Kids today.....

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On my first walk of the day I pass secondary school kids (11-18) walking to catch the school bus. Many of the teenagers are drowned in perfume/aftershave and one nearly suffocates from the choking fumes. Goodness knows what the classrooms smell like!:D
 
Based on my observations, kids today seem to be ok with a move toward world-wide Socialism. I asked my 19 year old granddaughter, Amanda, if this is actually the case, and she said yes, she thinks so, and asked me, why?...what's wrong with that? I asked her if these young people might be mistakenly equating Socialism with something akin to Facebooking, or openly blogging. At first, she didn't think I was serious, but, after the laughter died down, she told me that most young people - at least the ones she associates with - are aware that Socialism is a form of government.

I said, "Do they know that history shows us that Socialism doesn't work?"

She said, "Do you know that it could?"

After I pointed out that power in the hands of a few ALWAYS inevitably leads to greed and misuse, and the shackling of entire societies, her view wasn't altered and the conversation became quite circular (as it often does with Amanda); "Did you know that 'No, not ALWAYS'?"

Apparently, kids today have too much faith in a few.
 
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Bluecheese50 said:
On my first walk of the day I pass secondary school kids (11-18) walking to catch the school bus. Many of the teenagers are drowned in perfume/aftershave and one nearly suffocates from the choking fumes. Goodness knows what the classrooms smell like!:D
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Try working in a supermarket and being choked by fumes of perfumes and this is from female customers in their............sixties​
 
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Hmmm. As a Canadian, I draw a sharp line between socialism and communism. I live in a country with affordable healthcare, where most people have enough to eat, and decent housing. Canadian socialism is viewed as power in the hands of the
people, instead of the one percent. Our new prime minister is actually a centrist, a liberal,but by most American standards, he would be viewed as left leaning.
 
Philly, now I am going to throw up. I hate pics like that. Hate, hate them!!! No one has the right to beat helpless llittle children. No one has the right to rule by terror. Only an incompetent person must resort to physical violence to teach a child.my children

were never hit. I believe in discipline, in consequences. I believe in teaching right and wrong, respect for oneself and others. I don't beat animals either. My kids state they will not spank their kids when they have them, even though their wives were spanked.
 
Shalimar said:
Hmmm. As a Canadian, I draw a sharp line between socialism and communism. I live in a country with affordable healthcare, where most people have enough to eat, and decent housing. Canadian socialism is viewed as power in the hands of the
people, instead of the one percent. Our new prime minister is actually a centrist, a liberal,but by most American standards, he would be viewed as left leaning.
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I understand that all communists are socialists, but not all socialists are communists. And there are varieties of socialism. Below are only two of many definitions:

An economic system in which the production and distribution of goods are controlled substantially by the government rather than by private enterprise, and in which cooperation rather than competition guides economic activity.

An economic theory or system in which the means of production, distribution, and exchange are owned by the community collectively, usually through the state. It is characterized by production for use rather than profit, by equality of individual wealth, by the absence of competitive economic activity, and, usually, by government determination of investment, prices, and production levels.

Amanda believes it is an incorruptible system of government. Socialism is no less corruptible than true capitalism. In my opinion, it is more easily corrupted. (And, clearly, it is difficult to pin down a definitive definition.) I didn't actually argue with her. I never do. After hearing a few discussions while I waited for her at her school campus, I was merely interested to know what she and other young people thought about it.
 
Spanking is not beating, nor is it terror. It is simply spanking.

I spank my cats, and they love it.

I spanked my older son once when he got into trouble, and he never got into that trouble again.

And we always say "Oh, when I have kids I'll do this and that" - yeah ...
 
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Children who,have not been spanked rarely spank their own. Walloping a kid for wrongdoing, is not the same as giving a cat love swats. Spanking is becoming passé. Mental health professionals frown on it. I was terrified when big people spanked me. I

still would be if they tried--though I would put up a hell of a fight. I was one of those kids who swore I would not endorse corporal punishment, my kids, now in their thirties, feel the same way. By all means disagree with me Philly, but please don't

dismiss my comments re my kid's beliefs.
 
Have you ever considered that, like me, you were blessed with well-behaved children? Children that didn't NEED spanking?

And again - spanking isn't walloping.

Some kids are real terrors, and in spite of all the psychobabble and P.C. ways of the world these days nothing short of a show of force in the form of a spanking will change their course. IF you catch it early enough - if not, then spanking is just a useless punishment.

Sorry - it's just my viewpoint.
 
"Children who,have not been spanked rarely spank their own."

The time interval between childhood spankings, and adulthood spanking by those children is quite long. How can we reconcile that as accurate?

The distinction between "spanking" and "Abuse" needs to be addressed. Will you do that, please, given your background and understanding? imp
 
Spanking is abhorrent to me, and I see it as training by aversion, like giving a lab rat an electric shock each time they do something you don't want them to do. Sooner or later the little lab rat will choose to starve to death rather than undergo a shock to get some cheese.

Wouldn't it be more intelligent to approach the teaching of a child in a more positive way, i.e. reward and encourage good behavior and try to communicate and explain, believe me, kids from a very young age understand. Somehow I think that if one resorts to spanking, they are doing it the 'lazy' way because they don't want to take the time and put out the energy to teach and guide the child.

Also want to add that if one believes in spanking (punishment) as the best way of teaching good behavior, then one believes a bit too much in regard for the power of authority -- i.e. a system whereby we are ruled by force (totalitarianism, despotism? tyranny?) such as shoot first and ask questions later. I know this sounds a bit extreme, but maybe it would be a good idea to see it from the kid's point of view.
 
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"Children who,have not been spanked rarely spank their own."

The time interval between childhood spankings, and adulthood spanking by those children is quite long. How can we reconcile that as accurate?
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As usual with psychological research it's mainly conjecture or misinterpreted data.

cookie said:
Wouldn't it be more intelligent to approach the teaching of a child in a more positive way, i.e. reward and encourage good behavior and try to communicate and explain, believe me, kids from a very young age understand. Somehow I think that if one resorts to spanking, they are doing it the 'lazy' way because they don't want to take the time and put out the energy to teach and guide the child.
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Cookie, once again have you ever encountered a real stubborn child? I don't mean the usual stubbornness of kids - I mean one that just does not listen, that attacks or ignores you when you try to reason with them, one that goes around drowning cats and setting fire to dogs?

It isn't always laziness. Yes, it can be frustration or even anger, but if you're going to spank you shouldn't do it in that state of mind.

If you catch them at a VERY young age, yes, you can often mold them into proper young adults. But if you allow them their way until an older age and THEN decide to set them right? There's a point, as many parents can tell you, where communication, explanation and all the other touchy-feely techniques just do not work. What do you do then? Give them Ritalin? Send them to years of therapy? THAT is the real lazy way ...
 

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