Did You Hear About the Woman Who Cut Out A Pregnant Woman's Baby When She Responded to Her Ad?

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Some woman put an ad on Craigslist selling baby clothes. When a pregnant woman came to her house to look at the clothes, she cut the baby out of her and the baby died. The woman was sent to the hospital in fair condition. I can't believe some of these people nowadays. :(
 

It's getting beyond weird, what is happening to people's minds. Maybe it's always gone on, we just have the quickest news nowadays:(
 
Most estimates put the percentage of those with a serious mental illness at about 6% of our population....that equates to about 20 million people in this nation who are right on the edge of going haywire. Many of them wind up in prison, but millions more are walking our streets every day of the week, and the daily news gives ample evidence of what they are capable of. The programs and institutions that Used to be dedicated to helping these people have largely disappeared over the past several years...it is now "politically incorrect" to label any but the most deranged as having mental health issues.
 
You definitely have to beware of strangers coming into your house, or you going into theirs. I've sold a couple of things on Craigslist, and my husband was always somewhere in the house, etc.
 
You definitely have to beware of strangers coming into your house, or you going into theirs. I've sold a couple of things on Craigslist, and my husband was always somewhere in the house, etc.

AMEN to strangers. Craigslist is now recommending that a seller should arrange to meet a buyer/seller in a public place to avoid getting robbed, etc. I buy and sell stuff on EBAY, and periodically take some things to a local auction. That way, all transactions take place via the Internet or in a setting with large numbers of people. I would not want to be alone with many of the people I see walking around.
 
I would never go to anyone's house to buy from Craigslist. My friend thinks it's silly, but after all the stuff that's happened (i.e., the caigslist killer, etc) that couple that was killed when going to look at a car, etc.) it just seems prudent not to do it. I'd rather be silly than dead.
 
Just a couple days ago, we had a mother kill,her three little ones. Choked them, drowned one and stabbed them. Then she tried to slit her wrist. The five month old baby was the last to pass just a couple days ago. The wife and I shed a tear over this one. Even the news folks were having a tough time reporting. So sad.
 
This case will be interesting as it must be determined if the attacker is guilty of murder of attempted murder. It has to be determined if the fetus was viable enough to have survived on it's own.
 
Just a couple days ago, we had a mother kill,her three little ones. Choked them, drowned one and stabbed them. Then she tried to slit her wrist. The five month old baby was the last to pass just a couple days ago. The wife and I shed a tear over this one. Even the news folks were having a tough time reporting. So sad.

This may sound cold-hearted, but it's the way I feel. I just wish that these mothers and fathers would just kill themselves if they want to, and leave the children out of it. Why should these innocent little children be denied living out their lives because of a parent with problems or mental issues? It angers me when they kill the kids, and then the 'attempt' to take their own lives somehow fails, and they live. :rolleyes:
 
Hardly a day goes by without some mind boggling violent crime being reported. Even out here in the boondocks, we are not immune from these things. Last year, some nitwit who was living with his girlfriend and babysitting her young boy, beat him up because he was crying, then took the little boy out onto a country road, and claimed the little kid had been killed by a hit and run driver while they were taking a walk. I hope he spends the rest of his days behind bars.
 
I would never go to anyone's house to buy from Craigslist. My friend thinks it's silly, but after all the stuff that's happened (i.e., the caigslist killer, etc) that couple that was killed when going to look at a car, etc.) it just seems prudent not to do it. I'd rather be silly than dead.

Me neither. People are DANGEROUS! When will all the innocents ever learn?
 
It's the most heinous of crimes but I remember reading a similar story which happened in the USA a few years ago...


Another report this morning from Detroit where a mother has beeen arrested following the discovery of her son and daughter aged 11 and 14 being discovered dead and wrapped in the same bag in her freezer..

from the BBC...


A Detroit mother has been arrested after officials found two of her children dead inside her freezer.

Court officials carrying out an eviction order on Tuesday discovered the bodies of an 11-year-old boy and a 14-year-old girl.
Police did not name the woman but said the bodies were wrapped in the same plastic bag.
Two of the woman's other children, aged 11 and 17, were found at a neighbour's home and placed in protective custody.
A post-mortem report has been scheduled to determine how the children died.
Police Chief James Craig called it a "terrible find".
Tori Childs, a neighbour, told the Associated Press that she hadn't seen the two dead children for about a year.
Neighbours said the 36-year-old mother was behind on her rent on her three-bedroom apartment and was "going through some things".

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I aided in a fetal abduction in 2008 in Pennsylvania. Thankfully, I was just chasing down some people to get their statements about the accused, asking them the usual questions. The lady that was pregnant died, but the baby survived. I didn't follow up on the case and did not have to give any testimony, so I wasn't really involved, other than just taking some statements. This has to be a tremendously difficult time for those involved with the person that was found dead and lost her child. When I took their statements, I could just feel the people's different emotions coming from them. Some were upset, some were very angry and I had one girl that passed out when I explained why I was interviewing her.
 
Sadly, this happened again in Chicago. The mother-to-be had someone coming over to her house to sell her used baby clothes, the mother was strangled and killed, the baby was cut from her body. Stories like this make me sick, how can anyone be so heartless and cruel. Rest in peace to the mother, hoping the baby survives.:( Full story here.

“We believe that she was murdered and we believe that the baby [was] forcibly removed following that murder,” police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said in a statement.
The baby boy was recovered after paramedics responded to a home where a woman said she had just given birth on the same day that Ochoa-Lopez went missing. DNA tests later determined the baby to be Ochoa-Lopez's child. The baby is being treated at Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Illinois, in grave condition, police said Thursday. Ochoa-Lopez's family named the baby Yadiel.
 
It seems like everyday you hear heartbreaking stories like these. I can not think of the worst way these murderers should be punished. Prison is not cruel enough IMO. They should experience the worst punishment they can receive.
 
This in today news....

A woman, her 24-year-old daughter and her husband have been charged in the murder of a pregnant teenager who was found strangled behind their home on Wednesday after having her baby boy ripped from her belly in a sickening, womb-raiding plot they allegedly hatched over the course of several months.

Clarisa Figueroa, 46, and her daughter Desiree Figueroa, 24, have been charged with the murder of Marlen Ochoa-Uriostequi and with the aggravated battery of Marlen's baby boy who is fighting for his life in the hospital after being cut from her womb once she was dead.
Clarisa's boyfriend Piotr Bobak, 40, has been charged with concealing a murder and concealing a death.
All three are due in court for bond hearings on Friday.
According to neighbors, all three lived in the basement of the house which belongs to Clarisa's parents, Jose, 70, and Angelita, 60.
They have not been charged and it is unclear what, if anything, they knew of the plot.
Marlen had been missing since April 23 when she went to meet Clarisa after meeting on a Facebook group for women in need. Clarisa claimed she was also pregnant and offered to give the young married mother free baby clothes.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...g-pregnant-Chicago-teen-womb-raider-plot.html

 
Horrible. :(

Interaction with strangers via online ads can be so dangerous. Whether it be selling, buying, renting, dating, job hunting, whatever. And Craigslist has had a lot of bad publicity.
 
Craigslist has been at the head of a lot of crimes. It’s a good concept, but it needs to be more regulated like eBay. Craigslist has dropped some of their personal ads since the Craigslist Killers occurred and the Boston Intern turned robber/killer.

The one Craigslist Killer was a fellow who lived in Ohio and placed a help wanted ad stating that it was “the job of a lifetime.” Richard Beasley would then drive his new hire to a secluded woods area and then shoot them in the head. On his third attempt, I believe it was, his gun misfired and his prey was able to escape. The lucky fellow made it to another home and called the police. At first, the police were skeptical of his story, but once the victim showed them the crime scene and they found evidence, they believed him. They were able to catch him using his ad and obtaining information from Craigslist.

The other killer, Phillip Markoff, would set up a date with a call girl, rob them of their money and credit cards and leave. He never concealed his identity. One of his victims decided to take him on and he ended up killing her. The Boston police and the Massachusetts State Police were able to use video and DNA to track him down. He later hung himself in jail while on suicide watch.
 
It's events like this that I decided a year ago I was not going to deliberately view horrible news ever again. I screwed up opening this thread. However many years I have left I am going to make a conscious effort to minimize the bad and magnify the good. If you want to say I am turning my back on the world I would respond by saying simply life is too short to throw dirt on my days especially if I do it my self.
 


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