Is this a race to the bottom?Mockery of someone else's beliefs when they don't align with your [lack of] belief is not a good look.
Is this a race to the bottom?Mockery of someone else's beliefs when they don't align with your [lack of] belief is not a good look.
I didn't think you were in favor of prayer. Maybe I was mistaken.To have the wisdom to know the difference between the things I can and cannot control.
I can see the wisdom in the first verse and that alone is a source of comfort. Yes I'm cherry picking.I didn't think you were in favor of prayer. Maybe I was mistaken.
Either way, thank you for quoting a portion of the Serenity Prayer. The entire prayer is below.
God, grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change
the courage to change the things I can
and the wisdom to know the difference.
Living one day at a time,
enjoying one moment at a time.
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace.
Taking, as he did, the sinful world as it is,
not as I would have it.
Trusting that he will make all things right
if I surrender to His will;
that I may be reasonably happy in this life,
and supremely happy with Him forever in the next.
—Reinhold Niebuhr, 1892-1971
Do people still believe in the concept of intelligent design?A prayer sent to our intelligent designer and creator is helpful for the things we cannot control...no?
Maybe you can also find some comfort in the start of the second verse as well - this part:I can see the wisdom in the first verse and that alone is a source of comfort. Yes I'm cherry picking.
A prayer sent to our intelligent designer and creator is helpful for the things we cannot control...no?
Sometimes I wonder (this is my personal belief, so mock away at will) how elderly people with their remaining time on earth diminishing so rapidly can *not* believe in the concept.Do people still believe in the concept of intelligent design?![]()
If the intelligent designer and creator is God, and I believe He is, then yes of course.Do people still believe in the concept of intelligent design?![]()
I was thinking of Paula White who cheated with Benny Hinn and let her man preach that you should watch porn to spice up your marriage. She prays and lays hands on and then you get the imbecile 'doctor' pic and my normal christian mom listens to this nonsense and thinks he's sent by God.I can't find anywhere in the thread that anyone has said we should pray for war. Praying for "Thy will be done, Thy Kingdom come" yes. God has a plan to rid the world of sin. He's not a happy camper about all the sin.
Jackie it's up to those who agree with your school of thought to push back and push back hard.My only hope for an answer to this constant chaos and wars, constant lies and corruption and total madness will be in the voting booth...people are fed up and all the polls are looking good for this to happen.....hopefully the very real push to interfere with American citizens' right to vote (to hold on to power) will fail.
It's possible that you may have misunderstood the post you replied to. I agree 100% with what you wrote here.If my country was attacked and my livelihood, home, personal safety, etc… was threatened by the invading force, I would probably not have positive thoughts and prayers for their success.
I also believe that we should not be surprised that nations around the world are not piling on to help us justify our actions or that we should be surprised if Iran reaches out to countries that tend to support them and accept their way of life.
IMO we should learn to mind our own business and keep our hands to ourself, accept the fact that people around the world make choices that are not compatible with our own.
I’m not saying that we should be pushovers or that we do not have the right to defend ourselves from people that actually do us harm.
I’m not sure that any single country has the right to decide who can or can’t develop nuclear resources or which countries are suitable to manage those nuclear resources.
Are you talking about Ayatollah Khomeini and his son? I don't think either one of them care about the death and destruction, they view this as a religious crusade.The difference is that the previous ruler operated in a fear vacuum, while his successor can see the consequences of actions in the form of the rubble around him. I see some deterrence in that analogy.
``One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.''I suspect that for every Christian praying for military success there's another Muslim or Hindu praying for the U.S. to fail.
Perhaps “terrifying” was stronger word than required. Perhaps I should have said slightly abnormal. Still, as the discussion shifts into a more explicitly religious frame, I find myself wrestling with the paradox between free will and the idea that everything is already ordained. If our choices are truly our own, how does that coexist with a universe in which the outcome is already written, or does it conflict at all? And if events are, in some sense, predetermined, then what exactly are we praying for? Guidance? Strength? Alignment with a plan that’s already set in motion?Our @Lara terrifying?! No way.![]()
Exactly``One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.''
What you're describing (predestination) is a Calvinistic theology. Not every Christian denomination is rooted in that and it is not the core of all Christian tenets. It *is* often used to try to "disprove" Christianity, however.I find myself wrestling with the paradox between free will and the idea that everything is already ordained. If our choices are truly our own, how does that coexist with a universe in which the outcome is already written, or does it conflict at all? And if events are, in some sense, predetermined, then what exactly are we praying for? Guidance? Strength? Alignment with a plan that’s already set in motion?
I don't think there is a solution at this point. Iran had agreed to limit their nuclear ambitions under the JCPOA in 2015, but the U.S. pulled out of the agreement in 2018. The U.S. has proven over and over that it does not negotiate in good faith, so what incentive does Iran have to go back to the negotiating table?It would be delightful to see someone post a plan how they would intervene, bring peace/truce for the future acceptable to all,
end this before it escalates, leave out names or innuendos on any current officials and just give your answer.
It's so easy to find fault in others and their choices but is it so easy to find a solution? Go from right now, this day and time
and tell what you would do. Don't back step on what has happened, take it from here. We're listening.
Iran initially allowed passage only to certain ships, particularly those linked to Iran and its allies. On April 17th, Iran announced that the strait is "completely open" for all commercial vessels during a ceasefire. When Iran's Foreign Minister confirmed that the straight was open for all commercial vessels via a coordinated route, this was supported by statements from the U.S. president.Back to the Iran debacle... During the agreed upon two week ceasefire, Iran had opened the strait and was allowing passage until the U.S. imposed a naval blockade on Iran's ports, which is considered an act of war. The U.S. also attacked and seized an Iranian cargo ship.
In other words, Iran was acting in good faith while the U.S. violated the spirit of the truce.
Also, Iran is negotiating with roughly 70 career diplomats and technical experts who have worked on nuclear issues for decades. The U.S. "expertise" on the other hand is comprised of two real estate moguls and a venture capitalist.