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Old D
Here in Dallas the NFL channel,-not the high dollar NfL channel, the cheapie that comes with the package: the menu states there going to broadcast all three games; however, that have lied before.

Nothing, Nothing! on the Fox or other network channels which is an indication of what they think of their viewing audience, that is just finky'

Kaila:
Got another Dr. Pepper can, empty-will bet against Pats just to keep it interesting.
 

Once more, " . . . only on NFL Network!" I will be curious to see if anyone actually sees it on any regular broadcast channel.

FOX26 in Houston is carrying the noon Texans-Tampa game.
The local stations give out the time schedule for local viewers.... It won't be posted on a National website for obvious reasons.

Usually NFL Network goes to FOX, and ESPN games go to ABC, when they are blacked out for majority of country.
 
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Last minute Xmas rush so no input from me. I pretty much agreed with everything Hoffman said, and very strongly feel Niners' Sherman should have waited for the Seahawks game to come back. Oh well, we'll see what happens!

NFL Week 16 Predictions
Week 16 loses the Thurs Night Football but gains a Saturday tripleheader.
NY Times by Benjamin Hoffman Dec. 20, 2019

Cowboys at Eagles, 4:25 p.m. Sunday, Fox (All times EST)
Pick: Cowboys
The Cowboys’ listing ship was righted last week with a blowout win over the Los Angeles Rams – Dallas’ first victory this season against a team with a winning record – but the stakes remain enormous in this division game against the Eagles (7-7).

A win would clinch a division title for Dallas, but a loss would not directly hand the title to Philadelphia. It would clear a fairly easy path to it, as neither team plays a good opponent Week 17. So who wins? It may come down to health.

Dallas QB Dak Prescott did not practice Wednesday with a shoulder injury. Prescott is expected to play Sunday, regardless of his practice status. But replicating last week’s run success will be difficult unless the Cowboys get lucky in the health department. LT Tyron Smith did not practice on Wednesday with an eye problem, and RT La’El Collins was a limited participant.

Facing Philadelphia’s solid run defense is not a huge issue with Smith and Collins on the field, especially if Prescott is near 100% – but the math changes considerably if any of those three is unable to play.

Texans at Buccaneers, 1 p.m. Saturday, NFL Network
Pick: Texans
Saints at Titans, 1 p.m. Sunday, Fox
Pick: Saints
The AFC South title awaits. The Texans (9-5) should beat the Bucs (7-7), who will be playing without WRs Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. Both have serious hamstring injuries. That hurts an offense which has looked superb recently. If Houston wins, it will clinch their division crown despite a strong push over the last few weeks from Tennessee. But should the Texans lose and Tennessee beats the Saints (11-3) on Sunday, the Titans (8-6) could set up a de facto division championship game between Tennessee and Houston in Week 17. But although Tennessee is good, it is not as good as New Orleans. The odds and analysts favor the Saints.

Rams at 49ers, 8:15 p.m. Saturday, NFL Network
Pick: 49ers
Richard Sherman has been practicing in full this week, and that is simultaneously terrific news for the 49ers (11-3) and a potentially dangerous decision. Why SF wants him back is obvious: The veteran cornerback was the best player in the NFL’s best secondary for the first 15 weeks of the season, and when he sat out last week with a partially torn hamstring the defense fell apart, letting Matt Ryan drive the Falcons to a shocking victory.

For SF to slow down the Rams (8-6), a healthy Sherman is a must. But with the 49ers having already secured a playoff spot, and with home field advantage throughout the playoffs probably requiring consecutive wins (including one in Seattle), getting Sherman an extra few weeks of rest might have been a better choice than rushing him back and risking further injury.

Regardless, both Sherman and his fellow cornerback K’Waun Williams appear on track to play in this game, which is awful news for Jared Goff, who was held to just 78 passing yards the last time he faced this defense.

Playing at home, SF is in a strong position to win. But if Rams Coach Sean McVay is anywhere near as competent as we were led to believe in previous seasons, he should have his team fired up to play the role of spoiler. That motivation could be enough to keep the score fairly tight.

Bills at Patriots, 4:30 p.m. Saturday, NFL Network
Pick: Patriots
If the Bills (10-4) manages an upset, it would pull even with the Patriots (11-3) in the AFC East (with a common-opponent tiebreaker tipping things to NE). Even without the division title, this season has been a huge success for the Bills, who won 10 games for the first time since 1999, secured their second playoff appearance in three years by clinching at worst a wild-card spot. In a win over Pittsburgh, Buffalo showed it has a defense to be feared.

But NE’s defense is better. Neither team has a particularly intimidating offense, so this matchup should come down to a few key mistakes. That is a situation the Patriots have thrived in throughout the Tom Brady era. Odds favor NE, but expect a close game.

Ravens at Browns, 1 p.m. Sunday, CBS
Pick: Ravens
These teams have been inextricably linked since the original Cleveland Browns moved to Baltimore back in 1996, becoming the Ravens and necessitating the creation of an expansion franchise in 1999 to replace them in Cleveland. Further layers of overlap were added when the league decided the Browns’ historical record would remain in Cleveland, retroactively turning the former Browns (now the Ravens) into an expansion team. The net effect is a record book in which it appears that an entire roster of players was traded from an existing team to an expansion team, with no assets going the other way, while the original team took a three-season hiatus.

The stakes here are far less confusing. With one more win, the Ravens (12-2) will secure home field advantage in the AFC playoffs. With one more defeat, the Browns (6-8) will have secured their 12th consecutive season with a losing record.

Chiefs at Bears, 8:20 p.m. Sunday, NBC
Pick: Chiefs
KC (10-4) has been boom-and-bust this season. They opened with 4 big wins, had a lull in which they went 2-4 (1-3 at home), and are now on a 4-game win streak outscoring their opponents by a total score of 110-45. Considering they have already won the AFC West division title and are peaking with the playoffs around the corner, it is hard to argue with their methods. Any slip-up by NE could lead to a first-round bye for KC, and you have all the motivation the Chiefs need for a big win. This road game against the Bears (7-7) is little more than a speed bump.

Cardinals at Seahawks, 4:25 p.m. Sunday, Fox
Pick: Seahawks
If the Seahawks (11-3) win their final two games of the season, both of which are at home, they will earn the No. 1 seed in the tough NFC, securing both a first-round bye and home field advantage thru the playoffs.

The trick will be not to look past this game against the Cardinals (4-9-1) with that big Week 17 showdown against SF looming. Arizona is pluckier than your typical nine-loss team, and last week showed a new wrinkle in Coach Kliff Kingsbury’s offense when the Cardinals dominated the Browns with a running game led by Kenyan Drake. But realistically the best Arizona could hope for in this game is to keep things fairly close.

Steelers at Jets, 1 p.m. Sunday, CBS
Pick: Steelers
The Jets (5-9) have an opportunity to be huge spoilers, as the chances for the Steelers (8-6) to land a playoff spot would improve to 68% with a win, but drops to 20% with a loss. Considering Pittsburgh’s offensive woes of late, the prospect of a loss on the road is not all that outlandish, especially since Jets safety Jamal Adams may be able to return from injury. The deciding factor will be whether the Steelers’ superb defense can force Sam Darnold into a few game-changing mistakes.

The Irrelevant Games
In each of these matchups, both teams either have already been eliminated, or have less than a 1 percent chance of making the playoffs.

Bengals at Dolphins, 1 p.m. Sunday, CBS
Bengals QB Andy Dalton’s worst record as a starter in his first eight seasons was 6-9-1. With a loss on Sunday, he would drop to 1-11 this year.
Pick: Dolphins

Jaguars at Falcons, 1 p.m. Sunday, Fox
Pick: Falcons

Raiders at Chargers, 4:05 p.m. Sunday, CBS
Pick: Chargers

Giants at Redskins, 1 p.m. Sunday, Fox
Pick: Redskins

Panthers at Colts, 1 p.m. Sunday, Fox
Pick: Colts

Lions at Broncos, 4:05 p.m. Sunday, CBS
Pick: Broncos

Monday’s Matchup
Packers at Vikings
, 8:15 p.m., ESPN
Pick: Vikings
A loss hands the division crown to the Packers (11-3). That gives the Packers every reason to attack their rivals in this game, and Minnesota might be severely limited as RB Dalvin Cook struggles with a shoulder injury. Minnesota can still get into the playoffs as a wild card.
 

Here where I am, I'm not seeing any of the Saturday games in any of our local fox listings, that I can find myself,

but it's interesting and who knows..., I dont have any expertise in where to look,
and I will be checking the tv, at the time!

I am glad that The Houston area will be seeing their team's game.

I'll enjoy looking at your post, for us, thanks @Lethe200
 
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BONNIE:
Fox darn sure better carry the game in Houston, if they didn't they would have some outraged fans.
It stinks that Fox and CBS train us to anticipate they will televise games then hand us a wet rag (in Dallas)

Really, saw an overview of Big Time TV executives: they have decided that Americans need more and more soccor, as it is very
cheap compared to what they pay the NFL.
You need to prepare yourself for wrestling, really, it is coming. They are running in 7 or 8 p.m. on Direct and are pushing for
Greater Coverage. The Tv Execs have talked to them...it's coming, five years, surly 10: Mr. and MRS America live wrestling on all channels.....
 
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Dallas:
Yes, NFL station is running all three: however, there was an alleged bug cuss fight with Fox and CBS.

Addendum 3:15 CST Buc vs Tx, hard hitting but terribly sloppy. JJ is supposed to be back for the playoffs, wonder if he is fully
healed and can be dominating?

I kin'da wanting the Pats, to win so I will owe Kalia an empty Dr. Pepper can, but would not mind seeing the Bills reeling of
40 points.

Addendum #2 Pats vs The Heir Apparent-gave the pat all they could deal with; one of the best 4th quarter this year.
Kaila: empty Dr Pepper can is in the mail, the game was worth it.
 
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Thanks for that humor added to my day, Jerry!:LOL:

@Old Dummy (and possibly other Bills fans here? )
You must have been disappointed, with the ending, of that very close game.
Your team played very well though, I can see from the highlights being shown, today,
and the Bills came extremely close to tying or winning it, and to challenging the Patriots out of winning the division.

Bills are still an improving and formidable team , :)
they have become much more challenging, and fun to watch, last year and this year.
They are in a good position for this playoff season, and for the future years, as well!


The highlights available today, show that last night's game was quite a contest too,
with Rams ahead often, but 49ers winning another close game. Sets up interesting competition between Seattle and 49ers, in the same division. Only one can win it, the other will be a wild card, then.

Same with Packers and Minnesota, who play each other on Mon night.

Well, Dallas VS Philadelphia, we all know, one of them must win that game and advance. :sneaky:
 
I was watching NFL channel, the usual propaganda about how exciting today's schedule was going to me.

A commenter was going on about which teams were playing each other for a few minutes.
Her time span was through and they switched back to the studio. but: not quick enough,
the camera caught the lady putting her hand to chest, bending slightly and making barf expressions.

Bet she hears about this.

Hey, the lady was only acknowledging that she was spinning what is essentially a boy's game, which has become a high
revenue earner for the networks. . Yea it deserves a barf when you think about it.
 
Jerry, was she making a funny, sarcastic gesture? OR, was she actually sick?
I thought you meant the first, but was not entirely sure. :rolleyes::LOL:

Oh, I don't know what to say about that game, you know which one. :oops:

But I did think of you. Sorry for the loyal fans. :rolleyes:o_O
 
No she didn't actually puke, merely giving her opinion of the nonsense and fluff that the NFL Station runs every game day, she was repeating the ftuff that had been presented countless time during the week..

Cowboy fans never get use to the flop, fall down, 'should we tackle or wave as he goes by.'
They keep telling us they have more talent than any other team.
It was a horribly coached game.
It was another systems failure: every part of the game was flopping around looking for a method to appear incompetent:
coaching, passing, don't know if the running game fell apart or not, they did not stick with it long enough to tell.

Again, no one wanted to win the game, 'us go out there and frolic.'
 
They keep telling us they have more talent than any other team.

They keep telling the National audience, the same thing about Dallas<
last year too, and then, especially even more, this year. They keep saying they should win.
And then, we see what happens.
It borders on the bizarre.

And especially yesterday, when half the Eagles team couldn't play, and their best Tight End went out injured early in the game.
But still, Dallas didn't make a move.....

It was another systems failure: every part of the game was flopping around looking for a method to appear incompetent:

That seems to be the best, or maybe the only explanation. Still very confusing and odd-seems to me.

Did you see the expression on The Head coach's face, during an explanation from a Ref?
The HC looked totally confused....as he usually does. Something very strange about it all.

I comprehend that no one else could, or would, work with their owner....after a line of Head Coaches had tried. This one accpeted the role and the money.....i guess. :unsure::rolleyes::oops:o_O

That didnt help the fans!
 
Don't watch football, don't watch hockey & really don't watch any sports at all! Why? One of the hockey players in our town has a contract for 50 million US over a 7 year contract. That is grouse! No one is worth that pile of money when there is so much poverty in this world. No wonder the "down & outers" are doing drugs & using guns to kill. They are angry at the injustices out there & there are many injustices out there.
 
I agree with most of your post, Packerjohn, the money is crazy and wrong,
and there sure is a lot of injustice,
though I am not certain that professional sports salaries fully explain some peoples hatred and violent actions.

I don't blame you for not watching. I could come up with many additional and equally
good reasons to not watch, and I respect your decision, completely. Along with the views.

For myself and some others, we have other reasons we watch.

For some, it's a tie to our past or to a relative we loved who is now gone.
For some, it is one of the few distractions we have, while facing loss of family and loss of health, and inability to go outdoors and do other activities.
 
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Packerjohn
I can't see anyone disagreeing with your post (#540)
Pro athletics pay scale is totally ridiculous-honestly!

Kail's point is well made-post #541
Many of us are limited in our ability to perfume meaningful activity, or have other reasons for watching this 'adolescence game.'
I get irritated that this silly game is an important activity on Sat (college ball) and Sunday's. (it passes the time, and is company?).
 
Did you see the expression on The Head coach's face, during an explanation from a Ref?
The HC looked totally confused....as he usually does. Something very strange about it all.

Do you think he's a zombie?
It could have been the thought of his five million dollar a year job disappearing.
 
Thanks, Jerry. I really need the humor and comradery, we get from bantering about this stuff, on this thread.

I don't know, he (the Head Coach there) might be a zombie. :ROFLMAO:
I hope he's been saving a lot of his income, for the future.:LOL:
 
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Oddly Hoffman completely ignored the Niners-Rams game on Sat. I'll recap that separately on my own in a separate post.

What We Learned in NFL Week 16
The Ravens clinched the top spot in the AFC, the Eagles beat the Cowboys, the Cardinals beat the Seahawks and Michael Thomas broke a celebrated record.
NYTimes by Benjamin Hoffman, Dec. 23, 2019

Here’s what we learned from Sunday’s games:
Lamar Jackson can take the next few weeks off. With their 11th consecutive win, the Ravens next meaningful game will not come until Jan. 11. Jackson has virtually sewn up the MVP. with 3,127 passing yards, 1,206 rushing yards and 43 total touchdowns. The 20-day wait between games could be hugely beneficial to RB Mark Ingram II, who left Sunday’s game with a calf injury.

The future looks bright in the NFC East (honest). The NFL’s worst division will end up with a “champion” that goes 9-7, at best, and depending on how things go for the Giants next week, it could have two teams with 12 or more losses. But nothing is more important than having a good QB, and there is plenty of reason to believe that all four teams are solid in that regard. The Cowboys are trying to lock Dak Prescott into a contract extension. The Eagles, who took the division lead on Sunday, believe Carson Wentz can get back to superstardom. At the bottom of the division, an overtime game this week between the Giants and the Redskins showed that those teams’ rookie QBs, Daniel Jones and Dwayne Haskins, might have a lot of good football ahead of them, as well.

Exciting does not equal good. Circled on the schedule remarkably early this season as a game to avoid at all costs, Sunday’s matchup between the Dolphins and the Bengals turned into something of a thriller. But the only thing that mattered on either side was the Bengals’ loss guaranteeing them the No. 1 pick in the 2020 draft, which will likely be used on Louisiana State’s Joe Burrow.

The playoff field is nearly set, but Week 17 is huge for Tennessee, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia and Dallas. Ten of 12 spots have been claimed, with mostly seeding to be decided in the season’s final week. But the Titans, who moved into the AFC’s second wild-card spot despite losing to New Orleans on Sunday, will have what amounts to a play-in game against the Texans, as they hold a tiebreaker over Pittsburgh. Dallas, meanwhile, threw away what was once a commanding lead in the NFC East by losing to Philadelphia, 17-9, and the Cowboys will need to beat the Redskins, and have the Eagles lose to the Giants, to squeak into the playoffs.

One* Sentence About Sunday’s Games. *Except when it takes more.

Chiefs 26, Bears 3. KC QB Patrick Mahomes made a point of counting to 10 with his fingers, seemingly in reference to his having fallen to the 10th pick in the 2017 draft — the same draft in which Chicago selected QB Mitchell Trubisky at No. 2. Beyond that there was little to note in a blowout that kept KC in the running for a first-round bye.

Ravens 31, Browns 15. There is no shame in losing to Baltimore. The Ravens have outscored their opponents by 368-172 during an 11-game winning streak. But Cleveland clinched its 12th consecutive losing season and was officially eliminated from the playoffs, so this one had to sting a little.

Saints 38, Titans 28. NO didn’t really click offensively until the third quarter, but it still ran up nearly 40 points against a likely playoff team. With 3 touchdown passes, Drew Brees widened his career lead over Tom Brady to 5 in a friendly competition that may come down to which QB retires first.

Cardinals 27, Seahawks 13. In a huge upset, Seattle lost control of its playoff seeding, but that could be the least of the team’s issues as RB Chris Carson sustained a hip injury that could keep him out of the playoffs. The team also will forge ahead without RBs Rashaad Penny (torn anterior cruciate ligament) and C.J. Prosise (broken arm). The Seahawks promptly lured Marshawn Lynch out of retirement to get them through the postseason.

Eagles 17, Cowboys 9. A big deal was made about Dak Prescott’s supposed Pro Bowl snub, but Dallas has gone 4-8 since its 3-0 start to the season, and has only beaten one team with a winning record.

Jets 16, Steelers 10. Pittsburgh’s Mason Rudolph replaced an ineffective Devlin Hodges at QB in Q2; then Hodges replaced an injured Rudolph in the fourth quarter. But it did not matter which mediocre backup QB was on the field in a loss that put Tennessee in charge of Pittsburgh’s playoff fate next week.

Colts 38, Panthers 6. Carolina’s RB Christian McCaffrey increased his NFL-leading total to 2,294 yards from scrimmage, putting him within 215 yards of Chris Johnson’s NFL record. But Indianapolis’s Nyheim Hines powered his team to victory with a day to remember as a punt returner, gaining 195 yards on three returns, two of which he ran back for touchdowns.

Falcons 24, Jaguars 12. Thanks to two Devonta Freeman touchdowns, and a fumbled kickoff return in between, Atlanta had enough points to win the game (14) before Jacksonville even snapped the ball on offense.

Raiders 24, Chargers 17. Oakland would require something of a miracle to secure the AFC’s second wild card spot, but the fact that the team has not been eliminated going into the season’s final week is nothing short of incredible considering its recent four-game losing streak in which the Raiders were outscored, 136-49.

Dolphins 38, Bengals 35 Miami's coaching staff said all season that the team was not tanking for draft position, while Cincinnati’s staff made no such claims. The Bengals were rewarded for their futility with the No. 1 pick in the 2020 draft, and the chance to find a long-term solution at QB.

Giants 41, Redskins 35. QB Daniel Jones was incredible, but a return to form from RB Saquon Barkley, who rushed for 189 yards and a touchdown, was just as important.

Broncos 27, Lions 17. Lions’ HC Matt Patricia’s career record dropped to 9-21-1 and even accounting for injuries sustained by Detroit’s offense this season, that is the type of record that gets a coach fired.
 
a game to avoid at all costs, Sunday’s matchup between the Dolphins and the Bengals turned into something of a thriller. But the only thing that mattered on either side was the Bengals’ loss guaranteeing them the No. 1 pick in the 2020 draft, which will likely be used on Louisiana State’s Joe Burrow.

All so true, yet so funny. Thank you for posting for us!
 
Summary Niners win vs Rams, Week 16 Dec 21, 2019
Last-minute FG by Robbie Gould wins it
by Lethe200

The 49ers (12-3) retook sole possession of first place in the NFC West and overall NFC supremacy for a day. Shockingly, the Seahawks (11-4) lost on Sunday to the AZ Cardinals (5-9-1). This sets up the final showdown in Week 17 for a division winner and first round bye. The 49ers visit Seattle’s CenturyLink Field Sunday 12/29 in a duel shifted into the prime-time spot.

If the 49ers win, they will earn the NFC West title and the #1 seed in the NFC playoffs. If they lose, they will be a wild-card team and the #5 seed.

The 49ers’ win vs the Rams (8-8) didn’t come easy. The Niners pass rush is blunted by injuries, and through most of the first half the Rams offense had their way, leading 21–10 until Niners LB Fred Warner snatched a Goff pass for 46 yards and his first-ever pick 6. SF went into halftime leading 24–21. Rookie Warner is the Niners’ leading tackler and a Pro Bowl alternate.

QB Jimmy G. had a dismal passer rating below 40 in the first half, but zoomed to a 142 rating in the second half despite shaky pass protection (injuries left rookies at center and RG against the Rams’ top-notch pass rush). LAR sacked him six times in just the second half alone.

The D buckled down to force the Rams to punt twice in the final 6 minutes. QB Garoppolo converted two separate 3rd-and-16 plays to keep the Niners last two scoring drives alive: Kendrick Bourne for an 18-yard completion with 1:17 remaining that resulted in a TD to tie the game; then a 46-yard completion to Emmanuel Sanders with 35 seconds to enable the winning FG.

Per ESPN, the 49ers have fallen behind by double digits four times this year. Garoppolo has led them to wins in three of those games – the best mark in the NFL – with the only loss being the Monday Night game against the Seahawks, a game that was pushed into OT with a fourth-quarter comeback.

In Garoppolo’s 25 career starts, he now has seven fourth-quarter comebacks and game-winning drives. Pair that with his 20-5 record (two of those wins came in New England), and you can understand why SF was willing to renegotiate with a long-term and lucrative contract for him.

It should be noted that the two games SF lost by missed FGs in the last minute, were by a rookie punter as ex-Bears punter Robbie Gould was out for 6 weeks with a hamstring injury. The Niners snatched up Gould when he was cut by the Bears. Although Gould expressed a desire to return to Chicago, who found they were unable to replace him with anyone as good, the Niners put a franchise tag on him for 2019 and he has certainly been worth it.

The Niners have over-achieved for 2019 (in 2017 they were 6–10; in 2018 they went 4-12 after Garoppolo went down in Game 4 with a season-ending injury). The team is heavy with rookies and this is Shanahan’s first stint as HC (although he has been to the Super Bowl with the Ravens, where his play-calling as OC did not distinguish itself). History has shown the publicity circus that is the SB is not kind to players unused to the frenzied spotlights all day, every day.

SF and Seattle are both banged up so the bye week is actually more important than the division title for the winner. It is the West Coast’s biggest rivalry and the only unknown factor will be the weather. It’s been a heavy wet winter so far, and playing conditions could favor Seattle, even though the Niners played well in the rain earlier this year vs the Redskins.
 
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If the 49ers win, they will earn the NFC West title and the #1 seed in the NFC playoffs. If they lose, they will be a wild-card team and the #5 seed.

It's so surprising that it comes down to this scenario, and in the final regular season game.

QB Jimmy G. had a dismal passer rating below 40 in the first half, but zoomed to a 142 rating in the second

I've thought all along, both in NE and for 49ers, that JimmyG is very inconsistent. I thought that would make him not good for a team to rely on, however, he's helped with those comeback wins, and when he is good, he is very, very good.

And his balanced rest of team is a huge plus! Especially WR Emmanuel Sanders.

I still lean toward Saints for going to the Superbowl.
High skill, high expereince, and ....after last years debacle, even some kharma is due.
 
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The internet link I had to watch last Saturday's games would've worked, but they wanted my CC number -- haha, I"ll pass on that. "There is no charge to use this service, but we just need your CC info to complete your registration." Right.

My neighbors down the road, who are 87 and 91, called me Saturday morning and invited me over to watch the Bills. (They have Spectrum cable, and the NFL Network is included). They are both big NFL fans so we all watched it together.

They have turned into Brady-haters so they were rooting for the Bills, lol.

No more Thursday night games this year apparently.
 
@Old Dummy
It's good to see you and to hear that you were able to see that game.
See my post about it, above, post # 534, maybe it is? Scroll up to it.

I had to "watch" that game...or rather, to follow along with the plays... by watching a "gamecast" online.
Have any of you tried that?

It's a VERY crude, and slow...diagram version....with short phrases and LONG waits in between....NO actual game pictures.... it was better than my other available options....:rolleyes:
 


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