Interesting Video Making a Good Point

The internet and social websites are, at times, hard to take. I think it is so because it is a new way of interacting socially. With time, I think we will all get used to it and know how to handle it. But, like all things it will take time to learn how 'to ride', like a bicycle. The more experience we get as both individuals or as groups the better we will get in keeping it in perspective. In the meantime I can only suggestion: enjoy the ride.
 
When I watch people saying and doing stupid thing to impress others, I have come to the conclusion to dismiss them. My conclusion is that those people are stupid. People believe what to believe in even if it is a stupid unfounded belief. Just stay back and watch them self-destruct with mental and physical problems that they have brought on themselves. They are total nut jobs and just wait to see what happens to them in the future. A few of them have had mental breakdowns and there are more on the way.
 

feywon said:
Just 4 minutes 6 seconds long. I watch a lot of SciShow videos and this guy one of their presenters. The way i am about nature i could have enjoyed it just for the visuals. But he also makes a good point about internet communications, interactions.

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I loved the frogs while listening! The yellow ones were interesting, and the gray mother frog with the baby was interesting also.
 
Social Media is often mistaken as a modern take on socializing - but it's actually nothing like it. For a start, the word "socializing" doesn't often apply on Social Media, there's not a lot of social activity going on, it's more open warfare. Anti-social media, as I call it.

But there are other key differences. For a start, when getting together with others in real life on a social basis, I don't recall being targeted with tailored ads every moment of the experience. I'm also not being led around by algorithms that constantly attempt to push me to other places "I might like". I've done a lot of socializing, and the only person making any money out of it was the publican!

Mind you, I'm a curmudgeon, I guess. I never found a good reason to have a Facebook account, and since I don't want to spend time on my phone I don't do snapchat, Instagram, Tik Tok, and the likes. I know people like to "keep in touch" via Facebook, but anyone who knows me will know what I'm doing to a sufficient extent already. They certainly don't need to know where I'm going this afternoon, what I'm eating, and what I think of whatever the latest viral content is.

Social Media is no substitute for socializing.
 
feywon said:
Just 4 minutes 6 seconds long. I watch a lot of SciShow videos and this guy one of their presenters. The way i am about nature i could have enjoyed it just for the visuals. But he also makes a good point about internet communications, interactions.

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I love how his frog's expressions matched what he was saying the frog at :58 rolling his eyes is the best. :)
 
VaughanJB said:
Social Media is often mistaken as a modern take on socializing - but it's actually nothing like it. For a start, the word "socializing" doesn't often apply on Social Media, there's not a lot of social activity going on, it's more open warfare. Anti-social media, as I call it.

But there are other key differences. For a start, when getting together with others in real life on a social basis, I don't recall being targeted with tailored ads every moment of the experience. I'm also not being led around by algorithms that constantly attempt to push me to other places "I might like". I've done a lot of socializing, and the only person making any money out of it was the publican!

Mind you, I'm a curmudgeon, I guess. I never found a good reason to have a Facebook account, and since I don't want to spend time on my phone I don't do snapchat, Instagram, Tik Tok, and the likes. I know people like to "keep in touch" via Facebook, but anyone who knows me will know what I'm doing to a sufficient extent already. They certainly don't need to know where I'm going this afternoon, what I'm eating, and what I think of whatever the latest viral content is.

Social Media is no substitute for socializing.
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You make some good points but you are overlooking that for some of us the draw of Social Media is that we do not have to go out to crowded, noises places that often have as many strangers as people we know. The only time i enjoyed that sort thing is when i was young, single and childless living in NYC then Honolulu. i retired to a very small town because i really don't feel comfortable in crowds.

For some of us, being able to control our personal space while still being able to meet new people and get new perspectives on various topics is good thing. Plus it's global so if one can't afford extensive travel you can still get perspectives on your country from those in other countries and learn about their cultures. Actually online you probably get to know folks from other countries better than you might as a tourist unless you're an atypical tourist.--An Anthony Bourdain like one.

In early 2000s i belonged to Eons, a 'senior site' that closed around 2012-13. Many of those folks migrated to FB and most of us are in couple of FB groups--where you get fewer ads and fewer random people joining the thread. Some of us have talked to each other on the phone, and even met in person when one of us was traveling.

FB is the simplest way to keep in touch with my sons (who live in other states) and extended family scattered around country and globe. (i'm still in touch with my first In-Laws). My boys and i use FB messenger because they're not ones for letters/emailing. We don't have to worry about time differences or work schedules. We can leave our message and know the other will respond when they can. No voice mail to leave or listen to...feels more direct.

i tend to story-telling, they're true--but stories all the same. Online i don't feel bad that i'm monopolizing a gathering, talking too much--because i know people can skip it if they don't enjoy it or like me; just as i can skip comments or whole threads that either don't interest or are somehow 'triggering' for me.

About triggering, between chronic depression and realizing in last few years that i'm some kind of neuro-divergent--online is more comfortable precisely because it has kind of built in 'count to 10' effect. At least for me because i have to be really upset to not choose my words carefully and proofread. Not that i don't still have reactions to how some people talk to others and me--but for the most part it is much easier to take a breath and think about IF i really need/want to respond and how.
 
I find it a little disappointing that so many issues are so immediately "controversial". Like the video says. The more it is controversial ( which now can be literally anything ), the more reactionary comments follow. We are losing the ability to have civil discussions that MUST take place if we are to grow as a society. We can't be the three monkeys, or we have dumbed our culture down.

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feywon said:
You make some good points but you are overlooking that for some of us the draw of Social Media is that we do not have to go out to crowded, noises places that often have as many strangers as people we know. The only time i enjoyed that sort thing is when i was young, single and childless living in NYC then Honolulu. i retired to a very small town because i really don't feel comfortable in crowds.

For some of us, being able to control our personal space while still being able to meet new people and get new perspectives on various topics is good thing. Plus it's global so if one can't afford extensive travel you can still get perspectives on your country from those in other countries and learn about their cultures. Actually online you probably get to know folks from other countries better than you might as a tourist unless you're an atypical tourist.--An Anthony Bourdain like one.

In early 2000s i belonged to Eons, a 'senior site' that closed around 2012-13. Many of those folks migrated to FB and most of us are in couple of FB groups--where you get fewer ads and fewer random people joining the thread. Some of us have talked to each other on the phone, and even met in person when one of us was traveling.

FB is the simplest way to keep in touch with my sons (who live in other states) and extended family scattered around country and globe. (i'm still in touch with my first In-Laws). My boys and i use FB messenger because they're not ones for letters/emailing. We don't have to worry about time differences or work schedules. We can leave our message and know the other will respond when they can. No voice mail to leave or listen to...feels more direct.

i tend to story-telling, they're true--but stories all the same. Online i don't feel bad that i'm monopolizing a gathering, talking too much--because i know people can skip it if they don't enjoy it or like me; just as i can skip comments or whole threads that either don't interest or are somehow 'triggering' for me.

About triggering, between chronic depression and realizing in last few years that i'm some kind of neuro-divergent--online is more comfortable precisely because it has kind of built in 'count to 10' effect. At least for me because i have to be really upset to not choose my words carefully and proofread. Not that i don't still have reactions to how some people talk to others and me--but for the most part it is much easier to take a breath and think about IF i really need/want to respond and how.
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Some good points, and some disagreement. Sure, you get to "meet" people online, but for me you're not really meeting them. In other words, socializing, as in getting together with people and talking, is a different experience. If you don't want to meet people in crowded, noisy, places - ask to meet somewhere else. :)

My mates and I often would get together just to listen to music, for example. So you'd go to their home, play music, chat. You could emulate that on the net by using Zoom and streaming, but it wouldn't be the same thing, just a similar thing. I'm not sure there's any substitute for actually meeting people.

I also don't consider email to be social media, it's a long form communication method, and one I enjoy quite a bit. As I said, if people want to contact me they're going to visit, phone, or email. If they want to use Facebook, Tik Tok or whatever, then I'm out, because I don't have an account. I tried Twitter (now X) and found it to be a really poor way to communicate.

Of course, it could also be that I simply have nothing to broadcast to the internet. My life is very simple!!
 
@Paco Dennis True. Nothing can be fixed unless the problem is at least acknowledged. This is one reason i cherish cyber friends from Eons days, like @OneEyedDiva. Because we can discuss things civilly even when we disagree. And many of us from that group that migrated to FB are the same. Some of us, even if we have same basic feeling about a topic will discuss how it might look to people with different life experiences than we've had.
 
Paco Dennis said:
I find it a little disappointing that so many issues are so immediately "controversial". Like the video says. The more it is controversial ( which now can be literally anything ), the more reactionary comments follow. We are losing the ability to have civil discussions that MUST take place if we are to grow as a society. We can't be the three monkeys, or we have dumbed our culture down.

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The thing is, the Social Media platforms have no incentive to curtail drama. In fact, they want it. Viral videos and drama means more clicks, more eyeballs. They don't temper these things through moderation because it's simply not in their interest to do so. I see a lot of "right fighting" online, which basically means someone isn't listening or at all interested in alternative views. You see, it's not about conversing with someone, it's about likes, and views.

Far too much on Social Media are avatars or people. Within the next few years - and I'm talking 5 years or less - you and aren't going to be able to know the difference between an AI bot on Social Media and a real person. It'll be able to converse like everyone else. This opens up situations where you might be living in a world of code.....
 
I have experimented with this AI conversation. When using my smartphone when I go to post something I start out and then use the words suggested by AI to construct the sentence. It is not what I would naturally say, and it takes on a rather sterile sound. It tries to be politically correct . Maybe THAT is the only way to have civil discourse is to let the politically/social correct AI have the discussion. Maybe it will become the only way we are going to be able to exchange information without somebody posting such reactionary and emotionally charged responses. :)
 
VaughanJB said:
I never found a good reason to have a Facebook account, and since I don't want to spend time on my phone I don't do snapchat, Instagram, Tik Tok.
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What he said is my take on multiple internet use. A forum like this is all I care to use for expressing an opinion.
 

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