Get Ready, Florida

Happyflowerlady said:
Again, hangover, this is NOT supposed to be a political thread, and ALL political discussions are to be kept strictly in the political section of this forum.
We have a lot of nice people in this forum, and mixed political viewpoints, but you are the only one that I see here throwing in Trump-bashing where it has no business being, and even your own friends here are trying to tell you that this is NOT appropriate. Get a Clue, buddy !

Also, I do not understand why you are bringing karma into the discussion at all. Karma is basically the retribution that comes back to a person from committing evil deeds.
You are strongly implying that this hurricane will continue to devastate the people living on the Atlantic coastline, and that they are having the hurricane because of karma.
Surely you are NOT suggesting that all of these people who suffered through hurricane Harvey, and will soon be being overwhelmed with hurricane Irma, are DESERVING this hurricane ?
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Obviously I put a burr in your bonnet the way Trump does with me. I was replying to Butterfly, it wasn't anything to do with you. Yet you want to look down your nose at me. Here's a clue, my thoughts on what's causing all these disasters are just as relevant as anyone else's. But maybe if others considered the possibility of Trump's negative treatment of so many being the cause, more disasters wouldn't be on the way. There's hurricane Jose behind Irma, and the whole west is on fire. There are 68 wild fires in Montana alone. Many more in California, Oregon, and Washington. There are earthquakes all around Yellowstone in Wyoming and Idaho. Is it really going to take a super volcano eruption in Yellowstone, before Karma is considered?

It's like Sodom and Gomorrah.....those people didn't consider Karma either.
 
Butterfly said:
Oh, God!! Anything but SPAM!!! When I was a kid, Spam was a "we're really short of money this week" food, and for a while when I was a little bitty kid we got Spam a LOT. I loathe Spam, and though I voiced my opinion of Spam, nobody cared -- around my house you ate what was put in front of you or you didn't eat at all. I got really good at eating around the Spam and at surreptitiously sneaking the stuff to the dog. I got a lot of lectures of how children starving in Japan were somehow harmed by my refusal to eat Spam. Nobody could ever really explain to me how that worked, but I got told "don't talk back to your mother" when I asked how that worked. I'm still trying to figure out how my hatred of Spam hurt children starving in Japan.
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The Japanese made the tin cans that Spam came in possibly. So therefore their economy suffered and the Japanese starved.

When my mother told me that, I would just say, send it over there.

But now? I love the stuff. I bake it with cloves just like a regular ham. That's all it is anyway is pressed ham.

Now that I have to buy my own groceries and have fed my own family, I realized how tough it must have been on poor families trying their best to stretch the food dollar any way they could.

Just tell the kid you don't have to eat your lunch if you don't want to.

Then they will show up at dinner/supper with their napkin tucked in and knife and fork at the ready and everything tastes good.
 

I've heard that a case of Spam is a considered a nice wedding present in Japan. Too bad I got rid of all that Spam that I bought for that hurricane back then. I could have been invited to a Japanese wedding and had nothing to bring. Bummer.

Latest news is that Irma is turning slightly to the east, so might not go directly over us. My Protestant guilt is acting up again.....should I be happy about that knowing that it means it will hit someone else?

We've done everything we can do to get ready. It's just wait and wait and wait now.
 
Back-to-back hurricanes. People may be a bit panicking because scenes of Texas flooding and damages were everywhere on TV and web and now this. I wish them luck! DH just got back from Florida on Tuesday because his father had passed away. It might be his last real trip. He doesn't tolerate travel well, but felt like he had to go.
 
helenbacque said:
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How interesting. At my dinner table, it was children in China who were starving. I never heard of the ones in Japan. I also wondered how me not cleaning my plate would affect them but didn't dare ask. You were brave.
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We had the starving African children. According to my mother, a whole African village could live for a month on what I left on my plate. I think it depended on where your church supported missionaries. The Catholics tended toward China and the rest of the Orient, the Protestants toward Africa. My father told me once that he was chided with "the starving Armenians" on a regular basis but apparently that had run out before I was born.
 
Pappy said:
Had trouble sleeping last night. Kept thinking if we are going to have anything left when we go back in October. We can't stay here, in NY, as the Campgrounds close on the 15th Oct. Our only hope is that it turns off shore a few miles. We are about 5-8 miles inland from the Ocean. I just realized......we could very well be homeless. :(
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I'm so sorry Pappy. I hope the worst doesn't happen to you. Good thoughts and prayers coming your way.
 
OK, it's coming right at us! No, it's moved to the east! No, it's shifted back around to the west! No, it's coming right at us! Every time I turn on the TV, it's a different story.

I'm so tired of this already, I'm about to start making tequila and tuna cocktails. With a cheese ball on top. And if I had any of that Spam left from the last time, I'd put some of that in, too. Death by Spam.
 
Pappy said:
Had trouble sleeping last night. Kept thinking if we are going to have anything left when we go back in October. We can't stay here, in NY, as the Campgrounds close on the 15th Oct. Our only hope is that it turns off shore a few miles. We are about 5-8 miles inland from the Ocean. I just realized......we could very well be homeless. :(
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Prayers for the safety of your home.
 
jujube said:
OK, it's coming right at us! No, it's moved to the east! No, it's shifted back around to the west! No, it's coming right at us! Every time I turn on the TV, it's a different story.

I'm so tired of this already, I'm about to start making tequila and tuna cocktails. With a cheese ball on top. And if I had any of that Spam left from the last time, I'd put some of that in, too. Death by Spam.
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Amazed at your sense of humour. Wishing you and all those who could be affected the very best.
 
It's possible in New York State to have a "hard frost" anytime after 10/15.
Pretty sure that's the reason they shut it down.
Also they need time to get the water lines drained and winterized.
 
mimento mori said:
I am sorry @hangover but you seem to have missed the entire point of Karma. If I punched someone for no reason then I would be setting up a negative situation whereby I and ONLY I will suffer from it. If Trump's negative karma has ANYTHING to do with natural disasters then your own negative vibrations in the ethereal dimensions is going to cause a collapse in the time space continuum! Karma can be a real b****h sometimes especially when you apply it to everyone else and take no note of it as it might apply to yourself.
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I don't think I missed the point at all....Consider that there were many innocent Germans during Hitler's Karma, that were against him, but they still paid for his actions. As far as myself paying for Trump's Karma, I think the whole country is paying, including myself.

The disasters just keep coming.....
http://idahostatejournal.com/news/local/earthquakes-since-saturday-night-worst-case-scenario-is-destructive-
temblor/article_00c16fb0-0a6b-58de-bd24-3d1a154ec6d0.html
There has been many earthquakes in Wyoming also.....the article says it has nothing to do with Yellowstone, but that maybe to keep people from panicking. Yellowstone is a super volcano. If it goes off, kiss this country goodbye.

I don't like being a gloomy Gus, but dang, how long before this country finally admits climate change is not "fake news"?
I know something about Karma, because I smoked for 40 years, and now I have to get a lung transplant.
 
Karma has a spiritual aspect attached relating to deeds...specifically Buddhism. "Whatever a man sows, this he will also reap" is Biblical btw. Galatians 6:7
 
Irma, Jose and now Katia!

Hurricane Katia is in the southern Gulf of Mexico. Forecasters with the National Hurricane Center expect the Category 1 storm to strengthen to almost a Category 3 storm before making landfall in Mexico. (Image via NOAA)
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With all that's going on, this year may well go down as one of the worst in decades. Thousands of people have lost everything they own, and few have the necessary insurance to recover. Within the next week, Florida and the SE coastal area may be hit harder than Houston was last week.

When I read about these events, it makes me glad that we settled in the "Boring" Midwest, where outside of a rare tornado, we have few natural events that cause major destruction.
 
The closest hurricane that I had ever came close as a pilot to was in mid-August of '92. I had flown down to Miami from New York and stayed over that night. Andrew was expected to make land in Miami two days later. I was scheduled to fly to LA the next morning at 6:00 a.m. Miami International made a statement that they would be closing the airport at 8:00 p.m. on that same day. Without spelling out all the dribble, the FAA only allows planes to takeoff and land with "X" amount of maximum crosswinds. That morning when we left for LA, we already had crosswinds of 28 kts., which is getting really close to shutting down the runways. When I reached LA, I was informed that Miami was closing at 2:00 p.m. due to high crosswinds. Yes, a lot of passengers got stuck. Andrew was expected to hit Miami head on, but instead, hit just south in Homestead, which it devastated. Tailwinds and headwinds are one thing, but taking off or landing in very high crosswinds is a whole different adventure.

Hurricane Andrew (Cat.5)

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High crosswinds:

 
I don't trust the forecast. Not 100%. They are counting on that cold front to cause the storm to make a hard right turn. If they are off by just a little bit this storm could end up in the Gulf. I won't feel relieved until it's north of us.
 

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