Now he's claiming that he walked in on the wife who had already strangled one of the daughters and was strangling the other one, He says he was enraged, strangled her and took all the bodies away to hide them. Supposedly he was having an affair and had just asked for a separation. Everything sounds fishy to me, guess we'll wait and see what really happened. More here.
Husband admits to murder of his wife & children.
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terry123
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I don't believe that for a minute!! Will wait for the autopsy reports!!
hollydolly
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I just read that.
My God , it's becoming clearer each day that this man has serious mental health issues. First he kills them, then he accuses his wife of the killings so he kills her in revenge for the murders of his children .. ( like you wouldn't just call the police)... then he's supposedly had an affair ..as well, even though he was clearly having an active sex life with his wife....I bet the woman he was having the affair with is in total shock...that could have been HER he wanted to be rid of one day...
..or ELSE... do you think he's inventing all this stuff so they diagnose him with insanity and he never has to live in the General population of a prison, where he would become the target for the real mean guys!!! No-one in prison likes a Baby killer.. no-one, and he's likely to know that he'll get life without parole, and every day in General population he'll have to have eyes in the back of his head day and night!!!!
RadishRose
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I'll never get used to the fact that parents kill their children. I know it happens but I'm always shocked.
What about that baby monitor- is any of that traceable?
Maybe he killed the children before his wife came home?
What about that baby monitor- is any of that traceable?
Maybe he killed the children before his wife came home?
CindyLouWho
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Since he was having an affair, I think that his wife and kids were now in the way and the final straw was when she told him she was pregnant with the third child, compiled with the financial debt. There are many people out there in financial debt and having affairs and don't resort to killing their wife and spouse or even have the thought cross their mind, so obviously, there is something else going on in his demented brain.
RadishRose
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I agree. The financial situation pushed him close to the edge and the third pregnancy pushed him over the edge; feeling he'd never be free. Sick in the head.
hollydolly
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I have been thinking this all along. Also I wondered if he'd sexually abused one or both which would makes sense of him burying their bodies in the OIL tanker to attempt to remove any DNA... whereas with his wife, as there was no sexual assault and no need to destroy DNA he buried her in a grave and not the oil tank
rgp
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Narcissistic behavior, all they care about are their own needs/feelings, etc. And nothing is to extreme in [their mind] to get what they want. And they also display a personality that they can outsmart the police & never get caught. Once they are caught...in many cases WOW! some of the excuses they come up with.
If he was having an affair? I wonder what his 'other' is thinking now?
RadishRose
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Something to think about, absolutely. I wondered why he buried the wife instead of the oil tank- but wouldn't that take more effort?
hollydolly
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All very possible too... however I feel absolutely sure we will never know the truth. The man has proven just in these last few days to be a compulsive liar, as well as a murderer... by the time he gets to trial he'll have had a very long time to concoct what he'll hope is a far more believable story...
Decades ago there was a news story about a single mother whose new boyfriend didn't like children. So she took her daughter out to the boonies and tried to kill her by hitting her with a large coke bottle. In that case [if I remember correctly] the little girl survived.
"Mental illness" or "temporary insanity" is no excuse to murder. All murderers should be executed.
Today, even in capital punishment states, confessed murderers will plea bargain lesser punishments. Many are given short prison sentences that eventually allows murderers to go free. This is NOT justice... this coddles murderers and perpetuates crime.
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RadishRose
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I see your point, but I'm not going to say mental illness is never the cause.
RadishRose
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I would love to see an interview with the other woman! Surely, she has been questioned.
It could indeed be a "cause"... but it should not be a legal excuse to commit murder with impunity.
Bible law allows no such excuse to escape just punishment.
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How's this for an example... this double murderer's sentence was reduced to manslaughter [because of what was infamously called his "twinkie defense"], was sentenced to only seven years in prison and the murderer was freed after five years.
" Daniel James White was a member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors who killed San Francisco Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk, on Monday, November 27, 1978, at City Hall. In a controversial verdict that led to the coining of the legal slang "Twinkie defense", White was convicted of manslaughter rather than murder in the deaths of Milk and Moscone. White served five years of a seven-year prison sentence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_White
"Twinkie defense"
"... a term coined by reporters during their coverage of the trial of defendant Dan White for the murders of San Francisco city Supervisor Harvey Milk and Mayor George Moscone. White's defense was that he suffered diminished capacity as a result of his depression. His change in diet from healthful food to Twinkies and other sugary foods was said to be a symptom of depression."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twinkie_defense
How's this for an example... this double murderer's sentence was reduced to manslaughter [because of what was infamously called his "twinkie defense"], was sentenced to only seven years in prison and the murderer was freed after five years.
" Daniel James White was a member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors who killed San Francisco Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk, on Monday, November 27, 1978, at City Hall. In a controversial verdict that led to the coining of the legal slang "Twinkie defense", White was convicted of manslaughter rather than murder in the deaths of Milk and Moscone. White served five years of a seven-year prison sentence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_White
"Twinkie defense"
"... a term coined by reporters during their coverage of the trial of defendant Dan White for the murders of San Francisco city Supervisor Harvey Milk and Mayor George Moscone. White's defense was that he suffered diminished capacity as a result of his depression. His change in diet from healthful food to Twinkies and other sugary foods was said to be a symptom of depression."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twinkie_defense
hollydolly
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Oh I would sincerely hope so...since he confessed to having an affair, the Police surely must have to consider the other piece a possible accessory , so they must have had her in for questioning. Who knows maybe she was complicit we don't know yet!!
AprilT
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I hate that this was one of my first thoughts, but, it was as I couldn't see any other reason to get rid of all of them in the way he did. Maybe the mother returned from her trip caught him in the act, who knows, maybe it was nothing of the kind, but as I mentioned in my earlier post on the matter, my gut feeling is those girls had, in some way, not been living the happy life some thought.
I try not to speculate on cases without having clear evidence, but, this involving children as it has just, has me asking these kinds of questions as I can't get those little faces out of my mind. Just all around senseless.
hollydolly
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Your thoughts were exactly along the same lines as mine ..!! I watched the child sing the song in the car about her father, but she seemed shy about singing it..fair enough she 's only 4 but I noticed the elder girl also looked afraid in a photo taken of the 2 children..the younger looked happy and carefree but the elder looked timid and afraid.. I know that look from personal experience, and ..so it made me wonder right from the get go.
God help me I hope that , this isn't the case..and they never had to suffer in that way before they're untimely deaths..
These are my thoughts as well..There were so many other alternatives out there to fix the situation.....He was SICK and full of EVIL.
Giantsfan1954
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Diane Downs was one,she shot 2 of her 3 kids in a car because her latest love didn't like kids,she was in the Midwest somewhere.
Alice Drummond was another in NYC in the 60s.
Alice Drummond was another in NYC in the 60s.
