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911 said:
George Floyd should have been given immediate medical attention now that we know that when he was first seated in the back of the police car he already had enough Fentanyl and other narcotics that could have caused his death and why then he was saying, “I can’t breathe.” He should have received at least 1, if not 2 doses of Narcan, but the police probably did not know that he had dosed up on these opiates. I don’t know if anyone else is aware of it, but Derek Chauvin’s attorneys are seeking to have his murder charges dismissed because of this.
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"Derek Chauvin’s attorneys are seeking to have his murder charges dismissed because of this. "

I hope they are sucessful.
 

911 said:
The .380 is a nice little pistol that can be very easily concealed and yet is very effective. I carry my 9mm wherever I go.
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Is the 11 for the mag capacity????
Wife and Daughter CCW is the LCP 380...
My Makarov 9x18 has been a trusted companion over 25 years...
 
Keesha said:
Neither do I and to be brutally honest, cause I actually am, it pisses me off when people come in here and add posts like they’ve got some kind of inside information that nobody else knows about and when you call them it, they completely bale.

They act like we can’t distinguish between actual facts and their poorly disguised racism which frankly I find disgusting! If you’re a racist then have the balls to claim your truth. Don’t come here on this board playing these stupid lame-ass ugly head games like the rest of us are gullible idiots. The only thing you prove is how cowardly you really are.

Note: This is not directed at any single member.
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Keesha, Were you refering to 911's post number 47? (with all due respect to your opinion)

I don't have a link either but I saw this too, a few times on Fox News. I think it was on Sean Hannity and again on the Tucker Carlson show.
Both of these announcers I've come to trust.
Law enforcement officers are trained to deal in facts, not suppositions.
Positive proof, (video of him inside the vehicle saying he couldn't breathe) is necessary to establish a fact.
This was shown multiple times on at least this one news channel.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
Just what we need...more guns! I will say that many of the protests have been peaceful and not senseless at all. Rioting is always senseless but even those sometimes have been instigated.
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(with all due respect to your opinion) Can you look at the topic of guns from more than one side? Try to look at all six sides. How can guns be blamed for what is happening by the mobs? Do you blame knives? all the inanimate objects which can be used in violence?
Please try to look at the big picture. Study the history of nations who's armament was confiscated.
After the ways to defend our freedoms are taken from us our freedom of speech will be the next to be taken away!
I'm not kidding. This is already in the works in the minds of man! Marxist groups are already planning this.
I know this one little paragraph isn't going to change your mind, or anyone's, but try to look at this from varied viewpoints, if you can.
It's so imparative we defend the U.S. Constitution!
 
Gaer said:
Keesha, Were you refering to 911's post number 47? (with all due respect to your opinion)

I don't have a link either but I saw this too, a few times on Fox News. I think it was on Sean Hannity and again on the Tucker Carlson show.
Both of these announcers I've come to trust.
Law enforcement officers are trained to deal in facts, not suppositions.
Positive proof, (video of him inside the vehicle saying he couldn't breathe) is necessary to establish a fact.
This was shown multiple times on at least this one news channel.
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I’m not posting to any particular poster which I’ve already mentioned.

I’m talking , in general, about members who write posts about apparent facts that nobody else can view but are expected to be believed. If people are bringing in new information to a subject that’s already been discussed in length, then they should add links or at least list the source they got the information from because sadly other people looking for any reason to justify racial murder will support it with no references whatsoever since it fits in with their mindset. ‘Birds of a feather’ so to speak.

That’s what ‘fair’ debating is about. If you can’t show proof of your statements and conclusions then it merely looks like BS or plain animosity. You saying you saw it too doesn’t make it fact. I’d like you to prove what you are talking about otherwise I call it BULL!
 
Gaer said:
(with all due respect to your opinion) Can you look at the topic of guns from more than one side? Try to look at all six sides. How can guns be blamed for what is happening by the mobs? Do you blame knives? all the inanimate objects which can be used in violence?
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What six sides are there? If someone gets furious and wants to cause the largest damage possible then they aren’t going to reach for a knife. They might get hurt. A gun can kill far more people in the shortest period of time. If everyone in one country thinks the same way, then the danger is increased hundred fold .
 
Keesha said:
What six sides are there? If someone gets furious and wants to cause the largest damage possible then they aren’t going to reach for a knife. They might get hurt. A gun can kill far more people in the shortest period of time. If everyone in one country thinks the same way, then the danger is increased hundred fold .
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So....the concern is "How many people can be killed in the shortest period of time."
Then incidents like these should concern you more than guns:
Oklahoma City bombing in 1995: 168 killed, over 680 injured in less than one second:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

87 killed in France by terrorists using a truck:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_truck_attack
 
911, classic rocker or RGP: What is your opinion on concealed weapon permits? Are they or will they be necessary?
If one is issued in a specific state,it it good in all continental states? Thanks.
 
win231 said:
So....the concern is "How many people can be killed in the shortest period of time."
Then incidents like these should concern you more than guns:
Oklahoma City bombing in 1995: 168 killed, over 680 injured in less than one second:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

87 killed in France by terrorists using a truck:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_truck_attack
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No win, the concern is how easy and widely accepted firearms are. The average outraged human who wants to cause damage is more likely to reach for a gun rather than figuring how to make a bomb or jump in a truck and run people over.

Just how often do you read about an angry person driving down a sidewalk or making bombs to kill others? Not often whereas owning a gun is almost as commonplace as owning a dog.

That’s what I’m saying.
 
Gaer said:
911, classic rocker or RGP: What is your opinion on concealed weapon permits? Are they or will they be necessary?
If one is issued in a specific state,it it good in all continental states? Thanks.
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Well Im not listed but will say I agree to them, and consider them a necessity.... I, the wife and daughter all have ours...
Here in NC its a safety and reviewing laws and responsibility you must follow, also a major background check goes with it..
Then the local Sheriff must approve it..... and must be renewed every 5 years.
As for other states.... not all carry reciprocity to every state.... and you must double check for were you travel....
 
old medic said:
Well Im not listed but will say I agree to them, and consider them a necessity.... I, the wife and daughter all have ours...
Here in NC its a safety and reviewing laws and responsibility you must follow, also a major background check goes with it..
Then the local Sheriff must approve it..... and must be renewed every 5 years.
As for other states.... not all carry reciprocity to every state.... and you must double check for were you travel....
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Thanks, old medic!
 
Gaer said:
911, classic rocker or RGP: What is your opinion on concealed weapon permits? Are they or will they be necessary?
If one is issued in a specific state,it it good in all continental states? Thanks.
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If by necessary you mean "required" by law ? I believe they already are. If you mean necessary due to the rise in crime ? I'ts getting there.

I believe the permit, is good in all states ............ I'm sure there are those here more informed than I, so like you, I'll await their reply.
 
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Gaer said:
(with all due respect to your opinion) Can you look at the topic of guns from more than one side? Try to look at all six sides. How can guns be blamed for what is happening by the mobs? Do you blame knives? all the inanimate objects which can be used in violence?
Please try to look at the big picture. Study the history of nations who's armament was confiscated.
After the ways to defend our freedoms are taken from us our freedom of speech will be the next to be taken away!
I'm not kidding. This is already in the works in the minds of man! Marxist groups are already planning this.
I know this one little paragraph isn't going to change your mind, or anyone's, but try to look at this from varied viewpoints, if you can.
It's so imparative we defend the U.S. Constitution!
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An open mind, facts, and proof Gaer. (y)(y):devilish:
 
"All kinds" means people with multiple agendas, and degrees of gun proficiency. And please don't read anything other than that into it.
Still, nobody has said why flooding the populace with weapons is a good thing>
 
rgp said:
If by necessary you mean "required" by law ? I believe they already are. If you mean necessary due to the rise in crime ? I'ts getting there.

I believe the permit, is good in all states ............ I'm sure there are those here more informed than I, so like you, I'll await their reply.
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CC permits are good ONLY in the state in which they are issued, unless a state has formal reciprocity with the issuing state.
 
Sunny said:
Well said, Nathan!

In addition, I am horrified at the way this has been turned into an issue of "Are you with the police or against them?" Why all of a sudden does it have to be one or the other?

Like most people, I support and respect the police, as a necessary contingent of civilized life. Yes, if someone was breaking into my home, I woud of course call the police. If a crazed person was running around shooting and killing people at random, I would expect the police to stop him, doing whatever is necessary. I am impressed by the heroic actions of many police officers, taking personal risks in order to rescue people in dangerous situations.

None of that makes it OK for "rogue cops" to decide that it's OK to shoot people in the back or strangle them when they are already down on the ground struggling to breathe, usually with no reason at all. No reason except race, that is. The racial element in this cannot be ignored; it's like the 600 pound gorilla in the room.

I have to wonder what motivates anyone to defend this behavior, which smears the good reputation the U.S. police have generally enjoyed with most of the public. Yes, I know, back in the 60's, student protestors called them "pigs" and baited them with taunts every chance they got. But usually, the police responded like professionals trusted to restore law and order. They did not go around firing at those kids for no reason, often killing them, and then try to proclaim themselves heroes.

There is a big difference between keeping the peace, and behaving like a goon squad. Why let the bad apples take over and ruin the reputation of a formerly honorable group of people, entrusted to help the public remain safe, and all of a sudden turn into an execution squad? Could it be that there is nothing wrong with the "police" per se, but that this institution has been infiltrated by racists and hatemongers?
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Well said, Sunny. I agree.
 
Keesha said:
No win, the concern is how easy and widely accepted firearms are. The average outraged human who wants to cause damage is more likely to reach for a gun rather than figuring how to make a bomb or jump in a truck and run people over.

Just how often do you read about an angry person driving down a sidewalk or making bombs to kill others? Not often whereas owning a gun is almost as commonplace as owning a dog.

That’s what I’m saying.
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As long as there are humans on the planet, there will be crime, angry people & crazy people. Always have & always will be.
All I can do is protect me & my loved ones. I can't change what can't be changed. I can't fix the world; no one can.
And it's not my fault (or any responsible gun owner's fault) that there are crazy people.
 
win231 said:
As long as there are humans on the planet, there will be crime, angry people & crazy people. Always have & always will be.
All I can do is protect me & my loved ones. I can't change what can't be changed. I can't fix the world; no one can.
And it's not my fault (or any responsible gun owner's fault) that there are crazy people.
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Nobody was asking you to fix it win nor do I know how many armed crazy people there are either but we both know, ‘that’ wasn’t the issue.
 
Gaer said:
911, classic rocker or RGP: What is your opinion on concealed weapon permits? Are they or will they be necessary?
If one is issued in a specific state,it it good in all continental states? Thanks.
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I prefer people carry concealed weapons compared to open carry for obvious reasons. Here in PA, there is a process that is required to obtain a concealed permit. Concealed permits are not good from state to state, but there are some states that do reciprocate with one another. I do recommend people that are able to handle a weapon to CC.
 
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