It’s a boy!

It seems on paper at least...Meghan has become a ''princess'...

Listed on Baby Archies' birth certificate.. she's proclaimed as a Princess of the United Kingdom


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Meghan, who gave her name as 'Rachel Meghan Her Royal Highness The Duchess of Sussex', listed her job as 'Princess of the United Kingdom' - the same as Kate has done previously - as her son's birth was registered by her husband the Duke of Sussex today.
Meghan's official title is the Duchess of Sussex, but when she married Harry, she technically became 'Her Royal Highness, Princess Harry of Wales' - which is why she is a 'princess' on the document.
But despite this, she will never be Princess Meghan as she married into the royal family and was not born into it. Under archane rules, she requires 'royal blood' and the Queen would have to reverse centuries of tradition to alter this.
Archie's birth certificate confirmed the place of birth as the Portland Hospital and dismissed speculation that Meghan, who married Harry a year ago on Sunday, had a home birth in the sanctuary of Frogmore Cottage - the Sussexes' home on the Windsor Estate.
And unlike most new parents who have 42 days to attend their local registry office, the deputy registrar of Westminster Council, Dexsha Mevada, made the approximately 24-mile trip to the Sussex's Windsor home.
Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor, the seventh in line to the throne and an eighth great-grandchild for the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh, arrived at 5.26am on May 6, weighing 7lb 3oz.
Until now, the duke and duchess have been trying to keep the birth location private and details of their medical staff a secret. But the certificate from the City of Westminster register office revealed some key details.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...icate-reveals-Meghan-gave-birth-Portland.html
 

Okay for all the rubbish and proper titles etc....My wife wants to see Archie, not his feet. Could you imagine how much you coud sell a good photo of Archie to the tabs.
 
Holly--all of that is confusing to me. Why was Diana a princess if she didn't have royal blood? Seems to me you're either a princess or you're not. :D
 

I found this online....


Who gets to be a "Prince (or Princess) of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" is governed largely by letters patent issued by King George V in 1917. This proclamation limited the titles of prince and princess and the style of royal highness to "the children of any Sovereign of these Realms and the children of the sons of any such Sovereign and the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales." This was modified last month by Queen Elizabeth II to extend to any children of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales because a first-born daughter born to Prince William (who would only be styled "Lady [Name]" under the 1917 letters patent) could one day become queen if the Succession to the Crown Bill 2012 is enacted by Parliament (which will happen).

Basically to be a British prince or princess, you'd have to:

  • be born* to the reigning king or queen, or

  • be born* to a British prince (not princess!) and be the grandchild of a British sovereign, or

  • be born* to the eldest son of the Prince of Wales (this allows some great-grandchildren of a sovereign to qualify), or

  • be proclaimed by letters patent otherwise (Prince Philip, who renounced his status as a Greek and Danish prince shortly before marriage, was proclaimed a British prince by Elizabeth II in 1957).
(*Your title can be upgraded after birth if your grandpa/grandma/mother later accedes to the throne.)

So we currently have

  • a Princess Alexandria (the daughter of Prince George, Duke of Kent and granddaughter of George V),
  • a Princess Anne (the daughter of Elizabeth II),
    • a Princess Beatrice (the elder daughter of Prince Andrew and granddaughter of Elizabeth II), and
    • a Princess Eugenie (the younger daughter of Prince Andrew and granddaughter of Elizabeth II).

    But we do not have
    • a Princess Zara (the daughter of Princess Anne, who as a woman cannot pass her titles to her children, and known before her marriage as Miss Zara Phillips as the daughter of Mark Philips) or
    • a Princess Helen (the daughter of Prince Edward, Duke of Kent, and merely the great-granddaughter of George V and styled Lady Helen Windsor as the daughter of a duke).
    The children of Prince Michael of Kent and Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester, are similarly styled lord and lady instead or prince and princess.
 
Gads .. I have enough problems with Miss, Mrs., Ms. and Ma'am ... :D​
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Ditto to that, Bonnie! I also have enough problems with the names of our (currently) 23 Democratic presidential candidates. ;)
 
Laurie said:
With the latest press release and photographs am I being overly pessimistic in wondering if he has landed a headline seeker like his mother?
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That was evident to me from the first; Meghan presents herself very much like my narcissistic (NPD) ex SIL. As the child of two narcissists--very different presentations but narcissists all the same--Harry says he has been in therapy in the past, but it takes a lot to overcome parents like his. We're working hard as an extended family to teach my niece that her mother is likely to negatively impact the type of person she falls in love with, and that her mother's influence can be overcome with personal growth and insight.

William was at the age that his mother's behavior embarrassed him: I have read that after her Panorama interview he kept his head tucked and would hardly look people in the eye at school. He chose a discrete partner from a stable family, and chose very well it seems to this point.
 
Laurie said:
With the latest press release and photographs am I being overly pessimistic in wondering if he has landed a headline seeker like his mother?
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I never saw Diana as a "headline seeker", and remember she was killed while being hounded/chased by photographers.

As far as Meghan, would you prefer she & Harry not allow any photographs? She's not exactly running into the street begging for attention.

AnnieA said:
That was evident to me from the first; Meghan presents herself very much like my narcissistic (NPD) ex SIL.
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How so?
 
applecruncher said:
How so?
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@applecruncher - skimming Meghan's now defunct blog. It was all superficial image ...all about her ..."look at my life that all of you wish you had" which was actually a minor character on a cable tv show, an influencer blog and any well known friends she could snare. Wonderful daddy was included in the spiel. And after the fallout with her family, it's proved to be fake. It smelled fake to me from the first. The smug "cat that ate the canary" look started there with the thinly veiled posts alluding to dating Harry just before it became public. I had never heard of her or her blog which isn't so surprising since I've never had cable tv subscription. But none of my tv binging younger friends and family had heard of her either, though she gave the impression she was famous on her blog. I only went to her blog once the news broke that she was dating Harry. First thoughts were ..."what the heck, Harry?"

Pretty much everything she's done since her wedding confirmed that as well as the army of 'former' friends and family who have dished on her. She's caused a lot of people who cared about her pain, but narcissists don't care. All they care about is the next narcissistic supply. Some people make a big deal about her being biracial, but it's her mom that's classy. I think it's what we call around here "white trash" dad that formed her character most.
 
AnnieA said:
@applecruncher - skimming Meghan's now defunct blog. It was all superficial image ...all about her ..."look at my life that all of you wish you had" which was actually a minor character on a cable tv show, an influencer blog and any well known friends she could snare. Wonderful daddy was included in the spiel. And after the fallout with her family, it's proved to be fake. It smelled fake to me from the first. The smug "cat that ate the canary" look started there with the thinly veiled posts alluding to dating Harry just before it became public. I had never heard of her or her blog which isn't so surprising since I've never had cable tv subscription. But none of my tv binging younger friends and family had heard of her either, though she gave the impression she was famous on her blog. I only went to her blog once the news broke that she was dating Harry. First thoughts were ..."what the heck, Harry?"

Pretty much everything she's done since her wedding confirmed that as well as the army of 'former' friends and family who have dished on her. She's caused a lot of people who cared about her pain, but narcissists don't care. All they care about is the next narcissistic supply. Some people make a big deal about her being biracial, but it's her mom that's classy. I think it's what we call around here "white trash" dad that formed her character most.
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Wow, you've really gotten worked up about Meghan. :whome:

"Army" of former friends? She has plenty of friends, so ..., we'll just say your definition of an army is different than mine.

Her relationship with her mother Doria is very close.
Her father, not so much and I can see why.
Some cousins on her father's side looking like Jerry Springer rejects showed up at the airport last year but weren't allowed to attend the wedding.
Her half-sister Samantha has been blathering on TV for quite some time, wrote a book which hasn't made it to the bestseller list, and frankly Samantha is a bottom-feeder, as are some of her other relatives.

But...again...this thread "It's a boy!" started out being about Baby Archie (vs grist for those who for whatever reason can't stand Meghan).
 
applecruncher said:
Wow, you've really gotten worked up about Meghan. :whome:...
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She does irritate me greatly; I've been a hobby royal watcher for years so can't avoid her since I like that hobby. She's a symbolic stand in for the evil ex narcissistic SIL who is so much like her that I wish I could type scathing things about!

...But...again...this thread "It's a boy!" started out being about Baby Archie...
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I'm very happy for baby Archie that he came into the world a healthy little boy! Daughters are generally much more psychologically wounded by narcissistic moms.
 
@ AnnieA

You've "quoted" me but modified what I said. Hope it's just an error.
I never said Meghan irritated me.

I never said:
She does irritate me greatly and I've been a hobby royal watcher for years so can't avoid her since I like that hobby. She's a symbolic stand in for the evil ex narcissistic SIL who is so much like her that I wish I could type scathing things about!
^^
Those are your words, not mine.
 
applecruncher said:
@ AnnieA

You've "quoted" me but modified what I said. Hope it's just an error.
I never said Meghan irritated me.

I never said:
She does irritate me greatly and I've been a hobby royal watcher for years so can't avoid her since I like that hobby. She's a symbolic stand in for the evil ex narcissistic SIL who is so much like her that I wish I could type scathing things about!
^^
Those are your words, not mine.
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The ellipses typed before and after the quoted parts indicate they're incomplete quotes from an original post. I didn't read in your post or respond in kind that you found her irritating. I said in confirmation to your first quote (the 'worked up' one) that you are correct, she does irritate me.
 
hollydolly said:
It seems on paper at least...Meghan has become a ''princess'...

Listed on Baby Archies' birth certificate.. she's proclaimed as a Princess of the United Kingdom


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Why, pray tell, has Meghan and Harry decided NOT to assign a royal title to their son, Archie, for the sake of "growing up normal", BUT YET Meghan is calling herself "Princess of the United Kingdom"...while seeming to quite enjoy "not being normal" ??

Don't they think when he grows up around all the royals that he too is going to want to be recognized as someone of royal importance just like his mother is enjoying now?
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