It seems to me we're living on the wrong side of a cautionary saying

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One of the sayings I like is "Those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it".

Unfortunately it seems like we're living it these days at least in some areas of United States and other areas of the world. I'm just surprised that the past we're talking about is so recent.

We know what happened in Wuhan, we know what happened in Italy and we know what happened in New York and yet now it's happening in many other places. We also had many warnings from the areas which were hit first yet they went unheeded by so many.

I find it somewhat disheartening.
 

CarolfromTX said:
And then there are the finger pointers and virtue signalers.
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It doesn't have anything to do with virtue, it's all about being able to learn from the experience of others even if those lessons are not what you want to believe. We have multiple examples of areas that have successfully limited the initial spread of the virus in their area. Many of them are already moving back towards normalcy yet there are many people who are unwilling to use those examples to get us on that path.
 
The masks don't have anything to do with virtue. However, people who are constantly chiding others about wearing a mask, are virtue sinaling -- in other words, trying to demonstrate just what a good person they are and at the same time shaming others who don't conform. I wear a mask, I just don't feel the need to constantly talk about it.
 
CarolfromTX said:
The masks don't have anything to do with virtue. However, people who are constantly chiding others about wearing a mask, are virtue sinaling -- in other words, trying to demonstrate just what a good person they are and at the same time shaming others who don't conform. I wear a mask, I just don't feel the need to constantly talk about it.
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Wearing a mask is only one aspect of lowering the number of infections. I was saying that many people in this country chose not to learn from the lessons learned in other countries or within New York. Now in there defense there were plenty of "experts" they listen to who chose either not share the lessons learned from experts they have access to or to contradict what they experts were saying because it didn't fit into their world view.

That brings up another saying, "There are none so blind as those who refuse to see."
 
CarolfromTX said:
The masks don't have anything to do with virtue. However, people who are constantly chiding others about wearing a mask, are virtue sinaling -- in other words, trying to demonstrate just what a good person they are and at the same time shaming others who don't conform. I wear a mask, I just don't feel the need to constantly talk about it.
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It is IMO all part of the 'my way or the highway crowd' ...... or at least a large part anyway.
 
rgp said:
It is IMO all part of the 'my way or the highway crowd' ...... or at least a large part anyway.
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How so? Certain behaviors (wearing masks, social distancing, quick effective testing, contact tracing, sheltering in place, etc...) have been shown to be very effective in limiting the spread of the virus and getting a country or region back into a state where easing restrictions does not drastically increase the the spread of the virus and allows the country or region to start having more economic recovery.

It's not a matter of my way, it's a matter of what's been shown to work. No one else has been able to show a different way that works. If they had they'd have been sharing and promoting that methodology backed by measurable results.

I would have been perfectly happy to have a group that disagrees isolate themselves from those who were following a method that works and then allowing random members of the group to be infected to see if their different way was more effective.
 
It's going to teach us a new way to live, maybe. Since I can't wear a mask due to a medical condition, and I've been out almost everyday throughout this whole ordeal, one would think I should be dead by now.

I think about this a lot. Maybe there's so much more to learn about this disease than we know? Maybe there is something to be said for herd immunity? That's all there used to be to treat pandemics before, yet the human race survived.
 
Just saw Fauci interviewed on TV. The vaccine they are testing sounds promising!
 

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