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911 said:
There’s a lot more to a safety course than you may realize. Have you ever taken one that was sanctioned and includes such things as; suicide prevention, domestic violence and keeping your guns safe, plus the safety part of the course? The course that we handle here in our area lasts about 4-4 1/2 hours. It’s pretty deep, but when the person leaves, they take with them a wealth of information and handouts.

My advice to everyone that takes a gun safety course is to always take a course that includes the things that I mentioned and to make sure to only take a course with fewer people, say no more than 6 people in the class, at least for the range part where you actually get to shoot your gun. There is too much chance of a mistake happening with too many people at the range.
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I'm not a genius & I've owned guns, shot competitively & handloaded my own ammo for 44 years. I've never taken a safety course or had any "Training."
When gun accidents occur, it's due to recklessness, stupidity & a lack of common sense, and NO safety course will convert an idiot into a responsible person. A gun comes with a manual with all necessary safety warnings. When I bought my first gun, I simply read the manual - just as when I bought anything else that could be dangerous.
 

Gaer said:
911: Who do I contact for a gun safety course? a University? sheriff's dept? Police? NRA?
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Normally, you should be able to call any sporting goods store that sells guns and they should have a list of courses in the area. Some sheriff’s departments will also have that information and some even run their own course.

Like I already stated, be sure it’s not just a course where you go and listen to someone just talking. You need a course that covers all aspects of gun safety, including how to use your weapon and you get to shoot it on a range during the course. If it’s NRA sanctioned, you can be sure it’s a good course, but others offer good courses as well.

It’s also important to learn how to disassemble your weapon and clean it.
 
911 said:
Normally, you should be able to call any sporting goods store that sells guns and they should have a list of courses in the area. Some sheriff’s departments will also have that information and some even run their own course.

Like I already stated, be sure it’s not just a course where you go and listen to someone just talking. You need a course that covers all aspects of gun safety, including how to use your weapon and you get to shoot it on a range during the course. If it’s NRA sanctioned, you can be sure it’s a good course, but others offer good courses as well.

It’s also important to learn how to disassemble your weapon and clean it.
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Thanks! Will do!
 

911 said:
I have no problem with people arming their self, but it would be nice if first time gun owners would be required to take a safety course and that everyone would have to undergo a very intense background check
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I took a six hour class for a carry license and learned a lot. My instructor told several people during class that they were not good candidates to carry. She said her husband doesn't because of his temper. They have guns at home and enjoy range time, but he does not carry. She also told a woman who said she was just going to use hers to threaten someone in a self-defense situation that she didn't need to carry.

Once I had the class certificate, I had to go through the background check, get fingerprinted at the Mississippi Highway Patrol to get the permit.
 
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Don M. said:
Something that is Not being mentioned in the news is the sharp rise in gun purchases....much of that being among first time gun owners. ...

https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2020/08/gun-sales-records-smashed-2020/
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I saw stories early on about people buying guns when it became obvious that the pandemic was about to reach the US. The story I saw featured New York state ...not NYC... and people were waiting in a line that extended a block away from the gun store.
 
911 said:
There’s a lot more to a safety course than you may realize. Have you ever taken one that was sanctioned and includes such things as; suicide prevention, domestic violence and keeping your guns safe, plus the safety part of the course? The course that we handle here in our area lasts about 4-4 1/2 hours. It’s pretty deep, but when the person leaves, they take with them a wealth of information and handouts.

My advice to everyone that takes a gun safety course is to always take a course that includes the things that I mentioned and to make sure to only take a course with fewer people, say no more than 6 people in the class, at least for the range part where you actually get to shoot your gun. There is too much chance of a mistake happening with too many people at the range.
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"There’s a lot more to a safety course than you may realize. Have you ever taken one that was sanctioned and includes such things as; suicide prevention, domestic violence and keeping your guns safe, plus the safety part of the course? The course that we handle here in our area lasts about 4-4 1/2 hours. It’s pretty deep, but when the person leaves, they take with them a wealth of information and handouts. "

But here again, most of what you are talking about is the mental/emotional state of the gun owner. These things really have little to do with the gun itself.

Can a person really be taught ...... not to commit domestic violence? I have my doubts , if a person is likely to commit domestic violence, he/she can do that with a baseball bat.
 
911 said:
Normally, you should be able to call any sporting goods store that sells guns and they should have a list of courses in the area. Some sheriff’s departments will also have that information and some even run their own course.

Like I already stated, be sure it’s not just a course where you go and listen to someone just talking. You need a course that covers all aspects of gun safety, including how to use your weapon and you get to shoot it on a range during the course. If it’s NRA sanctioned, you can be sure it’s a good course, but others offer good courses as well.

It’s also important to learn how to disassemble your weapon and clean it.
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Did it! i'm signed up for a course on the shooting range! Thanks!
 
AnnieA said:
I took a six hour class for a carry license and learned a lot. My instructor told several people during class that they were not good candidates to carry. She said her husband doesn't because of his temper. They have guns at home and enjoy range time, but he does not carry. She also told a woman who said she was just going to use hers to threaten someone in a self-defense situation that she didn't need to carry.

Once I had the class certificate, I had to go through the background check, get fingerprinted at the Mississippi Highway Patrol to get the permit.
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I tried to take a revolver into Canada and they took away my gun at the border. i was traveling alone to Alaska and only wanted it as protection from grizzlies but no go. I camped out for almost a year by myself up there with no gun. They mailed it back to me 2 years later though.
 
Gaer said:
Where I live, there is now only a chief of police. No officers. They all had to quit per defunding, I guess.
it is necessary and a right to have arms to protect oneself and one's family, if they have one.
My hope is all the deaths from gun violence will not lead to gun restriction and gun confiscation.
I know I've said this before but WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE 2ND AMENDMENT!
If this topples, the 1st amendment will soon follow!
THIS CANNOT HAPPEN!

911 is right. I have a Colt S/A but I would like to take a gun safety course as I'm alone. That's a good idea!
I don't like what the NRA has become but they have the power to protect the 2nd amendment. I may join them just because of that.
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Re: the Colt S.A. Just a reminder: If you load it, make sure to load only 5 rounds & keep the chamber in front of the hammer empty.
This explains why:
 
911 said:
I have no problem with people arming their self, but it would be nice if first time gun owners would be required to take a safety course and that everyone would have to undergo a very intense background check

What happens many times over is that guns are sold privately and no checks ever happen. There is a lot that can be done to help secure gun control, but the lobbyists have paid both sides lots of money to their committees to prevent this from happening.
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Here in California if you're not LE a gun owner safety course is required, has to get a DOJ and wait 10 days. Private gun sales are required to be handled by an FFL. That in essence is/was the Brady bill, which I thought had been enacted, but none of those provisions are in effect nationally.
 
My wife has her own Smith & Wesson 9mm handgun. I had Small Arms Training in the Navy and still, to this day, remember everything I learned. I've shown her how to load the clip, insert the clip, hold the gun and fire. Even bought/installed a laser on the barrel to make it easier for her to shoot/hit the target. We both shoot the 9mm as well as the Ruger 10-22 we have.
 
Aunt Bea said:
A spike in gun sales isn't news but drilling down to see who is buying them is.

From what I've read there has been a substantial increase in gun purchases by minorities who distrust law enforcement and feel a need to take responsibility for protecting themselves and their families as civil unrest around the country continues to grow.
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That is certainly understandable, considering the lack of responsible leadership in this country. I don't know what has happened to some law enforcement agencies, training seems to be severely lacking in the use of force. Better training would be more cost effective than dealing with increased lawsuits arising from shooting unarmed suspects in the back.
 
I continue to be appalled at the kinds of guns that ordinary untrained people are buying. Instead of being steered toward reliable, simple, easy to operate, sensible double action 38 caliber revolvers, they are pushed into buying complicated high powered automatics that they will never practice with enough to be proficient. Or they are buying these little cheap 380 automatics, because they are "cute."
 
Sunny said:
So, 911, this means you have no concern for the innocent people being killed on a daily basis by rogue cops?

My concern is for any innocent people being killed by trigger-happy maniacs, whether those maniacs are wearing a uniform or not.
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No, it does not mean that and rogue cops are not killing innocent people on a “daily basis.”
 
ClassicRockr said:
Sunny, these two guys weren't "innocent"!

You need to read the entire story about Floyd. Officers weren't called to where he was at for nothing. Neck restraint, for resisting, has been done for years. Just like a knee on the back for someone resisting.
The other guy, his family paints him as an angel, but law enforcement sure don't. He was order to stop, but kept on walking. If a person, of any race, doesn't follow orders from an officer, what's the officer to do..........let the person simply get into their vehicle and drive off. Apparently, yes.

Suspects, their families and their lawyers are extremely good at changing facts.

What I'd like to hear from is, the officers involved. Their story counts just as much as the suspects story.

LIke I've already said, Sunny............be an officer for one day and have to encounter someone like Floyd or the other dude. What if neither would listen to your commands? Would you simply say, "leave and have a nice day"?
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George Floyd should have been given immediate medical attention now that we know that when he was first seated in the back of the police car he already had enough Fentanyl and other narcotics that could have caused his death and why then he was saying, “I can’t breathe.” He should have received at least 1, if not 2 doses of Narcan, but the police probably did not know that he had dosed up on these opiates. I don’t know if anyone else is aware of it, but Derek Chauvin’s attorneys are seeking to have his murder charges dismissed because of this.
 
ClassicRockr said:
Sunny, these two guys weren't "innocent"!

You need to read the entire story about Floyd. Officers weren't called to where he was at for nothing. Neck restraint, for resisting, has been done for years. Just like a knee on the back for someone resisting.
The other guy, his family paints him as an angel, but law enforcement sure don't. He was order to stop, but kept on walking. If a person, of any race, doesn't follow orders from an officer, what's the officer to do..........let the person simply get into their vehicle and drive off. Apparently, yes.

Suspects, their families and their lawyers are extremely good at changing facts.

What I'd like to hear from is, the officers involved. Their story counts just as much as the suspects story.

LIke I've already said, Sunny............be an officer for one day and have to encounter someone like Floyd or the other dude. What if neither would listen to your commands? Would you simply say, "leave and have a nice day"?
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Classic, they weren't innocent? Based on what irrefutable evidence? The fact that the police had to come up with some justification for their racism and murderous knee-jerk reactions, on about a 12-year-old emotional level? The incredible whoppers they come up with, each time(!) could win some kind of fiction award. And you claim that the suspects and their lawyers are the ones changing the facts? Even though all those videos plainly show, over and over again, brutal attacks by police who were clearly in no danger.

I always thought that in this country, a person is innocent until PROVEN guilty in a court of law. Silly me. Apparently, what we have now is a dictatorship staffed by a blue-clad execution squad. Why waste time with trials and courts? Let's just declare ourselves the heroic good guys, and go out and shoot the "bad guys" whenever we feel like it, then come up with a justification that would be hilarious if it weren't so tragic.

Nobody says these shooting victims are angels. They are the usual mixed bag, the same as all of us. But whatever crimes they may have committed in the past, whatever they were thinking of doing in the future, at the moment they were shot, they were either sitting, walking away (getting into the police car, at the officer's demand), going for a walk, unarmed, in the "wrong" neighborhood, sitting in a movie theatre, even sitting in their own homes! The mind boggles. And the police have the "chutzpah" to try to justify this as self-defense? Good God. How heartbreaking that this is what our country has deteriorated to.
 
Sunny said:
Classicrockr, you are changing the subject. Where did I ever refer to "someone who is resisting or shooting at you to kill you?"

Read my note again. I said INNOCENT people. And how on earth could an unarmed person with his back turned to the police officer, following the orders the cop just gave him, be a threat? How can the cop justify shooting him in the back (7 times, yet!)

And what abou Floyd? He was down on the ground begging to be allowed to breathe! And all the others who were unarmed, although the police are very good at changing the facts afterward to justify what they did?

Sorry, Classic, but if you want to answer my comments on this, please at least address MY comments, not something you have conjured up!
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Read my note again. I said INNOCENT people. And how on earth could an unarmed person with his back turned to the police officer, following the orders the cop just gave him, be a threat? How can the cop justify shooting him in the back (7 times, yet!)"

Watch the videos again ..... he wasn't "following the orders given by the cop" ..... He was told told to halt , and he continued walking away toward his car, then, [like a dumb ass] reached into the car. That's when he was IMO rightfully shot seven times.

The police were called there by his g/friend/ex g/friend on a domestic call. She wanted him removed,gone ..... but no he wasn't hearing any of it, his arrogant ass was going to do exactly what he wanted to do ........ well he paid the price.

Like all the others, had he behaved in the first place, complied in the second place , he would be walking today.

I do not feel the least bit sorry for him, I am just glad the kids & the officers weren't hurt.
 
Nathan said:
That is certainly understandable, considering the lack of responsible leadership in this country. I don't know what has happened to some law enforcement agencies, training seems to be severely lacking in the use of force. Better training would be more cost effective than dealing with increased lawsuits arising from shooting unarmed suspects in the back.
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These cities should also worry about the hundreds of lawsuits filed by the business owners and citizens for all the damage and violence of the mobs being allowed to roam the streets and act out in anarchy. Seattle, Portland, Chicago, New York, Kenosha and Minneapolis are probably in the hole tens or hundreds of millions of dollars. I feel bad for their citizens. With all the people leaving their cities and properties being devalued, revenue from taxes will be severely diminished. The last few weeks, we have seen people being murdered by these mobs, whether directly or indirectly. It’s an all around bad situation.

Portland refuses to prosecute and allows them to go bail-free. Would you live there?
 

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