I try not to interfere with diaries, but I just have to comment only ecspecially because you had a comment in return. Tell me, just tell me with proof and evidence, what atheist told you that they blame God for not existing? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Maybe it was an agonist? That I might I kind of believe. I do understand that's it's okay to talk a about religion here but not to the extent that it should be allowed to diss anyones else's belief or unbelief. That's my opinion.Do atheists blame God for not existing?
Discussion is different to debate.Hypo, religious discussion is not banned here. Only politics.
This forum does allow debate on such things.
Some people, like myself, may not care to, but it is "allowed".
I'm curious as to why you thought it was not.
What makes you think I am not a Christian? Oh, because I am not Lara? May I suggest you open up your mind as you suggest I do the same.with all due respect Olivia i would prefer to discuss this with other Christians like Lara. Of course you are free to comment. Just dont be offended if I dont respond to your posts. May i suggest joining a forum which allows debate on such things.
I mostly agree BUT what is missing are the words "Love" and "Forgiveness". That's what our main focus should be on with regard to Christ's suffering. How much pain wasn't the point and wasn't being measured. It was God's Love for us that was being measured, for ALL sins and sinners, to be freelyForgiven. That was the measure. The greatest gift ever (our only part is to receive it).We are encouraged to think of Jesus Christ when we suffer. But sometimes people actually suffer more than Jesus Christ did. Long term suffering such as Motor Neurone Disease. So Jesus' suffering is not meant to be some kind of benchmark we must aspire to. It is God showing us that He understands our suffering. He wants to share in our suffering.
And we forget that His suffering was not just physical. He suffered emotionally by watching His mother watch him die. He suffered humiliation when they mocked him and spat on Him.
The most disturbing book I have read is, Johnny Got His Gun, by Dalton Trumbo. It should be a forced reading for every politician who voted to send a young man to war. Anyway off subject, .....I have the Bible on my nightstand the other I placed in trash, all other books I have read were recycled.no I haven't norman. you recommend it? by Charles Darwin?
Without Faith, Logic leads me to the same conclusion. There is no way this intelligent design and order of creation was a result of some random Big Chaotic Bang and Luck, using your word. That sounds like something man's finite mind would come up with. Who made the bang? Who created luck? Who created the energy? Who created the mass? Look around you. Look inside you. Feel Love. Don't you see the wonder of it all?...Faith allows us to believe the Bible's teachings.
Without that faith, logic leads us to believe the end of life is the end of everything.
No purpose to life and as in the animal kingdom, luck and survival is what matters...