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JimBob1952 said:
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Years ago, I had a work project with a variety of topics.. one title was KING CHARLES SPANIEL.
I was pulling an all-nighter to meet a deadline, had never heard the breed before, and was so tired my first thought was "What an odd name!" then: "Wait, did he have a dog named after him?" I was so exhausted I thought "King Charles Spaniel" must have been a British monarch in the distant past...
That's when I figured I needed to take a little break, but met the deadline anyway.
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911 said:
I prefer people carry concealed weapons compared to open carry for obvious reasons. Here in PA, there is a process that is required to obtain a concealed permit. Concealed permits are not good from state to state, but there are some states that do reciprocate with one another. I do recommend people that are able to handle a weapon to CC.
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Maybe it's obvious to you, but I don't understand it.. have heard it before, but not from law enforcement... unless there's the concern some individuals would start "dueling in the street," why are concealed weapons preferable to open carry???
 

Don M. said:
Something that is Not being mentioned in the news is the sharp rise in gun purchases....much of that being among first time gun owners. 2020 is seeing the sharpest rise is gun sales in the nations history. Between the violence taking place in many of the cities, and the reduction in support for the police, many people are preparing to have to defend themselves and their homes. Between this pandemic, and the senseless protests/riots, 2020 is a really bad year.

https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2020/08/gun-sales-records-smashed-2020/
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Yep, I have to reply to this. I have always been against hand guns in my house and there never was. Notice the past tense. We now have 2 handguns, are getting professional training, and are scheduled for a Concealed Carry Permit class. Never thought I'd see the day, but the day has just been too crazy! Anyone come looking to destroy or trespass on MY property will be met with 2 old geezers who have grown up with rifles all their lives and just upgraded our protection! It should not be this way, but it is, and we are ready.
 
rgp said:
"but it would be nice if first time gun owners would be required to take a safety course and that everyone would have to undergo a very intense background check"

The background check I support 100%........

But the safety course ? What does that actually mean ?

Anyone who owns a gun, and at some point, ... points that weapon at another person . Does so with the intention of inflicting harm/death. For whatever reason ? and at that point it's all about the person , his/her intention, his/her emotional state. How many actual , accidental gun deaths do we hear of ? [ discounting those that involve kids] I mean take it to the range a few times p/year , and a person will learn to operate/use it.

I am much more concerned with the mental/emotional state of "new" or "older" gun owners .

I could go out today and buy a big gun/little gun, and never use it against another person, unless they kick in that front door. But at one time I did know a man, that bragged about his collection, and his accuracy. But that same man tried to shoot down an airplane because he didn't like the banner it was towing. Point being, he knew everything there was to know about guns .... period ! ........ But on occasion he lost his sense of responsibility owning one ........ or in his case several.

With your law enforcement background, perhaps you know of more 'accidental' shootings than the rest of us.
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The biggest thing pounded over and over and over in safety classes is when you pick up a hand gun, your finger should NOT be on the trigger. The only time your finger should be on the trigger is when you are prepared to actually Shoot! The other big thing they teach, is you NEVER point it at someone unless you intend to shoot them! Remember that couple that got arrested for pointing guns at those rioters in their own yard? That woman was the WORSE gun owner, she had her finger on the trigger the entire time and was swinging it around like a rope!
This is where guns are dangerous! She could have accidentally shot and killed someone, then it would be a murder charge!
 
JaniceM said:
Maybe it's obvious to you, but I don't understand it.. have heard it before, but not from law enforcement... unless there's the concern some individuals would start "dueling in the street," why are concealed weapons preferable to open carry???
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The reasons why we in law enforcement prefer CC are 1. the person carrying definitely went through background checks and his/her weapon is more likely to be registered and 2. if a person is open carry into Walmart it usually starts a panic among the shoppers because no one knows what that person’s intent is. This is just 2 of the reasons why CC is preferred.

I have always told my wife that if someone is going to come into the Target or Walmart with the intention of ‘making the rounds’ and they see me open carrying my 9mm they probably will decide to go elsewhere and do it. If someone is going to attempt to ‘make the rounds’ I want to be there and maybe be able to help quell the shooter’s rage.
 
911 said:
The reasons why we in law enforcement prefer CC are 1. the person carrying definitely went through background checks and his/her weapon is more likely to be registered and 2. if a person is open carry into Walmart it usually starts a panic among the shoppers because no one knows what that person’s intent is. This is just 2 of the reasons why CC is preferred.

I have always told my wife that if someone is going to come into the Target or Walmart with the intention of ‘making the rounds’ and they see me open carrying my 9mm they probably will decide to go elsewhere and do it. If someone is going to attempt to ‘make the rounds’ I want to be there and maybe be able to help quell the shooter’s rage.
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O.k., thanks for the info!!
 
win231 said:
I'm not a genius & I've owned guns, shot competitively & handloaded my own ammo for 44 years. I've never taken a safety course or had any "Training."
When gun accidents occur, it's due to recklessness, stupidity & a lack of common sense, and NO safety course will convert an idiot into a responsible person. A gun comes with a manual with all necessary safety warnings. When I bought my first gun, I simply read the manual - just as when I bought anything else that could be dangerous.
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911 said:
These cities should also worry about the hundreds of lawsuits filed by the business owners and citizens for all the damage and violence of the mobs being allowed to roam the streets and act out in anarchy. Seattle, Portland, Chicago, New York, Kenosha and Minneapolis are probably in the hole tens or hundreds of millions of dollars. I feel bad for their citizens. With all the people leaving their cities and properties being devalued, revenue from taxes will be severely diminished. The last few weeks, we have seen people being murdered by these mobs, whether directly or indirectly. It’s an all around bad situation.

Portland refuses to prosecute and allows them to go bail-free. Would you live there?
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Run for the hills! wait, .. charge the batteries, put the shotgun in the seat holster, jump on the rascal and drive to the hills! ... shit, wait, go back make sure i have all my pills, charge the batteries, shotgun ammo, and I'll need a snack, wait ... go back get a snack, charge the batteries, but first I need a nap.
 
JaniceM said:
Maybe it's obvious to you, but I don't understand it.. have heard it before, but not from law enforcement... unless there's the concern some individuals would start "dueling in the street," why are concealed weapons preferable to open carry???
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With open carry someone can target you and take your gun.
With concealed they don't know if you have a gun.
 
Camper6 said:
With open carry someone can target you and take your gun.
With concealed they don't know if you have a gun.
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I prefer to carry a loaded guillotine, sure i had to pay for a trailer hitch for my car and a have a specialized guillotine trailer made, but it makes me feel safe wherever I go. People see it and they know I'm packin' and say "maybe I'll **** with the other Canadian Tire store across town, the one without the guy with the guillotine..."
 
Gaer said:
Thank you, I already have a Colt S/A. Not going to buy a rifle. I'm not afraid but since I have this revolver, I just want to understand it in full and feel confident loading, unloading, firing, handling it etc.
Yes, I understand about shooting another. My late husband was a Federal Marshal and he killed 11 men in gunfights. He told me it's something you never want to see.
No, There would be no safe, armed neighborhood. but this is semi-rural. Yes, If they came here,I would be the only one against the mob.
I doubt this will happen and as I said, I'm not afraid. Your thoughtful advise is much appreciated though!
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Don’t forget to learn how to disassemble your weapon to be able to keep it cleaned and oiled.

I was able to work with Federal Marshalls a few times when we conducted raids on drug houses and illegal firearms. In the house that had the illegal firearms, we confiscated a lot of money, along with 400 handheld sub machine guns and several other weapons, which were mostly handguns.
 
Gaer said:
(with all due respect to your opinion) Can you look at the topic of guns from more than one side? Try to look at all six sides. How can guns be blamed for what is happening by the mobs? Do you blame knives? all the inanimate objects which can be used in violence?
Please try to look at the big picture. Study the history of nations who's armament was confiscated.
After the ways to defend our freedoms are taken from us our freedom of speech will be the next to be taken away!
I'm not kidding. This is already in the works in the minds of man! Marxist groups are already planning this.
I know this one little paragraph isn't going to change your mind, or anyone's, but try to look at this from varied viewpoints, if you can.
It's so imparative we defend the U.S. Constitution!
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Six sides? Lets take mobs out of it. I said nothing about mobs. You know what they say "Don't bring a knife to a gunfight". But lets take knives out of it. As my husband used to say..."that's not what we're talking about right now". I don't like guns...period. Obviously guns don't fire by themselves. Here's the real history. The way White people are treated when they defend their homes is vastly different from the way Black people are treated for doing the same thing. But wait...let's take race out of it. Too many people who have insisted on having guns in their homes have not had the good sense to put them away safely...thus the many children who are killed by gun accidents. Then there's the (adult) "I didn't mean to kill him/her...the gun went off by accident!". An elderly man walks into a hospital and kills his wife who's a patient. He didn't stab her...he shot her. You can kill someone from a distance with a gun. You can't do that with a knife unless you are a really good knife thrower. And how did a teenager get to walk around with a AR-15 rifle then kill 2 protesters. There's so many guns out there that any and everybody, no matter their mental state, can get their hands on one. That was my point.

My father had a gun when I lived at home. My mother said he used to go out in the back yard and shoot it every 4th of July. Never got why though. But I never allowed guns in my home and I broke it off with a boyfriend who brought one here and decided to play around with it in front of me and my little boy. I asked him to leave and told him never to come back. I don't even remember if it was loaded...didn't care! I don't see a reason to change my mind. What good would it do me? I'm certainly not going to go out and buy one. I also see no reason to try to convince you to think as I do about guns. In this case, I respectfully say..we can agree to disagree.
 
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Pepper said:
I found that many people of all stripes can fit that description. If I were comparing, I find the Charlottesville mob to be jerkier. You remember them, those "Jews will not replace us" guys, the ones with the torches like it's Kristallnacht.
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Far right extremists and far left extremists get so off the mark that they begin to look alike.
 
win231 said:
It's much easier to blame an object than blaming your brother.
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I blame my brother. Don't tell me how it is, when you have no idea what happened or why. After the fact he said he thought about burning down their houses or shooting them. He chose shooting them with he deer hunting rifle, a .30-06 Browning Semi Automatic. I also know what led to this. They were innocent people, all four of them. If you want to know the truth about what happened here's the link to my article about it. The Other Side of Murder I've also written a couple of books about it. The one currently in print is more comprehensive than the first one. The title is different from the one listed in the article. I changed it because I was contacted by the show Evil Lives Here. They were propagating hate. That's the last thing we need in this violent world.
 

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