Lori Vallow Trial

TabbyAnn

TabbyAnn

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The Lori Vallow Daybell trial is going on right now and Court TV is broadcasting daily updates. To the best I can make out, it involves the following:

Lori’s brother killed her husband and her lover killed his wife.
Lori and her lover got married 17 days after he killed his wife.
They were frolicking on the beach in Hawaii while Lori’s children were missing.
Police found Lori’s 2 children buried in her lover’s back yard.
Her brother died of an embolism while sitting on the toilet.
Now Lori and her lover are on trial for murder.
They were all members of a Mormon cult and said they were favored by God.
 

TabbyAnn said:
The Lori Vallow Daybell trial is going on right now and Court TV is broadcasting daily updates. To the best I can make out, it involves the following:

Lori’s brother killed her husband and her lover killed his wife.
Lori and her lover got married 17 days after he killed his wife.
They were frolicking on the beach in Hawaii while Lori’s children were missing.
Police found Lori’s 2 children buried in her lover’s back yard.
Her brother died of an embolism while sitting on the toilet.
Now Lori and her lover are on trial for murder.
They were all members of a Mormon cult and said they were favored by God.
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I hadn't been following this so thanks for the summary. I'll take a peek. Then you know, I'll be all in!
 
I haven't been watching the trial, but I did see a news clip of her remaining son speaking with her over the phone while she was in jail and admonishing her for "killing his siblings". He's actually testifying for the prosecution. Imagine being the only one in the family remaining with a mother who may be convicted of murder. Poor kid.
 
seadoug said:
I haven't been watching the trial, but I did see a news clip of her remaining son speaking with her over the phone while she was in jail and admonishing her for "killing his siblings". He's actually testifying for the prosecution. Imagine being the only one in the family remaining with a mother who may be convicted of murder. Poor kid.
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Yes, I listened to the audio for some time today. He was VERY upset with her!
 
It's always interesting...to know the 'back story'..
How was she raised..
Why so many marriages?
Parents?
 
Dateline did a two hour story about her even before they were arrested.

It's an interesting tale right from the day Lori and Chat met. Lori had already set herself up with her fundamentalist Mormon group as very spiritual and able to tell bad people (zombies) from good people. Meanwhile Chad Daybell was in another state self-publishing little books about the end times.

So Lori went to one of his book signing things and as she walked up, looking hot, Chad said he knew instantly that she had been his wife in another life and God intended the two of them to rule as King and Queen when the end comes. According to Chad that was due in a matter of months. Chad's not very good looking so I guess he needs a really good line to catch the girls.

It was love at first sight for the two narcissists, who always knew themselves to be destined for greatness.

Of course there were problems. They were both married with children, but with the help of Lori's brother who had always been a sort of slave/hitman for her, they started eliminating the problems.
 
I've been semi watching it occasionally, on Court TV.. not as interesting for a viewer as other major trials because we have to get all the testimony second-hand given that Lori Daybell got both of her wishes granted.. one not to allow Cameras into the court.. and 2, that the Death Penalty is off the table..
 
hollydolly said:
I've been semi watching it occasionally, on Court TV.. not as interesting for a viewer as other major trials because we have to get all the testimony second-hand given that Lori Daybell got both of her wishes granted.. one not to allow Cameras into the court.. and 2, that the Death Penalty is off the table..
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Two kids dead , and [so far] pretty damming evidence that she was at least involved .... I mean they were her kids , and yet she gets her wishes in the legal system.

And we wonder why crime is at the level it is , and on the rise.
 
Alligatorob said:
Hope she and her boyfriend get what they deserve, and based on what I've heard it needs to be sever and permanent punishment.

Makes the story a better headliner, but probably has little to do with their crimes...
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In this case I think it did matter. They both met through their Mormon background and their beliefs that the end times were coming soon.

Lori got away with a whole lot of questionable behavior for a very long time because her social group looked at her as a spiritual leader. If she proclaimed someone as being "dark," then the whole group would become suspicious of that person. Relationships ended because of Lori's declarations.

Both Lori and Chad would quote "scripture" to justify everything they did. I believe it's how they could talk themselves into comitting their crimes. They honestly believed that everything they wanted to do, like killing Chad's wife, was "God's Will."
 
Della said:
In this case I think it did matter. They both met through their Mormon background and their beliefs that the end times were coming soon.
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Don't know their specific backstory but I do know a bit about the Mormons. I am not one, but I live in a community that is 90+% Mormon. So far as I know there is no teaching or beliefs in the mainstream Mormon church that in anyway justifies this kind of thing.

The perpetrators were homicidal nutballs, justifying themselves based on their church affiliations. The same people would have found a way to support this no matter their religion, atheist, Catholic, Buddhist, whatever.
 
Alligatorob said:
So far as I know there is no teaching or beliefs in the mainstream Mormon church that in anyway justifies this kind of
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There's the catch.....not in the MAINSTREAM Mormon church, but when you're dealing with the fundamentalist loonies, who broke with the mainstream church long ago, you're looking at a different set of rules which they make up as they go along.
 
jujube said:
when you're dealing with the fundamentalist loonies, who broke with the mainstream church long ago, you're looking at a different set of rules which they make up as they go along
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Absolutely, and the same could be said for most religions and their crazies.

I don't blame Christianity for Timothy McVeigh or David Koresh, Catholicism for Mussolini, Islam for Bin Laden, Shinto or Buddhism for the Japanese WWII atrocities and so on.
 
I wasn't "blaming" the Mormon church or even their own little fundamentalist cult. I just said it had something to do with their story after you said it had nothing to do with it.

It is a fact that they met after he wrote a book about his religious beliefs, which she shared, and she went to his book signing because of having read it. Chad Daybell was a Mormon missionary when he was younger. They would never have met without that shared belief.

Later Lori pointed to a specific passage in Section 98 of the Doctrine and Covenants, which is part of Mormon scripture,
that she used to tell herself what she was doing was okay.

Tim McVeigh didn't point to any passages in the Bible to justify what he did, but he was inspired by what the ATF did to David Koresh and his followers at Waco.

The Christian Bible has plenty of stories of violence that someone could use if they wanted to take a sentence out of context which is what Lori did with the Mormon scripture.

Testimony at the Daybells trials will probably bring out witnesses for the prosecution who say that Lori told them she would have been justified killing her first husband while they were studying a scripture saying that if someone "comes at you," three times you can kill them. She also said in a video that she would go through the scriptures (Mormon ) looking for justification for violence.

These witnesses wont be brought in as any sort of proof against the Mormon church, but proof that Lori Daybell murdered people and justified it to herself through random passages.

Unless you want to call the prosecuting attorneys bigots too.
 
A religion is defined by its documented doctrine. The Mormon documented doctrine from its inception was illegal under federal law regarding its practice of polygamy and underage marriage. It wasn’t until the U.S. government planned to disincorporate the LDS church and seize its property and assets that the President of the Mormon Temple banned the practice of polygamy from members of the Temple. Some groups of Mormons still believe in the old doctrine, and some like Lori and Chad Daybell’s group have come up with new unlawful practices. They are free under federal law to believe whatever they want - they just can’t practice what is against the law without legal consequences.
 
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Alligatorob said:
Lori found guilty.

Lori Vallow: US doomsday cult mum guilty of murdering children, rival
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65567072
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Pure evil hag.
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