Is the basic relationship of young males and young females significantly different than from in our day?

I think it is, profoundly.

There are many possible reasons, but it looks to me like on the basic instinctual level the young females are not feeling the flattery interest of young males, and this is truly sad.

Do you see something like this? What do you suppose is happening? I've got my own ideas but would like to hear the thoughts of others.
 
Each generation changes.

I imagine there are some changes, but I haven't seen "significant" changes.

"young females are not feeling the flattery interest of young males, and this is truly sad."
I don't agree with this. If it were happening, I don't feel it is "truly sad'.
 
I want to qualify this.

I have a daughter, I've seen her friends. In my judgment, they are heterosexually motivated young females--there is not any obvious preference or aversion to young men--quite the contrary in many cases. By contrast, my brother's daughter, about 31, was recently married to another young woman, and the behavioral differences, while not marked or exaggerated, we evident.

So I'm limiting the discussion to heterosexually aligned young males and females.

I've once participated in a questionnaire of social appropriateness with my daughter, and was surprised as how negatively she viewed such normal practices from my day like a male in initiating a conversation on a long elevator passage, or in line at a coffee shop, etc.

Now, almost always the responses I got ranged from friendly to a bit reserved--which I took to mean that I should not extend the conversation. But to her and other of her peers, this was categorized on the survey as "creepy".

It's very difficult for me to get boxed in with people, like on an elevator or in a closed conveyance, and not at least initiate a conversation, which I'll quickly break off if I detect any alarm (this has never happened) or aloofness--which I take to be a female's tasteful way of limiting the exchange. For me to ignore others, male or female, artificially is disrespectful; they deserve at least acknowledgement for their existence.

Also, meeting males at bars or other social venues is thought to be abnormal. Introductions must come first (not a bad idea) and this is most often thru social media, not directly.

But the real core of the problem (if it is one) is that males, for whatever reason, are not taking the traditional initiative--they do not make reasonable approaches. Perhaps this is fear of being rebuffed (this is always a male fear, but eventually you get over it), or worse, they simply watch too much online porn. I hope this is not the case, but..

Anyway, this is what I think I'm seeing.
 
Each generation changes.

I imagine there are some changes, but I haven't seen "significant" changes.

"young females are not feeling the flattery interest of young males, and this is truly sad."
I don't agree with this. If it were happening, I don't feel it is "truly sad'.
OK.

But let me ask: do heterosexual females sometimes find detectable but tasteful interest shown by acceptable males to be, well, interesting or flattering. You know, in a sort of deep basic way?

I think that for a long time I misjudged female response, thinking that it was like the common male heterosexual drive. This is mistaken, I now believe. It's a far different set of motivations/responses, having evolved due to differing social roles.
 
I think it's a different time than when we were young. The problem is, it's now a contest how many you can sleep with.
I think that I see the hook-up as a valid relationship. It's sorta like masturbation in that it is without emotional involvement.

Here's another wrinkle--I see it as an indicator, but...

Fewer popular songs are around romantic ideas of love. For a period, when alternative was bigger, it all seemed very introspective and angst-filled.

Compare this to 50/60/70s songs, and before. Almost all of the stuff was about boy/girl.

We had some people over last night for New Years and some college-aged kids came and I watched them. This is what triggered today's outburst.
 
I think that I see the hook-up as a valid relationship. It's sorta like masturbation in that it is without emotional involvement.

Here's another wrinkle--I see it as an indicator, but...

Fewer popular songs are around romantic ideas of love. For a period, when alternative was bigger, it all seemed very introspective and angst-filled.

Compare this to 50/60/70s songs, and before. Almost all of the stuff was about boy/girl.

We had some people over last night for New Years and some college-aged kids came and I watched them. This is what triggered today's outburst.
I think your observations as valid. The "hook-up" without emotional involvement seems to be the "trend".
It's a new world and I no more understand the way mankind is heading, nor can I judge because this is
"their" life, not mine.
 
Seems to me things are very different for young people these days. Teenage pregnancies are way down. I don't have children/grandchildren but do have some friends in their 20s, young women who think nothing of declaring themselves bisexual. When I was young (long ago), I don't believe I ever heard that expressed out loud or even hinted at. It seems that youngsters are much more open minded to all sorts of relationships. I think it's a human response, and a pretty healthy one, to human population pressures on the planet.
 
West Coast, in a small, very rural desert community.
Live in Portland, OR.

We take road trips in the spring and fall, often to places like Idaho, Montana, etc. and things look at least recognizable when we walk around in the towns/cites there.

I wonder if what I'm seeing is a feature of the blue state metropolises. My daughter went to a small liberal arts college in NY, and it sure didn't look anything like when I was going to college, or what little I've seen of the large state schools here.
 
What is the significance?
Of differing heterosexual behaviors in cosmopolitan areas vs smaller more traditional cities/towns?

I don't know.

What I do know is that I see an awful lot of not very happy, seemingly marginally fulfilled young people in large western cities, and I also saw this in elite liberal arts colleges. I seem to have seen less of this in smaller/traditional places.

So it's why I'm asking. First, to see if anyone else sees a significant difference in the "standard" hetero relationship of the 60/70 and what is observed now, and if they see it/don't see it, is the difference location dependent.

There is no moral here, if that's what you're thinking. It's an observed (I think) anomaly. And of course I don't like seeing kids I know less happy than I was.

Nothing to be done about because, as another poster pointed out, it's *their* lives, not mine.
 
OK.

But let me ask: do heterosexual females sometimes find detectable but tasteful interest shown by acceptable males to be, well, interesting or flattering. You know, in a sort of deep basic way?

I think that for a long time I misjudged female response, thinking that it was like the common male heterosexual drive. This is mistaken, I now believe. It's a far different set of motivations/responses, having evolved due to differing social roles.
I think women are varied in their response. Some have a strong drive, relatively unencumbered by what may be considered “female complexities.” Some are every bit as primal as a male, and very satisfying that is. I speak from glorious personal experience.😁 I see this in younger women also.
 
I think women are varied in their response. Some have a strong drive, relatively unencumbered by what may be considered “female complexities.” Some are every bit as primal as a male, and very satisfying that is. I speak from glorious personal experience.😁
Do you think it's more cyclical than men? It looks that way to me, now.

I now suspect that this is maybe the main difference. Men *tend* to be never "off", always "on" and as a young male I assumed naively, without any thought, at all, that it was the same for young women.
 
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