How is the migrant crisis where you live?

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Do you see violence in the streets now? Is council housing overwhelmed or are the migrants being sent to hotels at your, the taxpayer's, expense? I wasn't sure how bad this all was until it got here. This could be another life changer for me if it gets any worse. :(
 

Migration is continuing to be a burden on the complexities of our failing economy. The powers that be tell us the economy is fine. Average people are hurting to make ends meet NOW. The economy is horrible for most Americans. Add 1000's of more people to do our work, and put additional strain on the essentials of surviving...housing food, transportation, health care, and many more are bound to make it worse.
 
chic said:
This could be another life changer for me if it gets any worse. :(
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I'm imagining what that means. Maybe I shouldn't, 'cause if I'm on the right track, it couldn't be discussed on this forum anyway. Cool off my fevered mind machinations and say it ain't so!
 

Pepper said:
I'm imagining what that means. Maybe I shouldn't, 'cause if I'm on the right track, it couldn't be discussed on this forum anyway. Cool off my fevered mind machinations and say it ain't so!
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Well my hometown is just a mile away from a sanctuary city! I'm not comfortable with that at all. If violence should become a daily event, BF and I have discussed moving to another state. I would have to retire, he's already retired. Not my plans for sure.

So I wondered if other members are seeing much violence where they are or if taxes are rising ridiculously? How close is this coming? Is what I am seeing over amplified? It could be. :unsure:
 
chic said:
How is the migrant crisis where you live? Do you see violence in the streets now? Is council housing overwhelmed or are the migrants being sent to hotels at your, the taxpayer's, expense? I wasn't sure how bad this all was until it got here. This could be another life changer for me if it gets any worse. :(
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Not in my area...but all of the above in Many, many areas of the UK... can't expand beause it's a hot political potato for the forum
 
Decades ago after the 1986 congressional immigration legislation, when California was increasingly overrun by illegal immigration, many pleaded for help from media and political powers in the dominant East to enforce and halt it. Instead they just laughed and made jokes. The primary thing that should have occurred was farm labor legislation to allow foreigners from the south to temporarily enter with controls but economic powers were too greedy allied with Wall Street corporations that also wanted cheap labor for their globalization cost competitive agendas. The result was small businesses and retail chains across the country were destroyed, replaced by all the corporations we now are stuck with. Over years the same excessive flood increasingly occurred in other border states and then the East.

The SFBA is absolutely saturated with immigrants that for a long time now also have the political power to keep it that way. In many areas looking at street signs in foreign languages and those people about on streets, one might think they were in a foreign country. That noted, unlike the way such is framed in the national media, there are still plenty of more conservative zones though a minority, that are scared with many fleeing the state.

There are powerful corporations, political groups, that control media, that understand most Americans don't agree with their open borders, visa overstay agendas, so do every thing they can to deflect and hide that reality by pointing blame elsewhere.
 
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I've seen two Hispanics sitting on a bench near the library marveling at their new phones. When my neighbor got new windows, only one of the workers spoke English. When fiber optic cable was being installed on our street, it was the same. Same with roofers on a nearby house. They are coming and will stagnate wages as inflation rises.

If America needs workers, why can't our elected goofballs do legislation to make it orderly and legal. Instead they look away.
 
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Chet said:
If America needs workers, why can't our elected goofballs do legislation to make it orderly and legal. Instead they look away.
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Why should US citizens be willing to accept "entry level" jobs, when they can make more money from our "social" programs? The recent rise in SNAP benefits is a prime example.....if those people need a pay raise, they just have another child....which will likely be raised on the streets, and keep the police busy in the future.
The largest "ethnicity" in California is already Hispanic/Latino, and the SW states....Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas are also seeing a huge rise. I fully agree with the SW politicians bussing huge numbers of these illegals to NY, and other "blue" cities and States....that may be the best way to finally stem this flow.
 
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Why should US citizens be willing to accept "entry level" jobs, when they can make more money from our "social" programs? The recent rise in SNAP benefits is a prime example.....if those people need a pay raise, they just have another child....which will likely be raised on the streets, and keep the police busy in the future.
The largest "ethnicity" in California is already Hispanic/Latino, and the SW states....Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas are also seeing a huge rise. I fully agree with the SW politicians bussing huge numbers of these illegals to NY, and other "blue" cities and States....that may be the best way to finally stem this flow.
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But what does NYC and other blue states and cities do?:oops:
 
Don M. said:
Why should US citizens be willing to accept "entry level" jobs, when they can make more money from our "social" programs? The recent rise in SNAP benefits is a prime example.....if those people need a pay raise, they just have another child....which will likely be raised on the streets, and keep the police busy in the future.
The largest "ethnicity" in California is already Hispanic/Latino, and the SW states....Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas are also seeing a huge rise. I fully agree with the SW politicians bussing huge numbers of these illegals to NY, and other "blue" cities and States....that may be the best way to finally stem this flow.
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Not just the USA you may be relieved or concerned to know...this has been going on for decades in the UK...and not only Immigrants either
 
Here in Canada we have some ethnic groups fighting each other at sporting events. There is a lot more stress, more crime and more violence. I predict more and more of the same in the future. If I had my way I would love to buy some of those water cannons they use in some countries to control violent crime and crazy crowds. Of course, I seldom ever get "my " way! Too Bad!
 
I see so many roofs being put on houses in my area done by Hispanics that work for larger companies.

We also have a large nursery in the area & the majority of the people who work for them are Hispanics. I've been told they have houses there that most of them live in. I don't know if these are single men or if there are families. How many are legal or illegal that work for them, no idea.

Our local Walmart (closest one to the nursery) has a Western Union at the customer service desk. It's not unusual to see Hispanics sending money out of the country to where ever they are from. The money these people earn isn't staying here, it's leaving this country. So saying they are contributing & growing the economy is bull$hit.

I still prefer to use the small business for anything done on my house. I've used the same family-run roofing business for years. The roofer gave us the name to another local business who put in our windows. The window man recommended a contractor who did kitchen & bath remodels.
The remodel man recommended a painter & a carpet installer. All of these small businesses refer people to other small businesses. They all employed legal Americans with quite a few being veterans.

So far, it's been peaceful here.
 
I live in Texas, maybe I am blind but in my town we do not seem to have an immigrant problem. I do see people, men in groups shopping for basic ingriedents, rice, eggs, beans for food.

They are never ugly, rude or causing a problem. I think most of them are here to send money back to their families. They for the most part prefer to stay under the radar.

I am not angry or judgemental about it, if my family was suffering I also would do what ever it takes to make sure they are taken care of. I am sure I will receive a great deal of anger over this. Take a moment and think if your children were hungry, suffering, no place to call home, have clean water, what would you do?
 
Yes, it is the same here @Blessed and I agree. I see many around here that are working on farms and small businesses with no problems, I have known the family that works for me for years, watched their son grow up. They may be legal by now I don't really know, I do know they work very hard, own property, he buys tractors, equipment and trucks
 
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Yes, it is the same here @Blessed and I agree. I see many around here that are working on farms and small businesses with no problems, I have known the family that works for me for years, watched their son grow up. They may be legal by now I don't really know, I do know they work very hard, own property, he buys tractors, equipment and trucks
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That just goes to show not to judge anyone. We don't know what they have been through. We do know when we see hard working people trying to make a better life for themselves and their family.

I see many Americans that don't try to work, improve their situation. They chose to rely on government programs when they can. They do not realize that if they work hard, save, invest that they will have all they require. We, as Americans are not guarenteed the best of everything but we can have a good life if we only try!! I am all for assisting those that are trying but those who don't work, try to contribute to society I just don't get.

How can anyone suceed without hard work? Most us have been there but somehow achieved the dream without putting the effort in. That is all that is needed to have a roof over their head and food on the table. No, we may not drive a fancy car, live in a mansion but we can make sure out families have a good education, have a safe home and medical care when needed. These are the things that most immigrants want.
 
The problems in NYC are so vast all I notice is everything is worse. The traffic, and the new migrants don't own cars so it's not them, has become unbelievably worse, worse, worse. I can't blame the migrants but I'm sick of my whiny Mayor Eric Adams. I've had it with him.
 
I have seen and heard quite a lot of discussions on and offline about this issue... and very often I notice that discussion participants confuse "legal immigrants" and undocumented migrants. There's a place not far from me that makes a big deal out of doing ceremonies for people who have done all the paperwork to become citizens and it's a huge celebration... they are a loved and valuable part of the community.

The issue today with thousands pouring over the border daily is totally different from someone wanting to make a better life for their family and obtaining US citizenship the way it's meant to be obtained.
 
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I haven't seen any migrants here. I doubt there would be any place for them to stay here or our local homeless people would be in there now. I don't think we are a big enough city for any to want to come here.
 
No “crisis” in my neck of the woods. Much of the bad stuff in the UK occurred long before there was any hint of a so called “migrant crisis.” The British layabouts outnumber the hard working migrants.

Britain owes a lot to migrants… without workers from abroad our National Health System would collapse.
Migrants are vital in the hospitality industry and many other businesses.
Why, even our PM comes from a migrant background.
 
I think there is a disconnect between reality and political rhetoric. Yes, immigrants are crime ridden, that's why we should have never let those damn Irish, Germans, Slavs and Italians in, over two hundred years ago. Hell, they couldn't speak proper English. I just can't buy that the natives are so much saintlier than the immigrants that we don't have any home-grown criminals. Are immigrants all over the world having problems assimilating into a new culture? Yes. They are the same problems our ancestors faced when they moved into another part of the globe. Whether we like it or not, waves of immigration are a human trait. If emigration wasn't in our DNA, we'd all be living in one town in southern Africa.
 

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