Germany says asylum seekers are suspected in New Years Eve assaults

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BERLIN — At least 21 asylum seekers from the Middle East and North Africa are suspects in the New Year’s Eve rampage of sexual assaults and thefts in the German city of Cologne, authorities said, as word emerged of similar acts in Finland and Sweden as well as other German cities — including the alleged gang rape of two teenage girls by four Syrian men.

Officials said it was not clear whether the attacks had been coordinated. But the broadening allegations were rapidly escalating into a full-blown crisis that on Friday engulfed Cologne’s police chief, Wolfgang Albers, who was suspended due to “lost trust” in his force. The mounting scandal, meanwhile, was quickly deepening public outrage, prompting calls for tighter controls on newcomers while threatening to ignite a new wave of anti-refugee sentiment in Europe.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/asylum-seekers-suspected-in-rash-of-new-years-eve-assaults/2016/01/08/af1ed4c8-b584-11e5-8abc-d09392edc612_story.html
 

That is certainly huge "culture clash" to say the least. :eek:mg1:
 

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This is just the beginning for Europe...especially Germany. As frustration over language and customs differences, and limited employment opportunities for the majority of these refugees, begins to set in, there are going to be some real clashes.
 
I agree with you too, Phil. These men have no respect for women due to their culture and it's only going to get worse. One of the men told the police he was invited there, so the police better be nice to him.
 
If it happens here, we'll put a stop to it quickly, many of us can defend ourselves and our fellow citizens with our firearms in such a situation.
 
Misty said:
I agree with you too, Phil. These men have no respect for women due to their culture and it's only going to get worse. One of the men told the police he was invited there, so the police better be nice to him.
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Hoo, hoo ... bang, zoom!

That's why I could never be a cop - I'd lose control over these animals.
 
In my opinion, this sort of "culture clash" should have been foreseen, and is one of the reasons it isn't a good idea to just dump thousands of people from an entirely different and arguably violent culture and with entirely different values and language right into the middle of another culture. I just hope the US figures it out in time.
 
German broadcaster apologizes for delaying the story about migrant assaults.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1022911/german-broadcaster-sorry-for-slow-reporting-on-mob-assaults/

Cologne mayor criticized for victim blaming.

http://news.yahoo.com/cologne-mayor-mocked-advice-avoiding-sex-assaults-170328263.html

This political correctness signaled there were problems afoot. Girls told not to wear short skirts at school. Note this story 6 months old.

http://www.thelocal.de/20150626/refugee-school-calls-for-uniform-modesty

But the mainstream politically correct media has ignored or down played this and other reports of migrant crime.
 
CNN was full of reports, this morning, about protests in Cologne, Germany, over these incidents. They were bringing out the riot police, and water cannons.
 
Don M. said:
CNN was full of reports, this morning, about protests in Cologne, Germany, over these incidents. They were bringing out the riot police, and water cannons.
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From story suppression to riots. That worked out well.

Also some in the media are finally starting to cover this and question things. Like multiple cities in Europe reported similar attacks with the assailants having similar description. Yet it was a week after the holidays those stories are surfacing.
 
Here, the government is talking about a lengthy "vetting" process before any of these refugees are allowed to come to the U.S. Germany appears to have just opened its borders and let the flow come in pretty much unchecked. What better way for ISIS, or any other fanatics, to infiltrate that nation, and migrate all over Europe???

Sadly, i think there are going to be a lot of future confrontations, and acts of violence, as a result.
 
Don M. said:
Here, the government is talking about a lengthy "vetting" process before any of these refugees are allowed to come to the U.S. Germany appears to have just opened its borders and let the flow come in pretty much unchecked. What better way for ISIS, or any other fanatics, to infiltrate that nation, and migrate all over Europe???

Sadly, i think there are going to be a lot of future confrontations, and acts of violence, as a result.
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I still do not get how the US can truly "vet" people who have no papers, no proof of identity, and whose country/ies are in such a shambles as to be almost nonexistent. In order to properly "vet" people and figure out who they really are, you have to have background information to compare with what they say. How're you gonna get background information from Syria, etc., where such information has probably been destroyed, if indeed it ever existed. Seems to me that people could say they were anybody at all and it would be hard, if not impossible, to disprove.
 
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I still do not get how the US can truly "vet" people who have no papers, no proof of identity, and whose country/ies are in such a shambles as to be almost nonexistent. In order to properly "vet" people and figure out who they really are, you have to have background information to compare with what they say. How're you gonna get background information from Syria, etc., where such information has probably been destroyed, if indeed it ever existed. Seems to me that people could say they were anybody at all and it would be hard, if not impossible, to disprove.
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Vetting is tough even for employers with applicants getting friends and previous employers to lie for them. I say monitor the assimilation process, how is the refugee adapting. Are they learning and adopting their culture with regularity or without difficulty. Do they understand the law, their responsibilities, duties etc. They have plenty of time to study. Even in a refugee center are they honestly trying to live in western culture. Can they behave themselves. Like a rat in the cage study them like a scientist.
 
Through the tragic plight of the refugees, ISIS has the golden opportunity to infiltrate western countries and perpetrate its terrorism. I agree, how well can our government really vet these people?
 
Well, I doubt any of you will have to worry about refugees. Europe is taking many and the rest of the innocents will have died from starvation and disease or been murdered by ISIS by the time the US decides to take a few, if it ever does. :rolleyes: Then all you'll have to worry is the next American who goes wacko or gets pissed off and shoots a few dozen more.
 
Hmmm. As I recall, Dr Mengele made quite a career for himself studying human rats in cages. One of my Holocaust survivor
relatives showed me her scars. She was twelve years old when her camp was liberated. Our countries wouldn't take them in

earlier, but sent the boats back to Hitler's Germany. There are always risks. In a humanitarian crisis of this magnitude, to do nothing is to forfeit our humanity in the name of fear. Then the terrorists will have already won. I refuse to live in fear. I

support my gov'ts choice to admitted carefully vetted children and families. Once we dehumanise the unfortunate it is a slippery slope. Too often in the past, "confining and or studying" have led to appalling acts of abuse, culminating in torture and

genocide. If we do nothing, we are complicit in the deaths of thousands of innocents. I am not a Pharisee.
 
In detail how does determine if a migrant is worthy of permanent residency in a country they voluntarily chose to travel where one of the only tools is observation in a refugee center? They are the ones that traveled to another country where many didn't even knock on the door and came right on in.

And the leap to Dr Mengele, puhleeasseee Too many are misusing analogies & comparisons to the Nazi era period, that's one opinion fine but doesn't make it right or fitting. There are similarities in most of history. Observing rats or mice in a cage has lead to many scientific discoveries and breakthroughs. Even the rock band The Talking Heads talked about rats in cages and pyscho killers. Marketers and governments study people everyday compiling too much data actually but they do it.

Point is migrants that cannot be documented need to be subject to a process to see if they are worthy of entrance or residency. What should that process be. Observation is tool that is readily available NOW.
 
Well, a proponent of the scientific method could take tablet in hand and observe the antics of the Great Socialist Horde to the north of America. The rats of Canuckistan, if you will. Lol. Within a couple of weeks we shall have taken in over ten thousand

Syrian refugee families. By the end of 2016, we shall harbour at least twenty five thousand. Quite a Petrie dish. It should be interesting to hear the findings. As for the comparison to Nazi Germany and the ensuing abuses, being specious, there are

elderly survivors of the Holocaust who are vocal in their insistence that such similarities exist.
 
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