Ebola Patient's Family Ostracized & Feel Short Changed

Well... believe what you wish... Everyone is entitled to their own opinion... just not to their own facts... So until facts prove otherwise... I'll go with the CDC..


Oh... and that RUSSIA thing? If YOU noticed... it was the United Nations meeting on October 3rd.. where Thomas Friedman, the director of the CDC addressed the UN regarding the Ebola outbreak... I would think YOU of anyone would be all over something out of Russia? lol!!
 

QuickSilver said:
Ebola has been around since 1976.I'm sure it has been around forever, but that is how long we have known of it. . It has not mutated so far. AIDS has not become airborne either..
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If it has not mutated, then why did it go from monkeys to pigs?

What about Ebola Reston, the strain that mutated (although not fatal to humans) in Reston, VA in 1989? It started from a shipment of monkeys and was transmitted to four of the facility workers who tested positive but did not die. Totally aerosol transmitted.

Supposedly there are many virologists that are quietly talking among themselves about Ebola's chance of going airborne, and the fact that THEY are worried about it should be a warning to the rest of us.

Saying that it CANNOT become airborne is blatantly false. The more that it spreads the more chance that it can mutate to survive in the air in a droplet-dispersal form, much like flus. Granted it hasn't changed much at this point, but we're at 4,000 cases now and the initial work was done when there were only 1,500 cases extant. Chances are, if the numbers start cranking upward quickly there will be mutations taking place.

I just don't see Ebola as something you want to take any chances with at all. It's far too nasty, far too virulent to play with and to make assumptions about, and with the track record of places like the CDC I wouldn't place a lot of trust in "official" pronouncements.
 
When I said what I said above about quarantine of the Dallas family of the Liberian traveller, I was NOT blaming the victim (not even sure who the "victim" is there, unless it is the sick traveller). I stand by what I said that the family, in light of all that had been in the news about ebola and where it was raging, the incubation time, etc., made a very poor choice in letting someone from Liberia stay at their home. The family probably did not know he had helped that pregnant woman, but they DID know he came from a region where ebola was rampant and that anyone from there might have been exposed and that a person exposed could be carrying the disease for days before symptoms appeared. Therefore, they should not be surprised they are quarantined as a matter of public safety.

I believe we should not allow people to travel to the US from infected areas without a quarantine period. Period.
 

It's interesting to me that the family of Duncan.. the patient... who were in the apartment with him while he was very ill... vomiting, and diarrhea.. etc.. AND had to stay in that apartment with all that soiled linen for over a week before a new place was found for them... have so far NOT contracted the virus.. Now what is that telling you? Perhaps that we should listen to the CDC and not assorted publications that just want to increase circulation? I don't know why people want to believe all the speculation and rumors.. It's not time to set our hair on fire yet folks..
 
Well I think that Mr. Duncan arrived in the US about 14 days ago and ebola has an incubation period of 2 to 21 days according to the WHO so it could still show up in his family members. As for the CDC, the article you linked referenced that it hasn't mutated to become airborne and I found another page that suggested it might not make that kind of mutation ever as virus's rarely mutate to different methods of transmission (sorry I didn't keep that link otherwise I'd share it).

And Quicksilver, the Washington Post was merely doing a piece on a study out of Harvard(?). If you don't like Harvard researchers, that's fine, but it was Harvard researchers not the Washington Post writer that made those statements about the number of mutations that have occurred. No one is suggesting we 'set our hair on fire' but it's good to have all the proper information out there. So no mutation to becoming airborne, but it has mutated which could make it more difficult to diagnose and/or treat.

And you're right, it was the Russian site that was reporting a UN meeting. I suppose my point was that I find it interesting that you didn't go out of your way to find a page that reported on it that wasn't Russian. I would have thought that an American page would have been more your choice. Even I rarely use sites that are Russian to 'prove' anything because I understand how 'unacceptable' they are to most Westerners. Oh well, who cares right? My interest is finding out what is true as much as is possible and to that end, we can all contribute. Hope you have a nice day.
 
I have no doubt that ebola will NOT run rampant through the US. Also there has been progress made in West Africa concerning containment. What bothers me is the fearmongering and hysteria that is being fueled by news sources.. It serves some purposes well to keep people angry and afraid as well as distrustful of everything. It's a method of control. I just hate seeing people buying into the wild conjecture and conspiracy theories. As for the family of Duncan.. time will tell, but as of yet, they are not infected.


CDC Director Doctor Thomas Frieden says there has been progress made in the fight against Ebola in West Africa.
Speaking at a press conference this afternoon, Frieden revealed that a district in Liberia that is considered the epicenter of the outbreak is seeing the number of Ebola cases plummet.
He said the disease also seems to be contained in the Democratic Republic of Congo
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One more point regarding Ebola and AIDS.. While both the same type of virus.. they are not the same.. Ebola is self limiting. You can recover from ebola and no longer be able to spread the disease..you can be cured. which means it is not mutating as fast as some claim.. We are able to build up antibodies and fight the off the virus. Once gone.. it's gone. However, the AIDS virus does mutate and therefore once a person is infected.. they stay infected for life. They cannot keep up with the mutations in order to muster an immune defense.. so they can infect people forever. Make sense?


Read more: http://www.kfbk.com/articles/kfbk-n...says-progress-is-being-12839083#ixzz3FYVJfTnJ​
 
QuickSilver said:
....... I just hate seeing people buying into the wild conjecture and conspiracy theories. ......
One more point regarding Ebola and AIDS.. While both the same type of virus.. they are not the same.. Ebola is self limiting. You can recover from ebola and no longer be able to spread the disease..you can be cured. which means it is not mutating as fast as some claim.. We are able to build up antibodies and fight the off the virus. Once gone.. it's gone. However, the AIDS virus does mutate and therefore once a person is infected.. they stay infected for life. They cannot keep up with the mutations in order to muster an immune defense.. so they can infect people forever. Make sense?


Read more: http://www.kfbk.com/articles/kfbk-n...says-progress-is-being-12839083#ixzz3FYVJfTnJ​
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So with that in mind, how did you deal when the authorities were fear mongering about swine flu and their 'we're gonna die, we're gonna die ... if we don't all get swine flu shots' a few years ago? You know, the one where everyone was lining up for their shots etc. Because that was rampant fear mongering on the parts of governments everywhere.

As for the mutating, whether fast or slow, I guess that's something you should discuss with the Harvard researchers.
 
It's estimated that the Duncan's hospital bill was running about $1000 an HOUR.

http://www.nhregister.com/general-n...eased-texas-ebola-patient-nearly-1000-an-hour

For the family cry he didn't get care when other treatments were not available or he didn't qualify(wrong blood type) is ridiculous. Also did Duncan say he thought he had Ebola when he first went into the hospital? Did he come right out and say it? Otherwise the hospital was trying to diagnose and treat your run of mill flu or stomach virus.
 

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