Drivers/Car Owners Being Tracked In NYC

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Drivers/car owners are being tracked in New York City with an Easy Pass device ment to go through a toll booth fast. Now it's being used to track usage and driving habits. NYC says it will help them control traffic.

http://www.newsmax.com/US/ACLU-New-York-E-ZPass-devices/2015/04/27/id/641024/

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/09/04/nyc-department-of-transportation-drive-smart-program/

Sounds like big brother to me. Some of the ways they are trying to rationalize it is that data could be used to give a driver an insurance discount but it also could be used to deny insurance or increase rates even though the driver doesn't get tickets or in accidents. Sooner or later this data will wind up in criminal or civil court or simply be released under freedom of information or open government requests. Not good.

I thought transportation departments and police used cameras and traffic counters to control traffic/come up with plans.
 

Most people are being "tracked" in ways few of them imagine. Virtually everyone who uses a cellphone, for example, is having their movements tracked by any number of agencies and companies.
 
I have a friend that was driving on the PA Turnpike and came up to what he thought was a "forced" exit - there was no other way to go. He took the exit and went through the only open lane - the EZPass one.

A month or so later he received a $125 ticket in the mail for not having an EZPass. They had photographed his plates.
 

Fools have bought a clear plastic cover plate which goes over the license plate, claimed to produce only a blur when photographed, for anywhere between $20 and $50 each! Cameras can use light which is not reflected back to the camera unimpeded.

For interested "cheats" a cover plate, blank, hidden below the regular plate, and remote-controlled deployed from within the vehicle, counters Big Brother.

BTW, I have not done this..........around here nobody cares, seemingly not even the cops, that red-light runners abound. Keeps the stopped vehicles which are ready to start moving again, more cautious and "on their toes"........imp
 
Around here, for a while they had traffic cameras which photographed the license plates of red light runners. I got a big fat ticket in the mail which said I had run a red light in the wee hours of the morning in an area of town I had NOT been in in years. Anyway I paid the ticket so as to avoid the expense and hassle of fighting it (those kind of tickets didnt get reported as a moving violation, so no impact on my insurance).

Several months later, those cameras were removed or shut down because of so many "errors." IMHO, these "errors" were a purposeful money making concern because the powers that be knew that most people would pay rather than fight (which could easily cost more than the ticket). Especially since it is so hard to prove you (or your car) were NOT somewhere at a given time.
 
Butterfly said:
Around here, for a while they had traffic cameras which photographed the license plates of red light runners. I got a big fat ticket in the mail which said I had run a red light in the wee hours of the morning in an area of town I had NOT been in in years. Anyway I paid the ticket so as to avoid the expense and hassle of fighting it (those kind of tickets didnt get reported as a moving violation, so no impact on my insurance).

Several months later, those cameras were removed or shut down because of so many "errors." IMHO, these "errors" were a purposeful money making concern because the powers that be knew that most people would pay rather than fight (which could easily cost more than the ticket). Especially since it is so hard to prove you (or your car) were NOT somewhere at a given time.
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Do not know if this is true or nor:

A driver went thru a green light and saw the camera flash. Knowing the light was green, he went around the block and went thru again on the green and saw a flash!

He waited a month to get the ticket and go fight it in court..When he got the tickets (2) they where for not wearing a seat belt!!!!

Note: I do not believe it is true because the rear of the vehicle is photographed.
 
There is not a moment that goes by that 'they' don't know what you're doing or have done. Your credit cards, your cell phones, your cars, camera's everywhere, your telephones, Facebook, Google, etc.....it's all watched, collected, followed and saved. I heard one individual put it like this: if a crime happens in one part of the city, and you were in the neighbourhood and made a phone call and used your visa there (and something else that I can't remember), that can be all be triangulated and you could very possibly be picked up for questioning. Even if we're good folks, we could find ourselves in the cross hairs of Big Brother.
 
Don M. said:
Most people are being "tracked" in ways few of them imagine. Virtually everyone who uses a cellphone, for example, is having their movements tracked by any number of agencies and companies.
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We are tracked in many ways and CAN be tracked in many ways but that does not mean it is an absolute or should be accepted. This is why you never give up your rights, information or privacy on a silver platter.

In this case the local government will controlling this data and will much more likely to be accessable. Also note some professional politicians in the federal government want this on every car in the US to track miles driven for tax purposes among other things.
 

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