Medical Marijuana and Other Questions About Pot

Compared to the drawbacks of Tramadol, I would welcome the use of the balm no matter how many times I had to apply it.

Along with a long list of side effects, Tramadol has a high risk of dependence and addiction, and quitting it brings on some severe withdrawal symptoms.

As has been said, balms are usually short-term pain relief compounds. I don't quite understand why applying it several times a day would be a bother.

Taking only one 50mg Tramadol every other day isn’t going to get me addicted or anything. My VA doctor wouldn’t prescribe it if it would. But, she may not give me any more refills after this month, so need to find some other kind of relief. Don’t want to take ibuprofen on a daily basis either, but.

Won’t be able to afford the balm the rest of my life.
The Turmeric 500mg is good stuff also.
 

Hi Seabreeze,

The main reason we went with the 500mg balm first was price. The 1000mg container is $15 more than the 500mg, when you're only talking a 1oz container $50 is pretty pricey. We figured we'd try the 500mg first to see if it works at all, then if we needed to go up in strength we would. Both my wife and I are experiencing a high level of pain relief from the 500mg for both muscle and joint pain, so we figured we'd stick with that for now. We both average about 4 to 6 hours pain relief from one application. It doesn't take a lot of balm to treat an area, just a small dollop on your finger tip to rub in. We are using the "calming purple" balm, it has a pleasant (not overpowering) smell and isn't oily which are both pluses. There is no menthol smell or warming affect, which we like. I can't say anything about the lavender scent because I haven't purchased it. We are finding that a 1oz container will last us about 3 to 4 weeks if we use it sparingly, around 2 weeks if we use it a lot. My wife uses it on her lower back in the am and the pm daily. It gives her a lot of relief and helps her sleep better at night. I've used it to help with my arthritis joint pain with success as well.

Hope this helps, good luck!

Thanks Jim, I ordered the 1,000 mg strength this weekend and it arrived today. My back strain is pretty much gone, just slight pain, so I didn't want to waste the balm on my back until I really need it for a more painful time. I did use a tiny amount at the base area of my spine where I had been having pain, and I have to say I felt an improvement, not completely gone but much better. Going to hold off using any more until I really need it.

In the meantime, my husband has some issues now and then with his leg muscles, etc. He will use it the next time he needs to relieve some pain and I'll report here on our results. I put it on my back 6 hours ago, and it still seems to be effective.

I've used all the OTC balms/rubs in the past, including Toprecin, and none of them really gave results. For my Plantar Fasciitis a long time ago, magnesium oil was very effective in relieving the ligament tightness and pain. I do take Turmeric and pepper almost daily as a preventative for inflammation along with other benefits. I always prefer natural remedies to any prescription drugs, so far it's been working for me, less side effects and kinder to your body.
 
Thanks Jim, I ordered the 1,000 mg strength this weekend and it arrived today. My back strain is pretty much gone, just slight pain, so I didn't want to waste the balm on my back until I really need it for a more painful time. I did use a tiny amount at the base area of my spine where I had been having pain, and I have to say I felt an improvement, not completely gone but much better. Going to hold off using any more until I really need it.

In the meantime, my husband has some issues now and then with his leg muscles, etc. He will use it the next time he needs to relieve some pain and I'll report here on our results. I put it on my back 6 hours ago, and it still seems to be effective.

I've used all the OTC balms/rubs in the past, including Toprecin, and none of them really gave results. For my Plantar Fasciitis a long time ago, magnesium oil was very effective in relieving the ligament tightness and pain. I do take Turmeric and pepper almost daily as a preventative for inflammation along with other benefits. I always prefer natural remedies to any prescription drugs, so far it's been working for me, less side effects and kinder to your body.

You're welcome Seabreeze. Glad to hear you've had some success with the balm, look forward to reading future reviews. I tweaked my plantar fasciitis in my right foot last week and have been using the balm along with ice and have seen a big decrease in the pain. Out of all the injuries I've experienced in my life, the plantars fasciitis is probably the most nagging and aggravating one of them all, about twice a year it comes back to remind me it's still there.
 

Why do people make instant judgments towards people who use cannabis?
Is there ‘still’ the misguided belief that it is the gateway to all other drugs and if you are using cannabis, then you must be using other drugs also ; therefore you cannot possibly be a productive person to society?


Why is it STILL so stigmatized and will this ever change?


There have been many times in my life that I have stopped using for this very reason. People’s judgments can be very harsh and cruel once they discover you are a cannabis user yet if I were to have taken the doctors advice, I’m not sure if I’d be alive and functioning today. Some of the prescriptions I’ve been given have rendered me useless both physically and mentally where I haven’t been able to function whatsoever yet these drugs are, not only viewed as safe and effective but socially acceptable. Are we really all conditioned to believe this BS?


I made my post stating I’m a cannabis user because I’m proud that I got off the man made pharmaceuticals drugs that were destroying my mind and body.
Aren’t we past needing to hide this information?


Does stating that one uses cannabis instantly make them a ‘bad’ person?


What are your thoughts?
 
The old Harry Anslinger quote from nearly a century ago comes to mind:

“There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are *****es, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with *****es, entertainers and any others.”

Unfortunately this quote resonated with the xenophobes of the time and carried on for many decades.

The term "marijuana" has come to be associated with the idea that cannabis is a dangerous and addictive intoxicant, not a healing plant. The actions of the DEA in making it a Schedule I drug (with no medicinal value!) have only strengthened that perception, and the value of arresting and incarcerating users is a multi-billion dollar industry with connections in high places.

Does it make one a bad person? Definitely not. I'm a cannabis supporter and user and am not generally considered a "bad" person.

But in the eyes of the Federal government and the old-timers with a glass of whiskey in their hand and a cigar in their mouth? I'm a felon.

I think the perception is changing ... slowly.
 
The old Harry Anslinger quote from nearly a century ago comes to mind:



Unfortunately this quote resonated with the xenophobes of the time and carried on for many decades.

The term "marijuana" has come to be associated with the idea that cannabis is a dangerous and addictive intoxicant, not a healing plant. The actions of the DEA in making it a Schedule I drug (with no medicinal value!) have only strengthened that perception, and the value of arresting and incarcerating users is a multi-billion dollar industry with connections in high places.

Does it make one a bad person? Definitely not. I'm a cannabis supporter and user and am not generally considered a "bad" person.

But in the eyes of the Federal government and the old-timers with a glass of whiskey in their hand and a cigar in their mouth? I'm a felon.

I think the perception is changing ... slowly.

Alcohol has done much more harm to people and families than pot ever will. Hypocrites are everywhere.

The perception is changing, with every generation that comes up people become more lenient and open to new things.
 
SifuPhil; said:
But in the eyes of the old-timers with a glass of whiskey in their hand and a cigar in their mouth I'm a felon.



Whoa big fella I sorta resemble that remark ! :)

All joking aside, I tried MJ a few times in Vietnam and determined that it just wasn't my cup of tea but I have no ill feelings whatsoever against those that use it recreationally and certainly not for those that use it for medical purposes......to each his own.

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Alcohol has done much more harm to people and families than pot ever will. Hypocrites are everywhere.

The perception is changing, with every generation that comes up people become more lenient and open to new things.

Not in all areas of the U.S.. Many things that go on in big cities, definitely don't go on in small farming and ranching communities. That is why farmers and ranchers will say "that's why I have nothing to do with those big cities".
 
QUOTE=SifuPhil; But in the eyes of the old-timers with a glass of whiskey in their hand and a cigar in their mouth I'm a felon.



Whoa big fella I sorta resemble that remark ! :)

All joking aside, I tried MJ a few times in Vietnam and determined that it just wasn't my cup of tea but I have no ill feelings whatsoever against those that use it recreationally and certainly not for those that use it for medical purposes......to each his own.

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You wouldn't think this way if someone rear-ended your car and it was found that they had been smoking "dobies", a pipe or bong.
 
Why do people make instant judgments towards people who use cannabis?
Is there ‘still’ the misguided belief that it is the gateway to all other drugs and if you are using cannabis, then you must be using other drugs also ; therefore you cannot possibly be a productive person to society?


Why is it STILL so stigmatized and will this ever change?


There have been many times in my life that I have stopped using for this very reason. People’s judgments can be very harsh and cruel once they discover you are a cannabis user yet if I were to have taken the doctors advice, I’m not sure if I’d be alive and functioning today. Some of the prescriptions I’ve been given have rendered me useless both physically and mentally where I haven’t been able to function whatsoever yet these drugs are, not only viewed as safe and effective but socially acceptable. Are we really all conditioned to believe this BS?


I made my post stating I’m a cannabis user because I’m proud that I got off the man made pharmaceuticals drugs that were destroying my mind and body.
Aren’t we past needing to hide this information?


Does stating that one uses cannabis instantly make them a ‘bad’ person?


What are your thoughts?

There are people all over the U.S. that don't agree with certain things people do. Yes, they will judge, but, to me, "judging" is just a part of life that people do even if they won't admit it.
 
You wouldn't think this way if someone rear-ended your car and it was found that they had been smoking "dobies", a pipe or bong.

Still wouldn't be as bad as losing one's sister when she had just graduated from nursing school to a drunk driver.

On average, 28 people a day die from DWI.

0 from toking and driving.
 
CR.....I wouldn't want a person using a bong rear ending my vehicle anymore than I'd want a drunk person rear ending me.

How about.......

1. Six million injuries per year related to cell phone use while driving.

2. 330,000 injuries per year caused by texting while driving.

3. 1 out of every 4 car accidents caused by texting while driving.

Along with MJ maybe the ATF also needs to make owning a cell phone a felony. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[video]https://www.edgarsnyder.com/car-accident/cause-of-accident/cell-phone/cell-phone-statistics.html[/video]
 
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The old Harry Anslinger quote from nearly a century ago comes to mind:



Unfortunately this quote resonated with the xenophobes of the time and carried on for many decades.

The term "marijuana" has come to be associated with the idea that cannabis is a dangerous and addictive intoxicant, not a healing plant. The actions of the DEA in making it a Schedule I drug (with no medicinal value!) have only strengthened that perception, and the value of arresting and incarcerating users is a multi-billion dollar industry with connections in high places.

Does it make one a bad person? Definitely not. I'm a cannabis supporter and user and am not generally considered a "bad" person.

But in the eyes of the Federal government and the old-timers with a glass of whiskey in their hand and a cigar in their mouth? I'm a felon.

I think the perception is changing ... slowly.
That marijuana causes white women to seek relationships with *****es, entertainers and any others? SERIOUSLY?
:saywhat:

A major light bulb moment happening here for me.
So with the above mentioned and adding the fact that I grow , goodness me, I probably am a drug dealer also. Right?
And heaven forbid if I were to joke around about such topics I must be really of immoral character.
Gosh, I admit to being gullible and naive but I didnt quite understand the picture I was painting of myself with this type of thinking.
Wow!
I guess I should chalk this up to a lesson learned.
Thats mind boggling to say the least.
Sad really. :upset:
:shrug:
 
That marijuana causes white women to seek relationships with *****es, entertainers and any others? SERIOUSLY?
:saywhat:

A major light bulb moment happening here for me.
So with the above mentioned and adding the fact that I grow , goodness me, I probably am a drug dealer also. Right?
And heaven forbid if I were to joke around about such topics I must be really of immoral character.
Gosh, I admit to being gullible and naive but I didnt quite understand the picture I was painting of myself with this type of thinking.
Wow!
I guess I should chalk this up to a lesson learned.
Thats mind boggling to say the least.
Sad really. :upset:
:shrug:

Sorry, but I told you that not everyone is like you. Certain things are accepted, while other things are not or not as much. Some folks say things that others can take personally, or even too personally, while others are just joking around.

Actually, I don't know if the statement was to be a joke or serious. If it was serious, definitely could've been the wrong thing to say.
 
That marijuana causes white women to seek relationships with *****es, entertainers and any others? SERIOUSLY?
:saywhat:

A major light bulb moment happening here for me.
So with the above mentioned and adding the fact that I grow , goodness me, I probably am a drug dealer also. Right?
And heaven forbid if I were to joke around about such topics I must be really of immoral character.
Gosh, I admit to being gullible and naive but I didnt quite understand the picture I was painting of myself with this type of thinking.
Wow!
I guess I should chalk this up to a lesson learned.
Thats mind boggling to say the least.
Sad really. :upset:
:shrug:

It is indeed very sad, but that's the unvarnished history of cannabis perception and treatment in this country.

They didn't even demonize alcohol that badly during Prohibition.

Documented use of cannabis in a legal sense goes back to around 7,000 BC. In fact, it was legally required to be grown in the U.S. back in the early 1600's in Jamestown.

It was only with the influx of Mexican workers into the U.S. at the turn of the 20th century that things began to change. The dislike of "foreigners" led to laws against weed usage and growing.

William Randolph Hearst also played a major role in the prohibition of cannabis. He had lost hundreds of thousands of acres of timberland to Pancho Villa, his paper production was threatened by hemp, and the yellow journalism stories of Mexicans killing each other when high sold newspapers. He became a staunch ally of Anslinger.

“By the tons it is coming into this country – the deadly, dreadful poison that racks and tears not only the body, but the very heart and soul of every human being who once becomes a slave to it in any of its cruel and devastating forms.... Marihuana is a short cut to the insane asylum. Smoke marihuana cigarettes for a month and what was once your brain will be nothing but a storehouse of horrid specters.”

This toxic duo was joined by Dupont, the pharmaceutical companies and the tobacco industry, each having their own axes to grind.

As a result, the Federal Bureau of Narcotics was rammed through Congress without a single scientific study and began their quest to eliminate cannabis.

But that wasn't the end of it - not by a long shot.

In the '50's the FBN linked marijuana usage to heroin usage - the "stepping-stone" theory. Add in the Cold War paranoia (China was sending heroin to the U.S. to destroy our souls) and you had a real witch's brew. The Boggs Act in 1951 lumped cannabis together with heroin and cocaine. Again, no scientific studies offered.

That's just a short version of the downfall of cannabis in the U.S.
 
It is indeed very sad, but that's the unvarnished history of cannabis perception and treatment in this country.

They didn't even demonize alcohol that badly during Prohibition.

Documented use of cannabis in a legal sense goes back to around 7,000 BC. In fact, it was legally required to be grown in the U.S. back in the early 1600's in Jamestown.

It was only with the influx of Mexican workers into the U.S. at the turn of the 20th century that things began to change. The dislike of "foreigners" led to laws against weed usage and growing.

William Randolph Hearst also played a major role in the prohibition of cannabis. He had lost hundreds of thousands of acres of timberland to Pancho Villa, his paper production was threatened by hemp, and the yellow journalism stories of Mexicans killing each other when high sold newspapers. He became a staunch ally of Anslinger.



This toxic duo was joined by Dupont, the pharmaceutical companies and the tobacco industry, each having their own axes to grind.

As a result, the Federal Bureau of Narcotics was rammed through Congress without a single scientific study and began their quest to eliminate cannabis.

But that wasn't the end of it - not by a long shot.

In the '50's the FBN linked marijuana usage to heroin usage - the "stepping-stone" theory. Add in the Cold War paranoia (China was sending heroin to the U.S. to destroy our souls) and you had a real witch's brew. The Boggs Act in 1951 lumped cannabis together with heroin and cocaine. Again, no scientific studies offered.

That's just a short version of the downfall of cannabis in the U.S.

I think you either avoided or didn't see the sentence you wrote that Keesha was shocked about. Take a look at your one sentence at the end of your last reply.
 
I think the perception is changing ... slowly.

I think you either avoided or didn't see the sentence you wrote that Keesha was shocked about. Take a look at your one sentence at the end of your last reply.

I saw it just fine. That's why I replied with what I did. An expansion on the prejudices.
I had this long post written out but I suppose ‘this’ is something I have seriously underestimated all my life. This is one of those moments in time where everything stands still . Perhaps I’m too open minded a person living in a closed minded world but I would have never connected those dots. If you are happy and friendly and use then 1 + 1 + 1 = 3

Somehow I’d forgotten how shallow the human race can be.
I’m not upset at anyone in particular. It’s just been a bit of an eye opener for me, that’s all.
An awakening.

Thank you for your honest response. It’s really appreciated.
 
Still wouldn't be as bad as losing one's sister when she had just graduated from nursing school to a drunk driver.

On average, 28 people a day die from DWI.

0 from toking and driving.

https://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/25/colorado-marijuana-traffic-fatalities/

Among The Post’s other findings:
  • Marijuana is figuring into more fatal crashes overall. In 2013, drivers tested positive for the drug in about 10 percent of all fatal crashes. By 2016, it was 20 percent.
  • More drivers are testing positive for marijuana and nothing else. Of the drivers involved in fatal crashes in 2014 who tested positive for cannabinoids, more than 52 percent had no alcohol in their system. By 2016, it had grown to 69 percent.
 
https://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/25/colorado-marijuana-traffic-fatalities/

Among The Post’s other findings:

  • Marijuana is figuring into more fatal crashes overall. In 2013, drivers tested positive for the drug in about 10 percent of all fatal crashes. By 2016, it was 20 percent.
  • More drivers are testing positive for marijuana and nothing else. Of the drivers involved in fatal crashes in 2014 who tested positive for cannabinoids, more than 52 percent had no alcohol in their system. By 2016, it had grown to 69 percent.

From that very article -

... Colorado transportation and public safety officials, however, say the rising number of pot-related traffic fatalities cannot be definitively linked to legalized marijuana.
Positive test results reflected in the NHTSA data do not indicate whether a driver was high at the time of the crash since traces of marijuana use from weeks earlier also can appear as a positive result ...

In other words - sensationalism as usual.

Just as an aside - the CEO of the Denver Post, William Dean Singleton, bought out several large San Francisco papers. His partner?

William Randolph Hearst.
 
Interesting observations. Many of my clients suffer from severe CPTSD. Most have run the gamut of pharmaceutical intervention with questionable efficacy, and some very serious side effects due to the high doses recommended to address their symptoms. Some turn to alcohol and various other drugs to self medicate when traditional methods fail. Among a minority of individuals, this can result in some bizarre and

sometimes violent behaviour. Often, the substitution of medical marijuana reduces their symptoms, allows them to function in a much more normal fashion, and greatly reduces, or eliminates violent incidents . Some also find that recreational marijuana greatly reduces their anxiety.
 
Hi Senex, Here's the link to where the discussion about the CBD balm and drops started. The discussion is scattered amongst Gary's awesome pics and tales of living off the grid in the Oregon wilderness. https://www.seniorforums.com/showthread.php/31353-Our-version-of-retirement-Living-a-childhood-dream?p=785001#post785001
I do suggest reading that entire thread from the beginning when you have a chance, the way Gary and his wife are spending their retirement along with Gary's craftsmanship is nothing short of amazing!

Here is the link to the balm we use, you can find the CBD drops on this site as well. I highly recommend the balm and you might have some luck with the drops. We've been using the 500mg strength and it's been working great. Good luck!
https://www.gogreenhemp.com/products/gogreen-hemp-cbd-balm-salve

Thanks so much for the help! I will look through the discussion you linked to carefully, and I have decided to give the CBD balm a try. I believe you mentioned using the 500mg sort, so I will get a jar from gogreenhemp, and give it a try on the rheumatoid arthritis in my neck (supposedly its the cause of my headaches).
 
Thanks so much for the help! I will look through the discussion you linked to carefully, and I have decided to give the CBD balm a try. I believe you mentioned using the 500mg sort, so I will get a jar from gogreenhemp, and give it a try on the rheumatoid arthritis in my neck (supposedly its the cause of my headaches).

Senex
I gotta come clean
I looked at our tin of balm a few days ago
it's 1000mg (thought it was 250mg, may have said as much)

In a nutshell; I can't recall anyone I've told about this not having good results
some have told me they had less pain
others gushed about complete relief

I'd appreciate your feedback

cheers
 
Mine is 1,000mg, the tin was surprisingly tiny when I got it, looked bigger on the website. :) I did get some relief from a back injury that's already almost gone, so I didn't waste anymore on my back, but am holding onto it and use it when I really need it. It doesn't pertain to me, but I noticed on the website that there is a discount for veterans or people on disability. Had fun reading the label. :magnify:
 
Mine is 1,000mg, the tin was surprisingly tiny when I got it, looked bigger on the website. :) I did get some relief from a back injury that's already almost gone, so I didn't waste anymore on my back, but am holding onto it and use it when I really need it. It doesn't pertain to me, but I noticed on the website that there is a discount for veterans or people on disability. Had fun reading the label. :magnify:

We just smear enough on our fingertips to feel it, not see it, and massage that into the targeted area for a few seconds

Heh, I actually did use a magnifying glass to read the label
 


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