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Senate OKs Republican balanced-budget plan, following House


By ALAN FRAM
Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - Republicans muscled a balanced-budget plan through the Senate early Friday, positioning Congress for months of battling President Barack Obama over the GOP's goals of slicing spending and dismantling his health care law.

Working into Friday's pre-dawn hours, senators approved the blueprint by a near party-line 52-46 vote, endorsing a measure that closely follows one the House passed Wednesday. Both budgets embody a conservative vision of shrinking projected federal deficits by more than $5 trillion over the coming decade, mostly by cutting health care and other benefit programs and without raising taxes.

The Senate was beginning a spring recess after approving the measure, leaving Congress' two GOP-run chambers to negotiate a compromise budget in mid-April. The legislation is a non-binding blueprint that does not require Obama's signature but lays the groundwork for future bills that seem destined for veto fights with the president.
"Republicans have shown that the Senate is under new management and delivering on the change and responsible government the American people expect," said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

Democrats viewed the document differently, saying it relied on gimmickry and touted the wrong priorities.
"The budget we passed today is irresponsible and fails to effectively invest in our future," said Sen. Barbara Mikulski, D-Md.
The budget's solidly ideological tenor contrasted with a bipartisan bill the House overwhelmingly approved Thursday permanently blocking perennial cuts in physicians' Medicare fees. It too will wait until April for final congressional approval by the Senate, with McConnell saying his chamber will handle it "very quickly when we get back."

Though doctors face a 21 percent cut in Medicare fees April 1, the government can delay processing those payments until Congress' return. The measure, which also provides money for health care programs for children and low-income people, would be partly financed with higher premiums for top-earning Medicare recipients.

On the budget, only two Republicans voted no: Sens. Ted Cruz of Texas and Rand Paul of Kentucky, a pair of presidential hopefuls. Two other potential GOP presidential candidates, Sens. Marco Rubio of Florida and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, voted yes.
All voting Democrats were opposed.

The Senate completed its budget work after enduring one of its more painful traditions: A multi-hour "vote-a-rama" in which senators repeatedly debate and vote on a pile of non-binding amendments well past midnight. Senators offer the amendments because the votes can demonstrate support for a policy or be used to embarrass opponents in future campaigns.

Those approved included one by Sen. Brian Schatz, D-Hawaii, entitling married same-sex couples to Social Security and veterans' spousal benefits. It got 11 GOP votes, including from several Republicans facing competitive re-elections next year.
Also adopted was one by McConnell aimed at thwarting Obama administration efforts to reduce coal pollution.

Congress' GOP budgets both matched the spending plan that Obama presented last month when it comes to defense, proposing $612 billion for next year, a 4.5 percent boost over current levels. Some conservatives were unhappy because they wanted more of the extra military spending to be offset with savings from elsewhere in the budget.
But mostly, the Republican blueprints diverge starkly from Obama's fiscal plan.
While his leaves a projected deficit exceeding $600 billion 10 years from now, the Senate plan claims a surplus of $3 billion.

Over the decade, Obama would raise $2 trillion in higher taxes from the wealthy, corporations and smokers while granting tax breaks to low-income and middle-class families. He would boost spending on domestic programs including road construction, preschools and community colleges and veterans.
The Senate budget would cut $4.3 trillion from benefit programs over the next 10 years, including annulling Obama's health care law, a step the president would without doubt veto.

Those savings would include $431 billion from Medicare, matching Obama's figure. The House budget would pare $148 billion from the health care program for the elderly and convert it into a voucher-like program for future beneficiaries, a step the Senate shunned.

The Senate budget would cut $236 billion from the budgets of nondefense agencies. The House would go even further, slicing $759 billion.
White House press secretary Josh Earnest said in a statement that the Senate-passed budget "relies on top-down economics and gimmicks," and "refuses to ask the wealthy to contribute a single dollar to deficit reduction." Earnest said the Senate bill would lock in severe spending cuts "to investments in the middle class like education, job training and manufacturing," and it fails to "responsibly fund our national security."

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This budget constitutes little more than a Republican wet dream that they can show their base and keep them from getting restless while nothing gets really accomplished in the chambers of Congress.

But we better hope we have the Presidency and veto power after the President leaves office, because these clowns will have 4 years in the senate left of their terms.
 

Sure glad to see some sense being presented in the Congress. We need more of it. We also know that until Obama is gone not much, if any, of these ideas will ever get done. Sadly for the future of the US these unexplained and unneeded debts will go on.
 
Sure glad to see some sense being presented in the Congress. We need more of it. We also know that until Obama is gone not much, if any, of these ideas will ever get done. Sadly for the future of the US these unexplained and unneeded debts will go on.

*eyes roll and begin to slowly glaze over*
 
OH OH, reality is finally getting to Jim. We do need to correct Obama's errors but that won't happen till he is gone. I think even real Democrats will help to relieve some of Obama's bad errors. He is playing dictator and not being a President as he should.
 
Obama doesn't even have the courage to stand up and tell it like it is. Obama just ignores public speech's, ignores Congress, and just spends, spends, spends, and on what does he spend on. He does not tell us that either. Our debts just go way up for no real reasons. Not quite two years left of Obama. Then, with a Democrat or Republican the country will be a lot better off.
 
Oh that is OK. Rather nice of you to say so. But as soon as Obama is gone, you and I will both be better off. You should be able to see that yourself.
 
Obama has been a breath of fresh air, after 8 years of deceit and wanton squandering of the nations assets by "dubya'. But, the GOP organization is adept at "fooling some of the people..." with their advanced spin skills. Maybe people will not tolerate a return to the "rob from the middleclass and give to the rich" policies that the GOP embraces.
 
Working into Friday's pre-dawn hours, senators approved the blueprint by a near party-line 52-46 vote, endorsing a measure that closely follows one the House passed Wednesday. Both budgets embody a conservative vision of shrinking projected federal deficits by more than $5 trillion over the coming decade, mostly by cutting health care and other benefit programs and without raising taxes.

This is roughly what happened over here when the Liberal/National government was elected. Their 2014-2015 budget was a shocker, breaking many of their election promises, making cuts that affect the least able to bear them and refusing to close tax loopholes and benefits to the wealthy. There was much made of the "budget emergency" and the "debt and deficit disaster" inherited from the previous Labor government.

The public was outraged at the unfairness of it all and the government was unable to push the worst of it through the Senate. Now, less than two months before the next budget is announced, they are still unable to implement the last one.

The rhetoric has changed though. In spite of the fact that the debt has increased and there is no surplus in sight, suddenly the budget is no longer "in crisis". It is now "under control and manageable" and the 2015-2016 budget will be "dull" and "much less exhilarating" compared to last year's.

The hypocrisy of politicians can be staggering at times. They must have zero capacity to take a hard look at themselves and see themselves as others do.
 
It's all over and the conservative government has been returned but with a hefty swing against it.
The history is that we've had an independent corruption inquiry that caught out politicians from both sides and both leaders were new to their positions. The previous election saw the Labor Party reduced to an ineffective rump but they are now restored enough to form an effective Opposition.

My electorate should have returned to Labor: it was the seat with the narrowest majority (2 party preferred). However, our sitting member appears to have run the dirtiest campaign in NSW history against a very decent opponent.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/nsw-state...re-all-nnn-nnn-vars-o&sa=D&usg=ALhdy28zsr6qiq

I'm livid because Glenn Brookes is a real dud and Cameron Murphy would have been a ray of sunshine.
 
When I see some of the nonsense these politicians are coming up with....all over the world...I am often reminded of the words Sean Connery spoke in the final moments of the movie Red October...."Sometimes a Little Revolution Can Be a Healthy Thing". If things keep going the way they are, and these politicians continue to be nothing but Puppets for the Wealthy, the day may come when it becomes necessary to bring out the Guillotines.
 
Amazing, the Republicans have only had control of Congress for a few months and this is the best you got?
BTW..Im not for either party,Im an independent and believe in giving the party of the people's choice a chance to see what they can really do.
Come back in a year and see what they accomplished if anything.
 
Davey Jones, you speak so well about our Congress. They do need time to do things different than the past Congress with a do nothing Senate in it. But I do think Warrigal might have been talking about her own newly elected government in Australia. She will correct me if I am wrong.
 
Dame Warrigal, I'm afraid you're stuck with these conservative guys and gals. It's been fun to watch some of the Labor gents and ladies react on some of those Australian forums. I've evened learned some new words.
 
Dame Warrigal, I'm afraid you're stuck with these conservative guys and gals. It's been fun to watch some of the Labor gents and ladies react on some of those Australian forums. I've evened learned some new words.

:lofl: Careful where you use those new words.
They could get you into trouble.

I'm not at all worried that NSW has re-elected a conservative government. It is in fact quite moderate and will govern well.
There has been a cleanout of corrupt ministers recently and the leader is quite sound as far as I know.

The Labor leader is very new to the job and his party is not yet ready to resume office.
Labor has also had a cleanout as the result of the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC).
I recommend such a standing commission. It has wide powers to call witnesses, investigate and collect evidence but does not prosecute.
The Commission refers matters to the police who must mount their own prosecutions.
However, by shining a very bright light on politicians, police officials etc, it is very effective in weeding out the corruot ones.

The inept and incompetent are a matter for the voters.
 
Oh that is OK. Rather nice of you to say so. But as soon as Obama is gone, you and I will both be better off. You should be able to see that yourself.

Any American who suggests the "problem" is the President, not wishing to consider the entire political arena, is not being truthful or living in reality. Before this President was inagurated, a partisan cult stated that they were sworn to make certain his tenure in office was a failure. The first 4 years was nothing but obstructionism by that same partisan group. Now that we do have both houses of Congress controlled by the Republicans, hopefully, some good legislation can come through the system. It's not started off that way. We continue to hear "defund/repeal Obamacare". We have seen traitorous Senators send a letter to a sworn enemy suggesting they would try to undo any negotiations by this Administration. Those are not acts that pull the Country together. Those are acts the will only continue the divisiveness.

This constant and consistent obsessiveness with the President really bothers me. Most of those suggesting nothing will get better until this President is gone offer no solutions to the issues of this Country or the global problems. It has become an empty echo, that does nothing but continue spiking hatred and animosity between neighbors and fellow citizens. Rather than pull together for the good of the Country, it seems to have become "en vogue" to show a derangement syndrome against a duly and legally elected leader of our Country.

Our son is currently deployed with the U.S. Army. Due to the mission of his unit, we do not know where he is or for how long. All we know is that he has been deployed numerous times, in harm's way, performing the mission handed to he and his unit. Our son will not discuss politics. Try to engage him in a talk about Presidential politics and he becomes quite agitated. "If I hesitate because I have doubts about the President or Congress or any political ongoings... I'm dead. I'm a soldier and a proud American. My soldiers depend on me to be a leader, not a politician. Don't ask me again about politics."

So, instead of offering alternative solutions for affordable medical insurance or how to best defeat those who would wipe any free country from the face of the Earth or how to keep Americans from killing each other in the streets of our home towns... it's just easier to blame the President and say all will be better when he is gone. That is NOT pulling together as Americans. That is simply falling victim to those whose fortunes are made in a media where a more agitated public relates to a larger viewing audience.
 
It's not the President who has to take the blame for our current worthless government....rather it is our Bullheaded Two Party System that is run by extremists who can only sit around and point fingers at the other side. Politics is supposed to be the Art of Compromise. but that theory has long ago been forgotten by these professional politicians that occupy Washington. We could sorely use a strong 3rd Party which could insure that No One party can gain a majority, and they would Have to work together to find solutions. I would also like to see a complete ban on private donations to political campaigns...and instead each candidate be given a fixed amount of Tax Dollars to run their campaign. That would go a long way towards blunting the control the Oligarchy has over our government, and perhaps return some concern about the average/working people to the halls of Congress.
 


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