Is This the Face of Hate?

Yes. At only 21 to be able to walk into a church and shoot multiple people simply because he didn't like their color. THAT is hate!!!!!!
 

My heart goes out to all the family who lost their loved ones due to this racist murderer. Yes, that is the face of hate.
 
OMG was it this bit of a Kid who shot all those people including the Pastor in the SC church ? Dirty little scumbag apparently sat in church at a Bible class for an hour before shooting everyone down ...I hope he gets what he deserves.

R.I.P to 9 good folks whose only apparent crime was to be in a place of worship.
 
There's not much to go on yet about the killer, however, he may be very mentally unbalanced/disturbed or has a psychiatric illness, which doesn't excuse what happened, but surely a mentally balanced person wouldn't do something like this. He looks somewhat unhinged in the picture to me, though.
 
POS Coward!

Apparently he has a criminal record as well. His name and display of several ex pro apartheid countries flags mean his family is a recent immigrant or second generation American??? POS no matter how you look at it.

Mass shooting is bad enough but to go into a church or holy ground with unarmed civilians there for worship is as close to the ultimate act of cowardice you can get.

Condolences to family/survivors and may the victims rest in peace.
 
Cookie said:
There's not much to go on yet about the killer, however, he may be very mentally unbalanced/disturbed or has a psychiatric illness, which doesn't excuse what happened, but surely a mentally balanced person wouldn't do something like this. He looks somewhat unhinged in the picture to me, though.
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Cookie, your post reminds me once again that I believe there is something very, very wrong with too many young white American males. These mass shootings seem epidemic these recent years,...or is it just more news coverage? I feel there is a huge mental health issue among this group that causes deep hatred. I wonder if there are any recent studies.
 
RadishRose said:
Cookie, your post reminds me once again that I believe there is something very, very wrong with too many young white American males. These mass shootings seem epidemic these recent years,...or is it just more news coverage? I feel there is a huge mental health issue among this group that causes deep hatred. I wonder if there are any recent studies.
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Is it drug related?..is it because they have more access to viewing violent films or footage online..?
 
This is indeed a very strange event, and a very sad one. I got the alert on my iPad right away, and was following the news reports and also the Facebook posts as the event was unfolding last night.
Some things seem odd to me.
For one thing, within a short time after the shootings, they were reporting that it was a 21 year old, grey sweatshirt/t-shirt/hoodie, blue jeans and Timberland boots.
Sure enough , when they arrested him, he is 21 years old and wearing Timberland boots. Who in the world was looking at the brand of his boots while they were being shot and killed ? ?

Another thing that is not much in the news so far, is that the woman who is the pastor at that church is also a senator for the state of South Carolina. this makes me wonder if maybe she was the actual target for some reason, and the others were shot just to make it look like a hate crime. She was one of the people killed by the shooter; so she definitely could have been targeted.

One thing that really distresses me is the amount of facebook posts that were crying for "war" (in those words) by black people against white people.
Just because there is a crazy person who apparently is racist; that does not mean that all white people hate all black people. We already seem to have that being pushed here in America, and it makes the division between people even worse than it would otherwise be.
 
WhatInThe said:
POS Coward!

Apparently he has a criminal record as well. His name and display of several ex pro apartheid countries flags mean his family is a recent immigrant or second generation American??? POS no matter how you look at it.

Mass shooting is bad enough but to go into a church or holy ground with unarmed civilians there for worship is as close to the ultimate act of cowardice you can get.

Condolences to family/survivors and may the victims rest in peace.
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Sorry, What does POS mean?
 
HFL...it could be that because he was part of the Bible study group for an hour before he started shooting that, that is how they were able to describe his apparel so well
 
Happyflowerlady said:
This is indeed a very strange event, and a very sad one. I got the alert on my iPad right away, and was following the news reports and also the Facebook posts as the event was unfolding last night.
Some things seem odd to me.
For one thing, within a short time after the shootings, they were reporting that it was a 21 year old, grey sweatshirt/t-shirt/hoodie, blue jeans and Timberland boots.
Sure enough , when they arrested him, he is 21 years old and wearing Timberland boots. Who in the world was looking at the brand of his boots while they were being shot and killed ? ?

Another thing that is not much in the news so far, is that the woman who is the pastor at that church is also a senator for the state of South Carolina. this makes me wonder if maybe she was the actual target for some reason, and the others were shot just to make it look like a hate crime. She was one of the people killed by the shooter; so she definitely could have been targeted.

One thing that really distresses me is the amount of facebook posts that were crying for "war" (in those words) by black people against white people.
Just because there is a crazy person who apparently is racist; that does not mean that all white people hate all black people. We already seem to have that being pushed here in America, and it makes the division between people even worse than it would otherwise be.
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The pastor and senator was a man, not a woman. One person in the church didn't get killed and the killer told her/him it was so she could tell people what happened and that he hated black people.

This crime was all about racism. It might be prosecuted as a federal hate crime.
 
Happyflowerlady said:
This is indeed a very strange event, and a very sad one. I got the alert on my iPad right away, and was following the news reports and also the Facebook posts as the event was unfolding last night.
Some things seem odd to me.
For one thing, within a short time after the shootings, they were reporting that it was a 21 year old, grey sweatshirt/t-shirt/hoodie, blue jeans and Timberland boots.
Sure enough , when they arrested him, he is 21 years old and wearing Timberland boots. Who in the world was looking at the brand of his boots while they were being shot and killed ? ?

Another thing that is not much in the news so far, is that the woman who is the pastor at that church is also a senator for the state of South Carolina. this makes me wonder if maybe she was the actual target for some reason, and the others were shot just to make it look like a hate crime. She was one of the people killed by the shooter; so she definitely could have been targeted.

One thing that really distresses me is the amount of facebook posts that were crying for "war" (in those words) by black people against white people.
Just because there is a crazy person who apparently is racist; that does not mean that all white people hate all black people. We already seem to have that being pushed here in America, and it makes the division between people even worse than it would otherwise be.
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What puzzles me more is the South African or pro apartheid focus of this shooter. He took the time to obtain or make out dated nation state flags for his jacket. He literally has a Dutch boy haircut being the Dutch instigated a lot of the apartheid territories centuries ago it makes you wonder.

Doesn't make this shooter any less of huge piece of crap. He belongs in the coward hall of fame.
 
Shooter was arrested in past for the possession cocaine, meth and LSD. In high school he was known to have done lots of pills including Xanax. So not only is he taking drugs that hype people up but drugs that affects moods and can cause illusions. Wonderful. But where did the apartheid crap come from. Not a good combination no matter how you try to sell it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sted-twice-year-drug-trespassing-charges.html

And given a gun by parent who didn't know or ignored possible signs of drug abuse??????

I see insanity defense coming unless he wants to become a political martyr.
 
Ameriscot said:
The pastor and senator was a man, not a woman. One person in the church didn't get killed and the killer told her/him it was so she could tell people what happened and that he hated black people.

This crime was all about racism. It might be prosecuted as a federal hate crime.
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Sorry for the mixup in gender of the pastor. I just saw the name, and "Clementa" seemed like a female name to me, and many places do have female pastors, as well as female senators. I saw pictures of him on the TV news, and realized i had made a mistake ; but by then , it was already posted.
The news showed people being taken away in ambulances , but I have not heard if there were other people that were shot but not killed. Maybe there were only a few people there that night, if he only left one person alive to tell about it ?
They showed the police with one person in custody last night that seemed to meet the description; but he obviously must not have been the right one, just wearing the same color outfit and in the wrong place at the wrong time.
 
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Happyflowerlady said:
Sorry for the mixup in gender of the pastor. I just saw the name, and it seemed like a female name to me, and many places do have female pastors, as well as female senators. I saw pictures of him on the TV news, and realized i had made a mistake ; but by then , it was already posted.
The news showed people being taken away in ambulances , but I have not heard if there were other people that were shot but not killed. Maybe there were only a few people there that night, if he only left one person alive to tell about it ?
They showed the police with one person in custody last night that seemed to meet the description; but he obviously must not have been the right one, just wearing the same color outfit and in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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I'd never heard the name before and wouldn't know if it was a man or a woman if I hadn't seen his photo on tv.

I don't think it was only one person left alive, but he told one he wasn't going to shoot him/her so they could convey his message. I also heard there was a 5 year old who played dead so was found alive.
 
Cookie said:
There's not much to go on yet about the killer, however, he may be very mentally unbalanced/disturbed or has a psychiatric illness, which doesn't excuse what happened, but surely a mentally balanced person wouldn't do something like this. He looks somewhat unhinged in the picture to me, though.
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Agreed Cookie.Who knows how he was brought up as well as all the other points that you mention?
 
Cookie said:
There's not much to go on yet about the killer, however, he may be very mentally unbalanced/disturbed or has a psychiatric illness, which doesn't excuse what happened, but surely a mentally balanced person wouldn't do something like this. He looks somewhat unhinged in the picture to me, though.
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His weapon is reported to be a birthday present from his father. It will be interesting to see what the family background is.

Just because there is a crazy person who apparently is racist; that does not mean that all white people hate all black people. We already seem to have that being pushed here in America, and it makes the division between people even worse than it would otherwise be.
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Reports indicate that South Carolina has numerous white supremacist groups, including KKK. I don't think this is just a case of one crazy person. More like a case of the straw that breaks the back of the camel. Outrage can be cumulative.
 

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