Health Care CEO murdered in NYC in a targeted attack

Suspect in the killing of UnitedHealthcare’s CEO struggles, shouts while entering court.​

Updated 6:22 PM CST, December 10, 2024
ALTOONA, Pa. (AP) — The man accused of killing UnitedHealthcare’s CEO struggled with deputies and shouted while being led into court Tuesday as new details emerged about his possible motivation behind the ambush.
In his first public words since a five-day search ended with his arrest at a McDonald’s in Pennsylvania, Luigi Nicholas Mangione emerged from a patrol car shouting about an “insult to the intelligence of the American people” while deputies pushed him inside a courthouse.
The 26-year-old Ivy League graduate from a prominent Maryland real estate family is fighting attempts to extradite him to New York so that he can face a murder charge in the Manhattan killing of Brian Thompson, who led the United States’ largest medical insurance company.
A law enforcement bulletin obtained by The Associated Press said that at the time of his arrest, Mangione was carrying a handwritten document expressing anger with what he called “parasitic” health insurance companies and a disdain for corporate greed and power.

Suspect in the killing of UnitedHealthcare’s CEO struggles, shouts while entering courthouse
 

seadoug said:

Suspect in the killing of UnitedHealthcare’s CEO struggles, shouts while entering court.​

Updated 6:22 PM CST, December 10, 2024
ALTOONA, Pa. (AP) — The man accused of killing UnitedHealthcare’s CEO struggled with deputies and shouted while being led into court Tuesday as new details emerged about his possible motivation behind the ambush.
In his first public words since a five-day search ended with his arrest at a McDonald’s in Pennsylvania, Luigi Nicholas Mangione emerged from a patrol car shouting about an “insult to the intelligence of the American people” while deputies pushed him inside a courthouse.
The 26-year-old Ivy League graduate from a prominent Maryland real estate family is fighting attempts to extradite him to New York so that he can face a murder charge in the Manhattan killing of Brian Thompson, who led the United States’ largest medical insurance company.
A law enforcement bulletin obtained by The Associated Press said that at the time of his arrest, Mangione was carrying a handwritten document expressing anger with what he called “parasitic” health insurance companies and a disdain for corporate greed and power.

Suspect in the killing of UnitedHealthcare’s CEO struggles, shouts while entering courthouse
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I wonder if he was aware that the Medicare enrollment period ended on Dec. 7? Did any reconsider their choice?
 

oscash said:
I think there should be a law, when someone enters a premises, they must remove any type of headwear, whether it be a takeaway or grocery shop. Too many of these places are being robbed.
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That wouldn't work for me as a Muslim. And I don't wear scarves that cover or are draped around my face. A DMV agent tried to get me to take my scarf off when I went to renew my license. I told her that wasn't happening because of religious reasons. She spoke with her supervisor and they just had me move the scarf back a bit. I thought it was silly because none of my face was actually covered. BTW...the woman who asked him to smile so she could see if his face matched his (what turned out to be fake) ID apparently didn't know that N.J. doesn't allow drivers to smile for their license photos.

I can see asking that a hoodie pulled down around the face and masks of any type be removed. That was a tough call during COVID though. My son joked that he never thought he'd see the day when banks asked customers to wear masks (obviously referring to masked men robbing banks).
:ROFLMAO:
 
CooCooforCoCoPuffs said:
I just go off on tangents :rolleyes:😟 and think I am getting my point across and it fails more often than like to admit.
My brain is just very fast, always processing fast.

Putting it all down in a fashion such that others understand my thought process, is really hard.

I'd be VERY happy to give away all except what I need to live on if I could be as successful as all these billionaires!

Am one of those people who would build orphanages, medical schools, coop educational reform programs...huge lists.

But am not...so I pay my taxes and try not to manipulate my way out of my obligations as a citizen.


A question:

If a citizen didn't AGREE with the way their government was spending the tax money is it bad for the citizen to look for legal loopholes, so they have the freedom to use that money to influence legislation (contribute to lobbies)?
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I don't think it's so awful if you look for all the legal loopholes as long as you aren't buying politicians or judges to do it. And especially if you're actively looking for those altruistic ways to help others after you've met your needs. At the same time, for me, if my government is sending aid money to groups or desperate countries, I don't have a problem with that either. Compared to so many people in the world, my life is a dream and I would always hope that if I was stuck in the middle of a nightmare, that someone would reach out and help me somehow.

As it is, being a senior on a smallish, fixed income, I'm stuck with helping out in little ways. Besides donating regularly to our local food bank, two of my favourite charities are Operation Smile and SoiDog International who do rescue work in Asian countries for street and meat farm dogs that are treated horribly. I figure when my little dog passes on, I'll be able to do more because I can use the money I spent on his food, to help more.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
That wouldn't work for me as a Muslim. And I don't wear scarves that cover or are draped around my face. A DMV agent tried to get me to take my scarf off when I went to renew my license. I told her that wasn't happening because of religious reasons. She spoke with her supervisor and they just had me move the scarf back a bit. I thought it was silly because none of my face was actually covered. BTW...the woman who asked him to smile so she could see if his face matched his (what turned out to be fake) ID apparently didn't know that N.J. doesn't allow drivers to smile for their license photos.

I can see asking that a hoodie pulled down around the face and masks of any type be removed. That was a tough call during COVID though. My son joked that he never thought he'd see the day when banks asked customers to wear masks (obviously referring to masked men robbing banks).
:ROFLMAO:
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So, your religious beliefs should trump the safety concerns of a shop owner ?

I would refuse to sell to you, and I would have refused you the D/L
 
Debrah N. said:
Does length of membership come with rules on what kind of comments are acceptable?
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No. It merely gives long-term members a reason to "ignore" new posters who barrel forward without bothering to get the lay of the land before attacking.

@CooCooforCoCoPuffs, whatever you are - or claim to be - in real life is largely immaterial here. Our posts fully represent us.

One of my sisters is in fact a clinical psychologist (PhD). As is true of most actual professionals in that field, she would never dream of publicly (or privately) pronouncing the unkind snap judgments you made about @Pepper, particularly after the extraordinarily small sampling of interactions that a week of forum posts provides.

p.s. Yes, I can be a strong defender of people I care about - including many on this forum. Attack them and you attack me. No need to analyze me on that score - I and most SFers figured it out long ago.
 
Gosh, thank you @StarSong but from her very first post I knew she was someone to watch out for:
"Water for thirst in case DH and I make love. Drop my robe on the chair beside the bed for "emergencies". A Colt .38 revolver."
I knew she was a doozy. But thank you, really, this individual has nothing to say to me that I take to heart.

Hugs to you, dear SS.
 
squatting dog said:
Something doesn't pass the smell test here.
So, This guy is apparently a smart, Ivy League graduate with several degrees.
But, while supposedly waiting to bump off the CEO, he takes off his mask so he can flirt with a Starbucks employee.
Then, an hour later, goes and kills a CEO in the street and rides away on an E-bike.

A week later, he goes into a local McDonald's where he brings along the murder weapon, the fake ID he used at the hotel in NYC, along with this manifesto that talks about how horrible the healthcare system is. He is then somehow identified by a McDonald's cashier after he sits down to eat his meal.
Then, he waits for the police to arrive................. sitting there with a ghost gun and a home made suppressor.
Now, maybe it's just me, but, I'd bet most murders probably wouldn't be toting around the murder weapon, fake ID's, and of course, a manifesto.
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Manchurian candidate??
 
Happyflowerlady said:
This is exactly my thoughts, too, as I said yesterday. This man comes from an extremely wealthy family, and even if he does have problems from his back injury, his family probably had the very best insurance possible, and had the money to have sued if the doctor did something wrong with the operation.
The pictures show him, 6-pack abs, mountain climbing, and living a very athletic life, and he was able to do the whole shooting and getaway scene with no physical handicaps that were obvious.
United Health Care is basically a medicare advantage plan insurance, from what I can see, so it would not be insuring someone who was not on Medicare.

As rich as the CEO was, apparently the shooter’s family is even wealthier. There is no way that he would still be wearing the same clothes and wandering around carrying the murder weapon.
He could have left it anywhere, even with the backpack that they found and said was his.

He had $8,000 cash plus another $2,000 in some foreign currency when they arrested him, so he did not have to be sitting out in public with all the evidence and waiting for someone to recognize him.
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Call me a conspiracy theorist but it doesn't add up to me either.
 
Rose65 said:
He is being called the 'Hot Assassin'! All over the internet. I admit I secretly thought how good looking he is.
Sorry, I should be ashamed of myself but it's true.
Of course I certainly don't condone what he has done.
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As a male, I don't usually notice good looking guys, but just being strictly analytical, he has what I would describe as perfect features. Although in his most recent photos, he could use a shave.
 
I am almost sure that already somebody in Hollywood is writing the script for a movie of this case. Which actor is as handsome as Luigi Mangione? Suggestions please.
 
HermitHogan said:
Yep, he expected to be caught and now will likely spend the best years (age-wise) of his life in prison. So the question is: why did he throw his life away?
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I don't think he thought he was throwing his life away, but that he was making his meaningless life meaningful. I think this is a major problem for people around the world. In some countries, people give up their lives as suicide bombers because of the need to have meaningful lives.
 

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