Going clear; Scientology and the Prison of Belief

Mr. Ed

Mr. Ed

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Ron Hubbards controversial church of scientology was developed to take money from members as a means for acquiring various levels of wellness. Hubbard believed he had lived multiple lives in the Caribbean and the Bahama's.

Scientology participants sat face to face, the auditor and the subject rows upon rows of desk five layers deep. The subject holds two open mouth tubes each connected to electric wires to measure subject response.

Scientology is a journey into the mind of Ron Hubbard and the further you go with Scientology the more you become Ron Hubbard.
 

Nathan said:
The fact that the "church" of scientology was granted 501c3 non-profit status shows that some serious changes are needed in the tax code.
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I agree, the show Going Clear ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_Clear_(film) ) makes a pretty good case that they intimidated IRS officials into granting the non-profit status. Apparently lawsuits were filed against a lot of IRS higher ups but were terminated when the status was granted. They were personal lawsuits so the IRS could not pay legal costs, the Scientologists were bankrupting the IRS employees with frivolous suits.

I think it shows the problem with giving anyone the non-profit status. What it does is provide government subsidies to a whole lot of organizations that many of us do not support. I don't see the logic in it.
 
Alligatorob said:
I think it shows the problem with giving anyone the non-profit status. What it does is provide government subsidies to a whole lot of organizations that many of us do not support. I don't see the logic in it.
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My H&R Block tax preparer made a comment that the IRS scrutinizes the 501c3 non-profits as they are a known tax dodge, in many cases.
 
Old friend and colleague is an engineer and runs a small business. He is an avid Scientology afficanado. Steve has squandered all his money,and time over the decades. The supposed benefit of the " church of Scientology" are not seen, in his health, business or social situation. He hired Fellow Scientology folks who ripped him off at business.

Jon
 
Nathan said:
My H&R Block tax preparer made a comment that the IRS scrutinizes the 501c3 non-profits as they are a known tax dodge, in many cases.
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Yep. I ran a 501(c)3 horse rescue for 12 years, til I went broke and had to stop. Yet people seem to think rescues make money. I worked for free and paid for the privilege,
 
moviequeen1 said:
I read Lawrence Wright's book "Going Clear,Scientology&Hollywood' fascinating book, highly recommend it
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I did too. It's amazing that Scientology still exists after an expose like that. But people are easily fooled and there is a sucker born every minute. But it's still amazing, even considering the foolishness of the human race.
 
Seeing this brings back memories of my cousin who committed suicide almost 20yrs ago with the assistance of a member of the Scientologist, who stayed with her and told her which way to face when hanging herself so she would come back to a better life. She did it because her husband had left her for another woman. My cousin had her own business and a great deal of money. Was very pretty and successful.
 
I am an old woman and am now a great grandmother. Cults have been around for just about all of my life. I was loosely attached to christianity as a child and in my late teens became an intellectual atheist. However, when raising my children I did not discourage them from exploring religion. I much preferred that they were influenced by a sensible mainstream religion than fall victim to "flirty fishing" (Children of God) or pseudopsychology (Scientology). It was clear that even highly intelligent people could be sucked in by cults. I kept a close eye on anyone who seemed to want to unduly influence them and we talked a lot about all sorts of things because communication is important and doesn't just happen. It has to be grown as the children grow.

It has been said that nature abhors a vacuum and that there is always something ready to sweep in to fill the void. I was of the opinion that the same principle applied to spiritual development.
 
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fuzzybuddy said:
Scientology isn't the only "gimme all your money, and I'll give you salvation" con. On one of those religious TV shows, a preacher said if you give $90 every month, ($1080/year) in 90 days the Holy Spirit will wash away every care you have.
I could never figure out why the Holy Spirit needed cash.
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Nor me. Salvation is freely given to those who seek it. It cannot be purchased but nor is it as easily available to the rich and haughty as it is to the poor and humble. Camels and needles come to mind.
 
oldaunt said:
Yep. I ran a 501(c)3 horse rescue for 12 years, til I went broke and had to stop. Yet people seem to think rescues make money. I worked for free and paid for the privilege,
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Thank you for your service.
It’s a very noble thing to do. ♥️
 

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