Electric Vehicles

Mike

Mike

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Have you thought about getting one?

I saw an article in the newspaper a few days ago about going
on a long trip in one, not recommended at this time of the
year, especially when the trains are on strike, the item wrote
about a 12 hr wait at a service station on the M6 in Cumberland,
the area where they were stuck, is a really bleak place in the
middle of not very much, the item showed a line of Tesla Cars
queueing on the actual motorway to gain access to the services,
I can't find the picture on the net, unfortunately.

They were all heading for Scotland and had reached the North
of England, about 300 miles from London, assuming that was
their starting point, so fully laden car maybe with children on
board, the heater running full blast to keep warm, all will soon
deplete the battery, then you have to wait for a charger, all not
really good adverts for the vehicles.
45 second video of Tesla Queue.

Here is a newspaper article about the problems facing electric
vehicles in the UK, they will also be found in any country that
allows them to be imported or built.

We are all used to filling up with Petrol or diesel, which only
takes about 5 minutes, the quickest charge I believe takes at
least half an hour.

Food for thought.

Mike.
 
British companies installed a record number of public electric car chargers during 2022 as they raced to dominate a fast-growing and potentially lucrative market.

There were more than 8,700 public chargers installed in the UK during the year to 22 December, bringing the total available to more than 37,000, according to Zap-Map, a data company. That represented a 30% year-on-year increase, slower than the 38% annual growth in sales of battery electric cars during the year to November.


Boris Johnson’s government announced a target of 300,000 publicly available chargers by 2030, when the sale of new pure petrol or diesel cars will be banned. Year-on-year growth of 30% in the number of chargers installed would be enough to hit the target, although that would mean annual installations more than doubling to 19,000 by 2025 and accelerating from there.

Despite the scale of the challenge, many in the industry regard the 300,000 target as realistic, according to Ben Nelmes, chief executive of New Automotive, a thinktank. Charger companies have more investment coming in than they can put to work, but problems may remain where local authorities are slow to act, he said.

Chris Pateman-Jones, chief executive of Connected Kerb, which plans to install 190,000 on-street chargers by 2030, said he expected a further significant increase in charger numbers during 2023, but “much more needs to be done if the country is to be EV-ready for 2030
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...tric-vehicle-chargers-installed-in-uk-in-2022
 
JaniceM said:
Admittedly I don't really understand them. Was a little amused when noticing cars plugged in in a grocery store parking lot.
My concern though: what if you're out in the middle of nowhere someplace and your car quits, then what??

I'd guess it's just another fad, but that's only my guess.
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But it's a fad that some are trying to push down our throats - before the infrastructure is ready and before they have considered the environmental impact of the batteries.
 
Mike said:
Have you thought about getting one?

I saw an article in the newspaper a few days ago about going
on a long trip in one, not recommended at this time of the
year, especially when the trains are on strike, the item wrote
about a 12 hr wait at a service station on the M6 in Cumberland,
the area where they were stuck, is a really bleak place in the
middle of not very much, the item showed a line of Tesla Cars
queueing on the actual motorway to gain access to the services,
I can't find the picture on the net, unfortunately.

They were all heading for Scotland and had reached the North
of England, about 300 miles from London, assuming that was
their starting point, so fully laden car maybe with children on
board, the heater running full blast to keep warm, all will soon
deplete the battery, then you have to wait for a charger, all not
really good adverts for the vehicles.
45 second video of Tesla Queue.

Here is a newspaper article about the problems facing electric
vehicles in the UK, they will also be found in any country that
allows them to be imported or built.

We are all used to filling up with Petrol or diesel, which only
takes about 5 minutes, the quickest charge I believe takes at
least half an hour.

Food for thought.

Mike.
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Here's a divergent question...

I've had a Toyota hybrid for 3 years. I live in Oregon, where the weather is fairly mild, but in winter the MPG goes down directly correlated to outside temperature. There is nothing wrong with the car.

I asked a friend who is an EE who owns a Tesla, and who lives in Florida. He likes his Tesla quite a bit, and I, too, like driving the Toyota when it's in EV mode: silent, smooth, very nice.

But he tells me that it's a matter of physics that the battery capacity is significantly reduced in cold weather, and from this I draw the implication that if say Tesla claims a range of 335 miles (e.g.), likely this is under optimal (warm) conditions. And under cold conditions that range may be significantly reduced.

Does anyone here have any observations or readings that might expand this topic?
 
Sawfish said:
Here's a divergent question...

I've had a Toyota hybrid for 3 years. I live in Oregon, where the weather is fairly mild, but in winter the MPG goes down directly correlated to outside temperature. There is nothing wrong with the car.

I asked a friend who is an EE who owns a Tesla, and who lives in Florida. He likes his Tesla quite a bit, and I, too, like driving the Toyota when it's in EV mode: silent, smooth, very nice.

But he tells me that it's a matter of physics that the battery capacity is significantly reduced in cold weather, and from this I draw the implication that if say Tesla claims a range of 335 miles (e.g.), likely this is under optimal (warm) conditions. And under cold conditions that range may be significantly reduced.

Does anyone here have any observations or readings that might expand this topic?
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Scientific stuff is beyond me, but I do know cold temps reduce batteries.
 
Battles are brewing against EV owners. Charging stations have been put in close to shopping areas. Big trucks have decided it’s their right to park in them, usually occupying two spots. This is a major tourist route in the summer and I’ve noticed the demand for these chargers growing. What silliness and selfishness.
 
JaniceM said:
Admittedly I don't really understand them. Was a little amused when noticing cars plugged in in a grocery store parking lot.
My concern though: what if you're out in the middle of nowhere someplace and your car quits, then what??

I'd guess it's just another fad, but that's only my guess.
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Obviously you do what owners of gasoline powered cars do....Call for a tow truck. Ever run out of gas ? JimB.
 
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