Is the government shutdown a very bad thing? Who to blame?

The whole thing is beyond ridiculous. It's like watching little kids play a game, except with very dire consequences. Perhaps this country needs another depression, but this time will be different. No longer will people be looking to help each other through, but a good deal of them will be looking to get whatever they can from those who have anything.

It's frightening and there's no way one could possibly prepare for the many scenarios that could take place. Human nature at it's worst is what we'll see. I feel for the young who have to go through it, if it does happen.

What role China will play in this is another thing...are we holding our oil supplies to repay our loans?? Wouldn't surprise me at this point.
 

Anne said:
The whole thing is beyond ridiculous. It's like watching little kids play a game, except with very dire consequences. Perhaps this country needs another depression, but this time will be different. No longer will people be looking to help each other through, but a good deal of them will be looking to get whatever they can from those who have anything.

It's frightening and there's no way one could possibly prepare for the many scenarios that could take place. Human nature at it's worst is what we'll see. I feel for the young who have to go through it, if it does happen.

What role China will play in this is another thing...are we holding our oil supplies to repay our loans?? Wouldn't surprise me at this point.
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I love your optimism. I wish I shared it. People helping others through it? Who helped each other through this recession? Are we even through it? We've become a country of ask not what I can do for the country, but what the country can do for me. And we're now reaping what we asked for.
 
atwhatcost said:
I love your optimism. I wish I shared it. People helping others through it? Who helped each other through this recession? Are we even through it? We've become a country of ask not what I can do for the country, but what the country can do for me. And we're now reaping what we asked for.
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Optimism?? I wish. I'm referring to the Great Depression; I've heard many stories of how hard it was, but people did help each other. They also had faith, respect, and an understanding that they were not the only ones suffering. We won't see those attitudes if we go through that again - you are correct that there's a sense of entitlement now; and very little respect or compassion for others.

Seems to me that our elected officials are none other than puppets; and strive to rule, not govern.
 

Every so often a good thorough cleansing is just what the doctor ordered, especially when you become too used to a diet of fatty foods and empty calories.

That's what has to happen here - a nation-wide enema. Putting Band-Aids on your arms won't help, and the Syrup of Ipecac supply will run out long before everyone gets a swallow, but you can always rely upon the good ol' internal cleanse to set the system back in balance.

Whatever form that cleansing takes - political upheaval, citizen uprisings, total economic crash - I can only believe that it will get rid of the poisonous toxins that this country now contains, and the survivors - the mentally and physically strong - will start over, hopefully in the right direction this time.
 
I'll risk this, as and example of how it's viewed from here.

We have that rarest of creatures, a TV finance and world economics commentator with a wicked sense of humour.

He was discussing the ramifications to be expected from the US shutdown and how the local stockmarket was responding.
He pointed to the graph and said...[ paraphrased.]... "well, as you can see, not much. Everyone's sitting back waiting to see how long they'll hold out on the annual standoff this time. They've been solving it by raising the debt level since 1917 and go through this ritual every year, then raise it again and everyone breathes out. We expect it won't be any different this time. They won't worry about it again until about this time next year. I don't expect to see much movement in stocks until the eleventh hour when some investors may lose their nerve."

Meanwhile we're hoping he's right. Better for us, but long term, not so much for you.

We (I) got antsy over a couple of billion deficit. I've seen the examples of what trillions looks like.


On a lighter note:
Had a laugh at a short spoofy cooking show, Audrey's Kitchen, she prattled about a fine old Greek saying, "no man with food on the table is poor."

"Well, that's comforting" she said. "Financial advice from Greece."
 
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