It's in mens DNA

cdestroyer said:
oh so yalls think men have a choice? better rethink that!!
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Of course men have a choice.
Do you think we are nothing more than driftwood , bobbing about in the stream and waiting for HER to make the 1st move ?

Recall the days when you were single and you went to a dancing club/bar. Did you just sit there and wait for a girl to approach YOU ? No, of course not. You looked about and when you spotted a girl that interested you, you asked HER to dance.
Does that mean you were always successful ? No, of course not. Sometimes you got turned down. BUT, you took the initiative. Thus your choice was made known
 

senior chef said:
Yes, indeed. No question about it.
However, most women do not make any serious moves on her choice of mate. She may prefer guy X , Y, or Z but if he does not approach her, then she is left with only those men who are interested AND who try to get her.
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I have to respectfully disagree with the highlighted section of the post. I stand 6'4" and when I would walk through the airport dressed in uniform, especially in the evenings for whatever reason, over the years, I had several women approach me while in the airport. Keep in mind, I flew for 33 years, so I did see a lot of women in that timespan.

My best and favorite lady was Estelle Bennett of the Ronettes. She walked up to me and asked me if the wings on my coat were real gold. One thing led to another and the next thing I knew we were having coffee at a donut shop in the terminal named The Donut Hole. She will never be forgotten. So lively, interesting and pretty, don't you think? BTW, she has since become deceased.

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oldman said:
I have to respectfully disagree with the highlighted section of the post. I stand 6'4" and when I would walk through the airport dressed in uniform, especially in the evenings for whatever reason, over the years, I had several women approach me while in the airport. Keep in mind, I flew for 33 years, so I did see a lot of women in that timespan.

My best and favorite lady was Estelle Bennett of the Ronettes. She walked up to me and asked me if the wings on my coat were real gold. One thing led to another and the next thing I knew we were having coffee at a donut shop in the terminal named The Donut Hole. She will never be forgotten. So lively, interesting and pretty, don't you think? BTW, she has since become deceased.

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I still contend that such women are rare. IMO the overwhelming percentage of women don't make the 1st move.
 
Alligatorob said:
I don't know, I have noticed a lot of women have made the first move with me... mostly away.
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You are one lucky fellow.
It has happened to me , but rarely.

I think it also has a lot to do with how desirable any particular man is to women.
A guy who owns a house is more desirable than one who does not.
A guy who is rich, is more desirable that one who is not.
A guy who is very handsome is more desirable than one who is not.
The list is almost endless.

In any event, we have gotten waaay off track from the original post. Read post #1
 
Okay bossy-pants.

I've seen that test and I don't know that it works for everyone. Gweneth Paltrow and a lot of young stars are pretty much straight up and down. Back in the day I was 34-22-34 which fits the math, but the men always said it was my eyes that attracted them. Hmmm

@oldman! Wow! I read a book by Ronnie Spector, those girls were so, super cool.

squatting dog said:
My wife chose me... still not certain why. Did she really want the DNA of a recluse, demon saturated, ex soldier full of excess baggage?
49 years later and still no closer to an answer. Just glad she chose me. :)
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Well you were healthy and fit and had proven yourself to be brave and protective. Those are qualities females have looked for in men since we were cavewomen.
 
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Della said:
I've seen that test and I don't know that it works for everyone. Gweneth Paltrow and a lot of young stars are pretty much straight up and down. Back in the day I was 34-22-34 which fits the math, but the men always said it was my eyes that attracted them. Hmmm
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There are exceptions to everything. For every man who likes/desires an extreme plus size woman, there are a hundred who go for the body type you were back in the day.
 
oldman said:
My best and favorite lady was Estelle Bennett of the Ronettes. She walked up to me and asked me if the wings on my coat were real gold. One thing led to another and the next thing I knew we were having coffee at a donut shop in the terminal named The Donut Hole. She will never be forgotten. So lively, interesting and pretty, don't you think? BTW, she has since become deceased.

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The Ronettes were one of my favorites of the '60s; all such beautiful ladies as well. đź’“
 
senior chef said:
A few months back, while waiting in the Dr's office, I read an interesting article on men's DNA and their choice of mate.
The article was written by an anthropologist who had traveled the world and "tested" men from a wide range of cultures, from the big cities to small villages to jungle tribes.

The men were shown a series of female silhouettes: full body, but no hint of skin color, hair or eye color. Not even bust size, or anything except the actual body shape.

The men were asked to point to the shape that they felt were the most attractive as a potential mate.
The silhouettes ranged from nearly 'stick' figures to heavy 'plus' sizes.
Not surprisingly, neither the stick figures nor the 'plus' sizes faired well.
So, what did ?

The shape most selected was that of a woman with a waist aprox 70 % of the hip size.
Why that particular shape ? It seems that it is indicative of youth and most likely to produce a healthy child.
The anthropologist went on to say that men are not consciously aware of this but that it is written in his DNA.

Below is an example, but not precisely accurate to the ones I saw in that article.
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I notice she is wearing ridiculous high heels. Looks like some magazine photos or Hollywood nonsense. I was married twice but no wife of mine looked like this and I'm glad. My wives had brains, talent and knew how to dress well. That's what counts for a long term relationship. Guess I was very lucky!
 
cdestroyer said:
senior chef: and I suppose every girl you asked for a dance said yes? If so you must have some magnetic personality cause as I recall many a time I asked for a dance and was turned down thusly the girls still had the option to choose!
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Oh dear. Yet another one who likes to cause trouble.

I never said or implied any such thing. I didn't keep track, but I had my share of turn downs.

Once again I ask that we please stay on the subject of this thread. see post #1
 
Packerjohn said:
I notice she is wearing ridiculous high heels. Looks like some magazine photos or Hollywood nonsense. I was married twice but no wife of mine looked like this and I'm glad. My wives had brains, talent and knew how to dress well. That's what counts for a long term relationship. Guess I was very lucky!
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If you re-read my 1st post, you will clearly see that said the silhouette was NOT exactly what the silhouettes in the "test" were like. If I could have found the perfect example, I would have used it.
 
oldman said:
My best and favorite lady was Estelle Bennett of the Ronettes. She walked up to me and asked me if the wings on my coat were real gold. One thing led to another and the next thing I knew we were having coffee at a donut shop in the terminal named The Donut Hole. She will never be forgotten. So lively, interesting and pretty, don't you think? BTW, she has since become deceased.
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...an excerpt from Estelle Bennett's Wikipedia page:
Personal life and death
Bennett died of colon cancer, aged 67. Her body was discovered on February 11, 2009. A week after her death, it was revealed that she had suffered from schizophrenia in the years after the Ronettes' breakup and that she had subsequently been homeless in New York. wikipedia.org
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Just Sad.
 
Nathan said:
Here's the deal: gay men are "safe", meaning no pressure sexually.

Some women like the challenge of bedding a gay man, "converting" him to hetero, which would be a big feather in her bonnet.

Thing is- guys don't switch teams, if their straight they're straight, if they're gay they stay gay.

In Seinfeld Elaine tried to convert a guy, didn't really work:
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My best guy friend of over 25 years is bisexual but much more into guys. He had occasional flings with women and was at the the time we became friends. I was pretty sure he was gay,, though, so just came right out and asked him so that he wouldn't thing I was pursuing him romantically ...explained that's why I asked such a personal question. I had just moved into town, we worked together and had great conversations at lunch with a lot of laughs. Just didn't see another way to take the friendship further than work other than asking. He laughed at my convoluted explanation for the question and and his reply was "let's go to dinner tonight." Since then we've vacationed together, still talk for hours on the phone and I love spending time with him and his partner. The only downside to our friendship has been a couple of my jealous boyfriends ...they didn't last long.
 
senior chef said:
A few months back, while waiting in the Dr's office, I read an interesting article on men's DNA and their choice of mate.
The article was written by an anthropologist who had traveled the world and "tested" men from a wide range of cultures, from the big cities to small villages to jungle tribes.

The men were shown a series of female silhouettes: full body, but no hint of skin color, hair or eye color. Not even bust size, or anything except the actual body shape.

The men were asked to point to the shape that they felt were the most attractive as a potential mate.
The silhouettes ranged from nearly 'stick' figures to heavy 'plus' sizes.
Not surprisingly, neither the stick figures nor the 'plus' sizes faired well.
So, what did ?

The shape most selected was that of a woman with a waist aprox 70 % of the hip size.
Why that particular shape ? It seems that it is indicative of youth and most likely to produce a healthy child.
The anthropologist went on to say that men are not consciously aware of this but that it is written in his DNA.

Below is an example, but not precisely accurate to the ones I saw in that article.
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A good waist to hip ratio is a great indicator of health overall.
 
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