I'm so mad Remembrance Day

LoveTulips

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So I was on my local community FB group and someone posted a photo of a crosswalk in Hamilton, Ontario that had a soldier painted in the crosswalk with the quotation, "lest we forget." Anyways, there was one person who posted a laughing emoji regarding the above. Another person posted something about being indigenous and the atrocities that happened to them should be highlighted rather than people who fought in WW I and WW II. Another poster said that since the crosswalk was painted in front of the Immigration Office, then that it is insulting to the immigrants newly coming into Canada as they are supposed to be so thankful to be here. Well, yes, they should be thankful. What the hell is wrong with these people??
 

Looking at the mess that the no longer 'Great' Britain is in, I sometimes wonder how much worse things would have been.
Indeed, politicians the worst fools, who only fool themselves. UK decimated. Unable to watch Cenotaph Parade this year, it is nauseating to have them take precedence over those who really served and sacrificed. They do not represent the country, just themselves.
 
Ignorance is a choice nowadays, too lazy to search things out for themselves or to question what they have been taught. How interested they are determines how much they want to know. In a make believe world of their own.
I didn't mean figuratively I meant literally.. I have never read about ( aside from young lunatics that know no better).. about Brits who wish Hitler had won... !..why would anyone have wanted that
 
I didn't mean figuratively I meant literally.. I have never read about ( aside from young lunatics that know no better).. about Brits who wish Hitler had won... !..why would anyone have wanted that
Hitler believed Aryan race was superior, guess others have the same thoughts.
 
Ignorance is a choice nowadays, too lazy to search things out for themselves or to question what they have been taught. How interested they are determines how much they want to know. In a make believe world of their own.
Wouldn't you rather have a great fictional myth than cold hard facts of our world in the state it is in?
 
What the hell is wrong with these people??
Ans. They're human. There's always 5-10%, who dance to a different drummer. It's no use trying to get to them, logic and facts don't have any impact.
Sadly, those are the folks that get most of our attention.

A version of the old 80/20 rule.

20% of the people create 80% of the problems or 20% of the people make 80% of the noise, etc…
 
My Father ( yes you read that correctly ) served in the Canadian Army in The Great War, as a member of the Canadian Machine Gun Corps, from October the 15th of 1915, to his eventual return to Toronto on the 19th of July in 1919. He added a year to his age in order to appear to be 18. He was at all of the major battles that the Canadians were involved in, including the stunning victory at Vimy ridge on April the 8th of 1917. The French and then the British had attacked the ridge in the past, and both armies had failed to take this commanding ridge in northern France.

For the first time in the war, the entire 4 Infantry Divisions of the Canadian Army would attack as one huge force of 80,000 men. Previously the Canadians had fought under British command. This time, everything would be planned and executed by the Canadians themselves. The planning started 5 months before hand, with nightly trench raids by the Canadians, who were taking German prisoners for intelligence information, and to map out the enemy trench systems. Far to the rear of the front lines, practice areas were laid out to allow individual infantry companies to rehearse their attacks over and over again, following the advance timing of moving a hundred yards every 3 minutes, tight behind the creeping barrage of the artillery guns.

In a radical departure from British Army doctrine at that time, the Canadian Army printed and distributed 40 thousand maps of the attack formation's landscape. Every Corporal in charge of a ten man section had his own map, showing his start line, all the intermediate targets along the way, and his eventual location at the top of the Ridge. In the months before the attack, the Canadian artillery spotters built a giant map showing all of the German artillery gun positions, using new technology, including sound recording equipment, and gun flash triangulation mathematics.

Tunnels were dug under the German trenches at depths of 100 feet, by special companies of Canadian miners, which were either filled with explosives to be blown on the morning of the attack, or to be used to get a thousand men 400 yards closer to the ridge when they came up out of the tunnels.

On April the 8th of 1917, at 530 am, 983 artillery guns opened fire on Vimy Ridge, and 150 Vickers machine guns also opened fire. In the first 90 minutes of the attack, the guns took out 85 percent of the German artillery guns, and the machine guns fired a mazing SEVEN MILLION ROUNDS of 303 ammunition at the German trench system. This kept the Germans deep in their dugouts, while the first wave of the Canadian infantry were moving forward, behind their creeping barrage of protective shell fire. The new number 106 artillery fuse was doing it's job of cutting through the barbed wire barriers .

Each of the Canadian Battalions had special groups made up of light machine gunners, hand grenade men, rifle grenadiers, and men with 10 pound explosive charges to blow the German strong points. The basic tactic was "reinforce success, not failure.

By noon, the Ridge was in Canadian hands. They had been victorious, at the place where both the French and the British had failed, and they did it with one hundred thousand men FEWER than the British had used. A triumph, the first clear cut victory by an Allied force, since the start of the war in 1914. This victory at Vimy Ridge, elevated Canada from being a British Colony, to being a true nation. Vimy Ridge is where Canada became " The True North Strong And Free ". As a result, Canada was asked to be a signator to the Treaty of Versailles in Paris in 1919. This was a recognition of our emerging status in the world.

Oh, yes, my Father survived the war, although he was wounded 3 times, and lost his hearing in his right ear. Firing a few million rounds of machine gun ammunition will do that to your ears, right? I was born in 1946 from his second marriage. Dad lived to age 83, dying in Toronto in 1981. He was all ways proud to say that "He was a Vimy Man". John Carl Bunting 201018 4th Battalion Canadian Machine Gun Corps. JIMB.
 
I guess you have similar freedom of speech in Canada? I'm not sure.

But with the immigration person, that's total virtue signaling: "see how cool I am on the internet." Then you got some narcissism, again all about them.

The laughing emote: Tiny tiny chance they hit the wrong one by mistake but probably not. Just a jerk.

As far as the Native person, I mean what happened on this continent is horrendous. I'm just a white person but the Native American people I have known certainly don't do flip outs on me. One co-worker has talked with me about going to some ceremonies and another explained her very unusual last name to me. She said where her people come there are a number of people with this last name. Oklahoma I think.
 
Grateful that, unlike others around the world. have not faced the horror of war.

“No one won the last war, and no one will win the next war.”​

― Eleanor Roosevelt,
 
It does make you wonder why we bothered. There are many people here in Britain who think we should have left Hitler to just do as he wished. What state would Europe be in now?
More buildings would be left standing but freedom would be gone, including in the British Isles.

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
 
Speak for yourself and for your country. In my country, which I believe is part of the world, we honour the fallen in both world wars, and in other conflicts since. As for mythology, we keep very good records of the historical facts.

Home | Australian War Memorial
I wasn't speaking for a country, I was agreeing with the point that people would rather accept a fantasy about something than find out for themselves what they are even thinking about. As far as war stories, there are millions in our country. A lot of them are fantasy. You have to really know your history to get it right.
 

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