicted and behind bars. There may be some peaceful demonstrations outside the court while awaiting the sentence announcement. If he does get less than 15 years, the demonstrations could turn violent.
20 to 25 would certainly satisfy me. If he does survive his sentence, he will be a broken man upon release and never wear a uniform again. A sentence of that length would also send a stern message to current officers and their department administrations.
 
I know it isn't going to happen, but he deserved life. He took the life of an innocent man. But, being that he was a 'policeman', he will probably receive about 10 years. Just a hunch.
 
His sentence will be for the worst of his three counts, the 2nd degree unintentional murder, and Minnesota suggests 15 years for that if it's a first offence, but the prosecution has asked for extra time added because of Chauvin's position of authority.

So I'm guessing 25 years,
 
oldiebutgoody said:
He took away a life from an innocent man. Many folks on this forum consider themselves Christian so let's do as their Bible commands ~ a life for a life. After all, we all believe in justice, don't we?
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How is a career criminal an innocent man?
  • George Floyd moved to Minneapolis in 2014 after being released from prison in Houston, Texas following an arrest for aggravated robbery
  • On May 25, 2020, Floyd was arrested for passing a counterfeit $20 bill at a grocery store in Minneapolis
  • He was under the influence of fentanyl and methamphetamine at the time of arrest
  • Floyd has more than a decade-old criminal history at the time of the arrest and went to jail for atleast 5 times
  • George Floyd was the ringleader of a violent home invasion
  • He plead guilty to entering a woman’s home, pointing a gun at her stomach and searching the home for drugs and money, according to court records
  • Floyd was sentenced to 10 months in state jail for possession of cocaine in a December 2005 arrest
  • He had previously been sentenced to eight months for the same offense, stemming from an October 2002 arrest
  • Floyd was arrested in 2002 for criminal trespassing and served 30 days in jail
  • He had another stint for a theft in August 1998
  • https://greatgameindia.com/george-floyd-criminal/
 
Chet said:
How is a career criminal an innocent man?
  • George Floyd moved to Minneapolis in 2014 after being released from prison in Houston, Texas following an arrest for aggravated robbery
  • On May 25, 2020, Floyd was arrested for passing a counterfeit $20 bill at a grocery store in Minneapolis
  • He was under the influence of fentanyl and methamphetamine at the time of arrest
  • Floyd has more than a decade-old criminal history at the time of the arrest and went to jail for atleast 5 times
  • George Floyd was the ringleader of a violent home invasion
  • He plead guilty to entering a woman’s home, pointing a gun at her stomach and searching the home for drugs and money, according to court records
  • Floyd was sentenced to 10 months in state jail for possession of cocaine in a December 2005 arrest
  • He had previously been sentenced to eight months for the same offense, stemming from an October 2002 arrest
  • Floyd was arrested in 2002 for criminal trespassing and served 30 days in jail
  • He had another stint for a theft in August 1998
  • https://greatgameindia.com/george-floyd-criminal/
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Your list is moot... has no practical relevance.

There have been many topics of conversation over George Floyd's past, arguments that he was this, and he was that, but I still have yet to see where any cop has a right to take the life of another person (regardless of their past history) when that person has not, or is not causing anyone else any harm at the time of arrest or questioning.

With that said, George Floyd WAS innocent the day he died.

So Chet, because you stole a candy bar at the corner store when you were a kid, should that follow you around for the rest of your life? Should it determine whether you live or die at the hands of police/authorities when/if you get arrested in the future? I think not.
 
George Floyd passed a counterfeit bill and was doing illegal drugs that day. He then proceeded to resist arrest to the point of requiring four police officers to subdue him. If he had been an "innocent man" that day he wouldn't have died.
 
Della said:
George Floyd passed a counterfeit bill and was doing illegal drugs that day. He then proceeded to resist arrest to the point of requiring four police officers to subdue him. If he had been an "innocent man" that day he wouldn't have died.
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We've already seen your words played-out a hundred times over in past forum discussions related to George Floyd resisting arrest, and to date I have yet to see any law that paves the way for any cop to kill someone based solely on someone resisting arrest.

I'm all for the death penalty, too, just that I like to see it done legally and through the justice system, not at the hands of some power-hungry, renegade cop who arbitrarily decides that a man should die.
 
Chet said:
How is a career criminal an innocent man?
  • George Floyd moved to Minneapolis in 2014 after being released from prison in Houston, Texas following an arrest for aggravated robbery
  • On May 25, 2020, Floyd was arrested for passing a counterfeit $20 bill at a grocery store in Minneapolis
  • He was under the influence of fentanyl and methamphetamine at the time of arrest
  • Floyd has more than a decade-old criminal history at the time of the arrest and went to jail for atleast 5 times
  • George Floyd was the ringleader of a violent home invasion
  • He plead guilty to entering a woman’s home, pointing a gun at her stomach and searching the home for drugs and money, according to court records
  • Floyd was sentenced to 10 months in state jail for possession of cocaine in a December 2005 arrest
  • He had previously been sentenced to eight months for the same offense, stemming from an October 2002 arrest
  • Floyd was arrested in 2002 for criminal trespassing and served 30 days in jail
  • He had another stint for a theft in August 1998
  • https://greatgameindia.com/george-floyd-criminal/
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All that is true, but it's not up to a solitary cop to act as judge, jury, and executioner. There are a lot of dirty cops and they can't be allowed to get away with murder. Otherwise, the entire police force looks dirty. Chauvin had his share of misdeeds and he certainly wasn't the cream of the crop. He flunked out of high school, for craps sake.

I just took a look at your source for that information. It's a conspiracy website! :ROFLMAO:
 
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In finding that Chauvin treated Mr Floyd with particular cruelty, Judge Cahill wrote:
"The slow death of George Floyd occurring over approximately six minutes of his positional asphyxia was particularly cruel in that Mr Floyd was begging for his life and obviously terrified by the knowledge that he was likely to die but during which the Defendant objectively remained indifferent to Mr Floyd's pleas."
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Yes, it was cruel IMO
 
Irwin said:
My guess is 20 years. That will be high for a cop, since they're usually just given a slap on the wrist, but in this case, that would mean widespread rioting. In a perfect world, he'd get life.
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20 years IS a light sentence. It's automatically cut in half, then with time off for "Good behavior" plus the fact that he's a former cop/"Hero," he'll be out in 5 years. Not bad for someone who deserves to be executed.
 
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Chet said:
How is a career criminal an innocent man?
  • George Floyd moved to Minneapolis in 2014 after being released from prison in Houston, Texas following an arrest for aggravated robbery
  • On May 25, 2020, Floyd was arrested for passing a counterfeit $20 bill at a grocery store in Minneapolis
  • He was under the influence of fentanyl and methamphetamine at the time of arrest
  • Floyd has more than a decade-old criminal history at the time of the arrest and went to jail for atleast 5 times
  • George Floyd was the ringleader of a violent home invasion
  • He plead guilty to entering a woman’s home, pointing a gun at her stomach and searching the home for drugs and money, according to court records
  • Floyd was sentenced to 10 months in state jail for possession of cocaine in a December 2005 arrest
  • He had previously been sentenced to eight months for the same offense, stemming from an October 2002 arrest
  • Floyd was arrested in 2002 for criminal trespassing and served 30 days in jail
  • He had another stint for a theft in August 1998
  • https://greatgameindia.com/george-floyd-criminal/
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Aunt Marg said:
Your list is moot... has no practical relevance.

There have been many topics of conversation over George Floyd's past, arguments that he was this, and he was that, but I still have yet to see where any cop has a right to take the life of another person (regardless of their past history) when that person has not, or is not causing anyone else any harm at the time of arrest or questioning.

With that said, George Floyd WAS innocent the day he died.

So Chet, because you stole a candy bar at the corner store when you were a kid, should that follow you around for the rest of your life? Should it determine whether you live or die at the hands of police/authorities when/if you get arrested in the future? I think not.
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Indeed. We have gone over this but it has fallen on deaf ears.

As I have previously documented (please remember that I have a law degree) in Minnesota one must first ascertain that someone is knowingly passing counterfeit money in order to warrant an arrest. The cashier stated ON THE RECORD in a court of law under oath that he did not ask Floyd whether he knew the bill was counterfeit. Furthermore, the police were asked the same question and gave the same reply UNDER OATH. Therefore, an arrest was NOT, repeat: NOT warranted because no one ascertained whether he knew or did not know that he was committing a crime.

Previously I have mentioned that the Twin Cities has had a recent history of counterfeit bills being passed around due to organized criminals making counterfeit bills. One of my neighbors (a white guy) was told by a cashier the $20 bill he attempted to use was counterfeit. He was given the bill back and was NOT arrested. That's what you are supposed to do in this state.

George Floyd should not have been arrested in the first place. If those stupid cops had done their job and posed a simple question as to whether he knew the bill was real or not, none of these problems would have taken place.



Re fentanyl - in the state of Minnesota fentanyl is available by prescription only. Floyd had some of it in his system. But that was prescribed medicine which means he did not commit a crime by using it.


Re his criminal record - he has been clean since 2014. Therefore, his past is inconsequential. Heck, Saul of Tarsus was a convicted mass murderer. But he was forgiven and today he is called St Paul. The city I live in was named for him.



Like it or not, George Floyd was innocent. It was the cops who committed a crime by arresting him without making any effort to ascertain whether he knew the bill was counterfeit. Had those criminal cops not violated the law George Floyd would be alive today and we would have had far less chaos last summer in the cities. Blame the stupid cops and the jackass politicians who coddle them for the problems. Don't blame the innocent.
 

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