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The coverage of the NFL draft has become ridiculous;
All four networks are carrying clips on draft on their national
and local newscast.
Fox will carry the draft LIVE tonight!
I'm a fan, but overkill?
It's a game folks, just a game, wait until they actually start the season-I don't need to be drowned in who's who, and what's what, in April.


Not Fox. ..According to Sporting News:

As originally scheduled, the 2020 NFL Draft will begin Thursday, April 23 at 8 p.m. ET and will broadcast live on ABC, ESPN and NFL Network. The same TV channels will carry Rounds 2-3 of the NFL Draft, scheduled to begin at 7 p.m. ET on Friday, as well as Rounds 4-7, starting at noon ET on Saturday.
 

Bonnie:
I stand corrected.
we know quarterbacks (2) that will grabbed , the other positions
I'm not familiar with and would have trouble maintaining interest.
However, if you watch, will you give us a summary of do did well and who flubbed?
 

Bonnie:
I stand corrected.
we know quarterbacks (2) that will grabbed , the other positions
I'm not familiar with and would have trouble maintaining interest.
However, if you watch, will you give us a summary of do did well and who flubbed?

The experts never seem to agree on who did well, so time will probably give us those answers.... will check their report grades though.
 
From the Washington Post on on first Draft Night ....

Home decor was the big winner of the night. Bengals’ coach Zac Taylor went the opposite route of Kingsbury, looking hidden inside the conference room of a Courtyard Marriott somewhere, as the Wall Street Journal’s Jason Gay noted.

:ROFLMAO:
 
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Surprising that Packers took a promising QB in 1st round of Draft, when Aaron Rodgers is still going strong, and he's young compared to Drew Breez and Tom Brady.
(And that pick will likely irritate Rodgers. The Packers even traded later picks, to trade UP, to get the younger QB. :unsure:)

Surprising that Patriots did NOT take a promising QB, in first several Picks.

I am glad (and a bit surprised) that Jerry Jones did NOT take a QB, to irritate his young very talented one he already has for Dallas Cowboys. ;)
Good decision they took a Receiver for him, instead.

Perplexing that the Giants, once again, took someone who would be there in later rounds, as their prized very high 1st round #4 overall Pick.

Or perhaps, NOT perplexing. :rolleyes::sneaky:

@Old Dummy
DO NOT read this post, until Labor Day. :ROFLMAO:
 
Was looking at Brady's bio (hope I remember correctly)
nine Super Bowls, won six and the saga continues.
Tampa may have Brady and Zonk, but they don't have the
horses to be in Super Bowl

Aaron Rodgers with his Fu Man Chu look scares me, but he
scared me every time he played against Cowboys. Aaron
is 36...

Jerry happy, happy, happy he got to be on TV, happy, happy, happy

His 250 million dollar yacht: sleeps 6 (or 8), has a crew of twenty?
He says he bought it (?) can't grasp whey a man in his middle seventies would make such a purchase. (Is there a return clause when jerry dies?)
That makes no sense, remember 'Upstairs-Downstairs' where the domestics far outnumber household members.

Two maybe three teams are going to cut QB's for new arrivals,
think BB might be waiting to grab one of these guys -he always lurks around, snatching has-beens and pumping Patriot Blood into them.
 
Surprising that Packers took a promising QB in 1st round of Draft, when Aaron Rodgers is still going strong, and he's young compared to Drew Breez and Tom Brady.
(And that pick will likely irritate Rodgers. The Packers even traded later picks, to trade UP, to get the younger QB. :unsure:)

Surprising that Patriots did NOT take a promising QB, in first several Picks.

I am glad (and a bit surprised) that Jerry Jones did NOT take a QB, to irritate his young very talented one he already has for Dallas Cowboys. ;)
Good decision they took a Receiver for him, instead.

Perplexing that the Giants, once again, took someone who would be there in later rounds, as their prized very high 1st round #4 overall Pick.

Or perhaps, NOT perplexing. :rolleyes::sneaky:

@Old Dummy
DO NOT read this post, until Labor Day. :ROFLMAO:

Okay, I didn't. :cool:

You doing okay?
 
Tampa may have Brady and Zonk, but they don't have the
horses to be in Super Bowl

They drafted some horses, but I have no idea if they are the right ones or not.


Two maybe three teams are going to cut QB's for new arrivals,
think BB might be waiting to grab one of these guys

Good point!
He surely wouldn't offer anything in trade for them and their present contracts. He would wait till they are cut, for sure.
He's got to add another QB, of some semblance or other.
They just have 2 back-up QB's and no Starter. LOL
One of those 2 might be the Starter; no one will ever know how BB thinks.
 
Thanks for asking, OldD. It's been a difficult time, but hanging in here.....

Am I allowed to read this ^ post?
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Aw, yes! :giggle:
You are actually welcome to read any posts you choose, but save the ones you want to, till Labor Day, when your outdoors and garden season is behind you, and you feel desperate again. :ROFLMAO:

LOL, I'm always desperate.

You: "Difficult" because of the forced isolation? I hear ya on that. I went and jawboned with one of my lunch buddies today who lives a few miles from me. Another neighbor guy was there and we had a grand old time doing what old men do.

That's the extent of my social life for the past 6 weeks and it ain't cuttin' it.
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I'll post separately a few articles about the 2020 NFL draft. Articles all seem to focus on just a few of the picks, for brevity's sake.

2020 N.F.L. Draft: What We Learned
Green Bay delivered the shock of the night drafting Jordan Love as a potential successor to Aaron Rodgers, Miami’s rebuild is coming to fruition and New England is still New England.
NY Times 25Apr2020

The 85th N.F.L. draft might have lacked the glitz of the Las Vegas Strip and bro-hugs with Roger Goodell, but the first virtual draft in league history still had its football pyrotechnics. There were a few chip shots, like quarterback Joe Burrow getting picked first overall by the Cincinnati Bengals. But there were also plenty of other surprises and intrigue — not all of it generated by the Raiders.

Here’s what we learned:

Aaron Rodgers now knows how Brett Favre felt.
Favre, umm, did not take it kindly when Green Bay drafted Rodgers with the 24th pick in 2005. The Packers traded up to select Jordan Love at No. 26, not because they envision him succeeding Rodgers this season, or even in 2021. The job still belongs to Rodgers, 36, who is under contract through 2023. But Green Bay, at a prime draft spot, did not ignore other areas of need — wide receiver, especially — so that Love can back up Rodgers indefinitely.

It is an ideal situation for Love to learn and listen, provided Rodgers — and Green Bay fans — treat Love better than Favre did him as a rookie. Rodgers spent three years backing up Favre before taking over at quarterback, and now Love might do the same to Rodgers.

Perhaps Rodgers can fend off Love, as Tom Brady did in New England with Jimmy Garoppolo, forcing Green Bay to deal the Utah State quarterback for other assets. The Packers did not improve their 2020 team on Thursday night, and Rodgers — when not wondering why the team hasn’t picked an offensive skill player in the first round since, well, him — surely could question how he now fits into the Packers’ long-term plans.

The Dolphins tanking risk paid off.
The Dolphins, despite razing the roster, won a few games last season — and still drafted the quarterback, Tua Tagovailoa, it was reportedly tanking for. That’s some good karma right there.

Miami’s grand plan started taking shape during free agency, when it lured cornerback Byron Jones, linebackers Kyle Van Noy and Elandon Roberts and the defensive end Emmanuel Ogbah. But it did not truly come to fruition until Thursday night, when the team could expend some of the draft capital it had compiled.

Miami took Tagovailoa at No. 5 and their future left tackle, Austin Jackson of Southern California, at No. 18 before trading down and adding an athletic corner, Noah Igbinoghene of Auburn, at No. 30. And they’re not done: The Dolphins have three picks Friday, when the second and third rounds are held, and nine (!) on Saturday, for rounds 4 through 7.

Jackson will bolster an offensive line that allowed 58 sacks last season, and Igbinoghene slides into the most improved secondary in the A.F.C. East. But Tagovailoa is the centerpiece, and for a team that’s been searching for a quarterback since Dan Marino retired, he represents an altogether fitting choice.

By shedding talent last off-season, the Dolphins chose an unpopular rebuilding path. They were chided and lampooned. It was a risk because weird things happen in the N.F.L. and even bad teams win sometimes. In the end, that strategy led them to Tagovailoa, who, because of health and durability concerns, is hardly a safe pick. But the Dolphins were rewarded for their aggressiveness once, and now they hope they will be again.

The Patriots played to type.
The Tom Brady era may be over in New England, but don’t expect coach Bill Belichick to change. The Patriots had the 23rd pick in the first round, but rather than use the spot to upgrade at, say, quarterback, it traded the pick to the Los Angeles Chargers and received a second-round pick (37th overall) and a third-round pick (71st overall) in return.

There’s a method to Belichick’s trades. The Patriots had traded a second-round pick last season to get wide receiver Mohamed Sanu, and have not made a first-round pick in four of the past eight years. Now they have 13 picks over the next two days of the draft.

But as NYTimes colleague Bill Pennington noted, the Patriots will probably have to trade a top player to create salary cap space. They currently have about $1 million in cap space, which isn’t enough to sign even their incoming draft class. But packaging, for example, the All-Pro guard Joe Thuney with a valuable 2021 pick would free up $15 million in cap space.

The SEC remained dominant.
The ultimate currency in any debate about the strongest college conference is how many players end up in the N.F.L. This year, the Southeastern Conference was undeniably the winner, with 15 of its players selected with the first 32 picks of the draft. Nine of those picks came from L.S.U., the national champions, and Alabama. Auburn and Georgia each had two players selected. Three Ohio State players were chosen Thursday, including the second (Chase Young) and third (Jeff Okudah) picks over all.
 
A second article on the 2020 NFL draft, below.

BTW, local talk about the SF Niners' draft choices is that they are VERY happy with their top 2 picks. Javon Kinlaw was selected to replace All-Pro DT DeForest Buckner, who was traded to create cap space and get return draft picks.

Apparently the great Von Miller, OLB for the Denver Broncos, went absolutely ballistic upon hearing the Niners grabbed Kinlaw. He was sure GM Elway was going to take a receiver (which Elway did) but Miller desperately wished for Kinlaw. The Broncs' D is aging and porous, and apparently Miller considers Kinlaw an "instant impact" player. The Niners had the #1 rated D in the NFL before trading away Buckner.

Back in the 2019 draft the AZ Cards chose QB Kyler Murray as the first draft pick, but the Niners had traded for the #2 spot because they were sure AZ would take a QB, and SF desperately wanted Nick Bosa, Joey Bosa's little brother. Nick rewarded the Niners' faith: PFF named Bosa as their 2019 Defensive Rookie of the Year. He totaled 80 pressures with 10 sacks, 18 QB hits, and 52 QB pressures. SF fans hope we see Kinlaw competing for the 2020 DRoY.

The Niners #2 pick went to WR Brandon Aiyuk, Arizona State. They traded Emmanuel Sanders (again, a cap space issue; Sanders was QB Garoppolo's WR of choice in 2019) so needed a replacement. Aiyuk was one of the top three WR choices in a draft unusually deep with potentially good WRs.
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NFL draft winners and losers: Ravens' wisdom to the new Aaron Rodgers
This year’s event was a welcome tonic to fans deprived of live sports. But not every team covered themselves in glory over the weekend
London Guardian U.S. 26 Apr 2020

The 2020 NFL draft wasn’t quite a live sporting event, but it was enough to distract fans from the global pandemic that has kept major leagues indefinitely suspended. Here are the teams that we think did the best and worst jobs of improving their future.

Winners:
Baltimore Ravens
: Baltimore didn’t have many needs after winning 14 games in 2019, but general manager Eric DeCosta and head coach John Harbaugh maximized their positioning during the draft’s first two days.

After losing linebackers Patrick Onwuasor and Josh Bynes in free agency, the Ravens tapped rangy LSU linebacker Patrick Queen with their first pick (28th overall). Queen is undersized for the position, but possesses blistering sideline-to-sideline speed and strong pass coverage abilities. After Queen, Baltimore added Ohio State running back JK Dobbins, an exciting addition to Baltimore’s record-breaking rushing attack who should effectively spell 30-year-old starter Mark Ingram and backup Gus Edwards.

Instead of Queen or Dobbins, it was third-round pick Justin Madubuike that excited draft analysts the most. Some experts thought the brawny Texas A&M defensive tackle would go early in the second round, but he instead fell to Baltimore at pick No 71. When asked what his favorite part of playing football is, Madubuike told USA Today “I love putting my hand in somebody’s throat and pushing them all the way backward.” Add in fellow third-round pick Devin Duvernay, who logged 106 catches and nine touchdown receptions last year at Texas, and the Ravens left the 2020 draft looking like the biggest winners.

Dallas Cowboys: The question that vexes every team when drafting is whether you select the best player available or the player that fits your biggest need. The Cowboys entered the draft with one of the league’s most loaded offenses but still spent their first-round pick on Oklahoma wide receiver CeeDee Lamb, one of three standout receivers in the 2020 class. Dallas had more glaring needs at defensive back and defensive line, but wily owner and team president Jerry Jones decided on Lamb, who has the explosiveness, strength and route precision of a future superstar.

The gamble on Lamb may be worth it after Dallas unexpectedly landed Alabama cornerback Trevon Diggs in the second round. Diggs is a former receiver who converted to defensive back and excelled in 2019 with three interceptions, 11 pass breakups and is a player many scouts considered a first-round talent. Third-round pick Neville Gallimore is a mammoth interior defensive lineman that Dallas may have lucked into at pick No82 and fourth-round cornerback Reggie Robinson gives them depth at one of their weakest positions.

Indianapolis Colts: The Colts drafted some of the best players available and filled some of their biggest needs even without a first-round pick. Second-round pick Michael Pittman is one of the many stud receivers of this draft class; the USC product is a sturdy 6ft 4in with excellent hands and enough speed to become the Colts’ top receiver within the next few seasons. Running back Jonathan Taylor is one of the most successful college players of all-time – he became the first player in NCAA history to rush for over 6,000 yards in a three-year span – and possesses the strength and field vision consistent with the NFL’s most successful running backs. There is some concern about the amount of carries he took in college and whether that will hurt his durability, but his explosiveness and physicality give him one of the highest ceilings of any skill player in the draft.

Fifth-round selection Jacob Eason certainly looks the part of a future NFL starting quarterback – the Washington product stands 6ft 6in and has excellent arm strength – but must overcome the streaky tendencies that affected his 2019 season. He won’t play next year, but head coach Frank Reich may work to groom him as Indianapolis’s future starting QB.

Losers:
Green Bay Packers
: It’s impossible to anoint any true “losers” before the drafted players begin their NFL careers, but Green Bay’s selections were extremely confusing for a team looking to win a title while the 36-year-old Aaron Rodgers is still one of the game’s best players. Widely expected to pick one of the many elite receivers in the draft, general manager Brian Gutekunst instead traded up from pick No 30 to select Utah State QB Jordan Love, who the team presumably expect to replace Rodgers in two or three years.

In the second round, Gutekunst and coach Matt LaFleur drafted bruising running back AJ Dillon even though the Packers already have two proven rushers in Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams. Perhaps the front office expects Jones and Williams to leave town once they become free agents after next season, but it was still odd to see Green Bay spend their top two picks on positions they didn’t need to address.

Any angry Packers fan should remember the 2012 assessment of the Seattle Seahawks draft that called Russell Wilson “the worst pick in the entire draft” – before declaring this draft a failure. Even so, there doesn’t appear to be a player besides third-round tight end Josiah Deguara who looks primed to make an impact in 2020 for GBay.

Las Vegas Raiders: The Raiders maintained their eccentric draft-day tendencies with a host of confusing selections despite holding two first-round picks. Speedy Alabama receiver Henry Ruggs was one of the three elite players at the position (along with Lamb and Jerry Jeudy) but considered the least polished of the three. It was a forgivable selection, but few thought that Ruggs would be the first of a historically deep receiver class off the board.

It was eight picks after Ruggs when the Raiders stumped anybody who follows the draft: defensive back Damon Arnette was a strong defender on a loaded Ohio State defense, but most draftniks didn’t have him as a first-round player. Time will tell if Arnette becomes one of the better players on the Raiders secondary, but Mayock probably could have traded the 19th overall pick and stockpiled assets instead of spending it on a player nobody valued highly.

While the Raiders are always one of the most entertaining teams to follow on draft day, their inconsistency remains the only consistent thing about them.

Denver Broncos: Team president John Elway clearly wanted to supply new starting quarterback Drew Lock with weapons, which explains his selection of receivers Jerry Jeudy and KJ Hamler with Denver’s first two picks. The problem is that he didn’t do much to assure that Lock will be properly protected and given adequate time to get the ball to his new studs. While Elway drafted his center of the future in LSU’s Lloyd Cushenberry, Denver didn’t select an offensive tackle. That means the inconsistent, penalty-prone Garett Bolles will likely be the starting left tackle in Week 1.
 
Those are interesting posts, @Lethe200
and @Bonnie

He's got to add another QB, of some semblance or other.
They just have 2 back-up QB's and no Starter. LOL
One of those 2 might be the Starter; no one will ever know how BB thinks.

Now, after the NFL Draft is finished,
having since then added 2 Undrafted Rookie QB's,
the Pats have 4 back-up QB's and no starter. :ROFLMAO:

But we can always repeat my understatement, above..... No one will ever know how BB thinks.


You: "Difficult" because of the forced isolation? I hear ya on that.

For me, it's "difficult" times, for other reasons, but I do hear you, and I'm glad you got to interact with someone other than/or in addition to, us ! ;)
 
Another update, including other teams at the bottom of the article:

Patriots passing on quarterbacks in NFL draft 'not by design' says Bill Belichick
Belichick says plan to draft signal-caller ‘didn’t work out’
Reuters and Guardian sport: 26 Apr 2020

The New England head coach, Bill Belichick, has said not taking a quarterback in the Patriots’ first post-Tom Brady draft “was not by design,” but he has confidence in Jarrett Stidham and Brian Hoyer.

The Patriots selected 10 players in the 2020 NFL Draft, but did not recruit a signal-caller to compete with Stidham and Hoyer for the starting job. Brady, who led the Pats to six Super Bowl titles, signed with Tampa Bay last month.

“The bottom line is that we’re evaluating that position along with all the other ones,” Belichick told reporters Saturday. “We’ve drafted [quarterbacks] in multiple years, multiple points in the draft,” Belichick added. “Didn’t work out last three days. That wasn’t by design. It could have, but it didn’t.”

Belichick’s current starting options are Stidham, a fourth-round pick in 2019, and 34-year-old Hoyer, who returned to Foxboro last month on a one-year contract. “I like both those players,” Belichick said. “We’ve had Brian [Hoyer] a couple times. I think he certainly gives us a very solid level of play. We have a lot of confidence in him. On second-year prospect Stidham, Belichick said: “Jarrett had a good year last year. He improved a lot. We’ll see where that takes him. I have confidence in both players.”

ESPN’s Adam Schefter has reported that the Patriots will sign Brian Lewerke, an undrafted quarterback from Michigan State, in free agency. Lewerke passed for 3,079 yards with 17 touchdowns and 13 interceptions in 13 games for the Spartans as a 2019 senior. He is ranked first in the school’s history in total offense with 9,548 yards. Stidham appeared in three games as an NFL rookie, completing two passes for 14 yards with one interception.

The Patriots’ highest draft pick this year was safety Kyle Dugger, taken at No 37. The franchise also signed tight ends Devin Asiasi and Dalton Keene, plus three linebackers and three offensive linemen. Kicker Justin Wohrwasser, taken in the fifth round, has already attracted controversy with a tattoo, which he has denied represents a right-wing militia group.

Elsewhere, NFL teams are making free-agency moves following the completion of the draft. The New Orleans Saints have re-signed versatile quarterback Taysom Hill to a two-year, $21m contract, and are reportedly close to agreeing a surprise one-year deal with Jameis Winston, released by Tampa Bay to make way for Brady.

The Chicago Bears have signed Ledarius Mack, the brother of star linebacker Khalil Mack. Undrafted defensive end Ledarius collected eight sacks and led Buffalo with 12 tackles for loss in his senior year. “With Khalil’s brother, that’s definitely something that we’re looking forward to,” the Bears general manager, Ryan Pace, said. “It will be unique having two brothers on the same team.”

LSU tight end Thaddeus Moss, the son of Hall of Fame wide receiver Randy, will sign with Washington. The title-winning Tigers had a record 14 players drafted this year.

With their All-Pro T Joe Staley retiring after 13 yrs, 49ers acquired Redskins’ star tackle Trent Williams in exchange for draft picks.

No one can figure out why the Bears added more tight ends in the draft. They now have 10 on the team roster.

Already, attention is turning to 2021. Clemson quarterback Trevor Lawrence has been installed as the heavy favorite to be next year’s No 1 pick, ahead of fellow QBs Justin Fields (Ohio State) and D’Eriq King (Miami), and Oregon offensive tackle Penei Sewell.
 
Lethe 200
We've become dependent on you the NFL breaddown as a whole;
we can muddle through our teams of our choice, the entire caliber of the other teams is a mystery-that is where you are valued.
Brady and Zonk caused a big splash in the NFC South.
The question is Matt Ryan, can he out dual Brady, he did for half a game in the Super Bowl.
Now, I don't think that can sweep the Saints of Falcons.
(The Panthers are an unknown.)
I will say, there are some old QB's in that league.

I have to go with the Saints.

Waiting for your rebuttal.

Cowboys may win division, look for trades of the so-so receivers for defensive backs. If jerry can be controlled.
 


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