Medical Marijuana.. what do you think about it?

RadishRose

RadishRose

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Has medical marijuana helped you or anyone you know?
Is there a dispensary in your location?

There seems to be a trend toward more states allowing marijuana for certain treatments.
 

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I think...wow, um, yeah...some Oreo's would be great right now...is there like more cream or cookie? I mean if you made the cookie like cream and measured it against regular cream would they be like the same? These are amazing...Oh you wanted to know about medical marijuana? Yeah absolutely! Oh wait what was the question I forgot...have a cookie?
 
Snicker, Furry!

I don't know anyone personally who has used it but know friends of friends who find it relieves nausea from chemo.
 

I know a woman who smokes constantly for pain relief. She's been involved in nine car accidents (none her fault by the way) and after years of taking pharmaceuticals, she was able to switch to smoking pot and it's helped immeasurably. And after looking at Rick Simpsons story of curing cancer with marijuana oil and hearing the stories about children and seizure relief from it, I'm pretty much convinced that it has medicinal properties that the pharmaceutical industry is simply refusing to research. I once watched a documentary a few years back and the researcher that they were talking to said the main reason that more research hasn't been done on it here is due to the hoops that governments force you to jump through just to get started. Prohibitive. That has to change.
 
I have a friend who smokes pot to relieve severe chronic pain. She no longer requires percosets. Recently she informed me that Canadian researchers (what a great job, snicker,) have developed a strain of medical marijuana they believe will be efficacious in treating arthritis. Fantastic if it works.
 
My sister in law battled brain cancer in the late 1980's going through the radiation and chemo repeatedly. At that time of course you needed to find alternate means to get marijuana. But it helped ease the nausea and gave her an appetite. I'm sure it relieved pain and elevated her mood as well. An aunt who had an inoperable stomach tumor wouldn't have dreamed of smoking weed. After awhile the morphine didn't even touch the pain. I'm sure my sister in law died much more comfortably one way or another. Legalize it.
 
This topic is near and dear to me, as some of you may know. I have several friends using MMJ (and probably several hundred using it recreationally, but that's another story).

If I got going on this rant it would be an all-day thing, but briefly: yes, the government here is keeping researchers from gaining easy access to MJ for studies. Results that are TOO good are buried. The government is I think still trying to figure out how to control it.

There's no reason, given the studies and results available, that MJ should still be classified as a Schedule 1 narcotic, other than someone in that office is getting high on their own supply.

I firmly believe it has its place in the world of medicine. I only wish PA were a legal state - I would use it myself for my nausea and pains. As it is, I have to use prescriptions that only serve to make me more nauseous and do nothing for the pain.
 
Interesting. I knew it relived nausea, but honestly did not know it relieved pain. Who need the pharmaceutical companies anyway, just grow it, but I'm sure I'm missing something there.
 
Oh, yeah, it relieves pain, or perhaps more likely it masks the pain for a while, giving you some relief.

Of course, it depends upon what kind of pain as well.
 
There is a dispensary in my city. I don't use it myself since way back in the early 80's, but a good friend can't seem to find a doc here to prescribe it for her.

Admittedly she uses it for recreation when she can get it, but she also has a medical condition that would seem to benefit from the relaxing effects of pot (involves a blood vein in her head). Although her doctor admits pot might help her, the doc won't prescribe. it but prescribes prednisone instead.
 
I have strong feelings about this. It's a scientific fact that medical cannabis relieves seizures almost completely and often 100%. Whether it's epileptic seizures or psychotic seizures as well as socio-pathic seizures, etc, medical cannabis is a miracle worker (recreational marijuana can also help with behavioral disorders but not as well). Children dying of seizures can be saved and have been. But they must move to one of the states where it's legalized and some can't afford to move. Regarding insurance, I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think it's covered.

Medical cannabis and recreational marijuana are two different things. There are many different types of medical cannabis that works best when matched specifically to the individuals needs. Medical cannabis has no negative side effects (recreational marijuana, pot, has minimal side effects like slow reactions but is also helpful…but not as much).

Here's a bone-chilling truth about all the mass shootings…almost all of the mass murderers have similar profiles which include symptoms of psychotic and sociopathic behavior that causes them to want to kill and with no conscience or regrets. Medical cannabis can change them completely (unless they go off of it).

Here's the problem. First, they don't think they have a problem and therefore won't agree to a medical evaluation needed to receive the medical cannabis. They're typically very smart. Secondly, if they do get diagnosed with a psychotic disorder by a psychiatrist, they are given prescription drugs that have significantly negative side effects causing the patient to discard their use. Without a medical diagnosis and treatment most end up in jail or a mental health facility (or die in violence)….both facilities are mostly understaffed and overcrowded and won't be able to rehabilitate the psychopath or sociopath. Actually, I don't think it's even possible to rehabilitate other than cognitive therapy groups but what psychopath is going to sit for that.

Yes, I have observed a sociopath with violent tendencies both on and off marijuana (not cannabis) and the difference is remarkable…night and day. Some say that Pot can sometimes cause psychotic behavior but pot is different than medical cannabis. And I wonder if their statement is true…maybe sometimes but the one time I have observed this it only helped…big time. I have a friend with children that suffer from seizures. It works for them IF they stay on it. Legalized medical cannabis would all but end these mass killings if we can just make it easy for them to get it. Well, and tighten gun controls.

 
RadishRose said:
There is a dispensary in my city. I don't use it myself since way back in the early 80's, but a good friend can't seem to find a doc here to prescribe it for her.
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I wonder if that would be Prime Wellness ...

Admittedly she uses it for recreation when she can get it, but she also has a medical condition that would seem to benefit from the relaxing effects of pot (involves a blood vein in her head). Although her doctor admits pot might help her, the doc won't prescribe. it but prescribes prednisone instead.
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Some docs are more reticent to prescribe than others. Basically they claim that you need to have a "debilitating condition" before they'll prescribe; in other words, you have to be knocking on death's door. :(

Prednisone ... wonderful. Fill her up with steroids. :rolleyes:
 
RadishRose said:
Has medical marijuana helped you or anyone you know?
Is there a dispensary in your location?

There seems to be a trend toward more states allowing marijuana for certain treatments.
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I don't know anyone using MMJ, but I would be willing to try it for the pain I have that Ibuprofen doesn't help with. Tylenol has never helped me, and my gastroenterologist advises that Tylenol stresses my liver unacceptably.

However, even though MMJ is legal in California my employer(the State of California) states that I would be subject to termination for MMJ use, if the Federal Government bans it.
 
SifuPhil said:
I wonder if that would be Prime Wellness ...



Some docs are more reticent to prescribe than others. Basically they claim that you need to have a "debilitating condition" before they'll prescribe; in other words, you have to be knocking on death's door. :(

Prednisone ... wonderful. Fill her up with steroids. :rolleyes:
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SifuPhil said:
I wonder if that would be Prime Wellness ... Just looked it up Phil, it is!
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Friends of mine moved to Colorado because they had a child who has seizures and were looking for treatment with Cannobolis (sp?) oil and it has by far helped her seizures. Since then, Georgia has passed a law legalizing the oil and they are moving back to Georgia. Before that, I would not have been in favor of legalizing but when I saw the difference it made in this child, I was won over!!!
 
Lara, I didn't know there was a difference between medical & recreational in that the product is different! I just thought those terms were just to signify the use. Thanks for all the info, very interesting.
 
Both medical and recreational marijuana is legal and accessible where I live, and I think that's a very good thing and it should have been legalized decades ago, IMO.

I've read of many benefits of cannabis, pain control, seizures as Triple-A mentioned, etc., etc. I don't know of anyone personally who is using it for medical reasons, but I would not hesitate if I needed it for any health issue. Far better than all the pharmaceuticals out there that are not only addictive, but have a laundry list of serious harmful side-effects both physical and mental. I wish when my sister was dying of cancer and its "treatments" of chemotherapy and radiation, that she could have had access to cannabis to help ease her pain.
 
RadishRose said:
Lara, I didn't know there was a difference between medical & recreational in that the product is different! I just thought those terms were just to signify the use. Thanks for all the info, very interesting.
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To get probably too nerdy here ...

Usually you would use a variety of Cannabis indica for medical conditions and Cannabis sativa for "getting high", but that's probably a gross simplification. It all depends upon how they cross-breed the plants, the amounts of enzymes involved (THC, CBD), etc.

It really is a science.
 
In the interests of clarity, medical pot is not a cure-all for sociopaths and psychopaths. While a small minority of these individuals may present with grand mal seizures, which can be contained through marijuana, pot does not cure these conditions. Frankly, nothing does. Some of these individuals can be sedated into submission, but science has yet to illustrate any proven method of either containment or cure. If they wish to be violent, they will be. Psychopaths in particular, are not mentally ill. They are quite able to discern the difference between right and wrong, they just don't care. Narcissists par excellence, they lack fear, empathy, conscience, very limited emotional expression. Sociopaths are a pallid (in oversimplified terms) reflection of this phenomenon. Also, many diagnosed as afflicted with either of these disorders, are in fact suffering from various more common conflict disorders-much more treatable. You might as well attempt to cure paedophilia with pot as to expect psychopath/sociopathic cures.
 
SifuPhil said:
To get probably too nerdy here ...

Usually you would use a variety of Cannabis indica for medical conditions and Cannabis sativa for "getting high", but that's probably a gross simplification. It all depends upon how they cross-breed the plants, the amounts of enzymes involved (THC, CBD), etc.



It really is a science.
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Phil, thanks for the info. Your explanation of Cannabis indica struck a nostalgic note; that was the name of one of our favorite rolling papers!

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More information about cannabis, epilepsy treatment, etc.


The cannabis plant contains cannabidiol (CBD) and tetrahydrocannabinol (THC). Both have medicinal properties, but whereas THC has psychoactive activity that can make you feel “stoned,” CBD does not. The whole plant also contains a variety of terpenes that have medicinal properties as well.

Through traditional plant breeding and seed exchanges, growers have started producing cannabis plants for medical use that have higher levels of CBD and lower levels of THC. Dr. Allan Frankel, a board-certified internist in California who treats patients with medical cannabis, works with a number of CBD-rich strains.


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How Does Cannabis Compare to Prescription Drugs?

A number of prescription drugsare well known to be dangerous. Pharmaceuticals in general are among the leading causes of death in the US, and some drugs have killed tens of thousands of individuals. The painkiller Vioxx is one classic example that killed over 60,000 before being pulled off the market.

According to Dr. Gedde, cannabis is certainly far safer than most prescription drugs, and there’s enough information to compare it against the known toxicities of many drugs currently in use. This includes liver and kidney toxicity, gastrointestinal damage, nerve damage and, of course, death.

Moreover, cannabidiol and other cannabis products often work when other medications fail, so not only are they generally safer, cannabis preparations also tend to provide greater efficacy.

As noted by Dr. Gedde:

“There’s an ongoing death rate from use of pain medications as prescribed. So, even as prescribed, they’re highly dangerous and they are open to abuse. As far as medications used in the pediatric population to control seizures, there are also severe toxicities to organs. Many of them are very sedating. The children become unable to function or really to interact because of the sedating effects. Other medications have a side effect of rage and behavioral problems.

Unprovoked rage is actually a known side effect of some of the anti-seizure medications. Cannabis and in particular cannabidiol has none of these issues. No toxicities. The main side effect of cannabidiol is sleepiness.

As a child gets accustomed to it, that does wear off and the child can be very alert and functional on the cannabis oil once they have worked into the dosing. Once you put them against each other, there really is no comparison in terms of safety.”


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Cannabis for Seizure Control in Children

In Dr. Gedde’s experience, about 25 percent of children experience a rapid reduction in seizures when given cannabis oil—sometimes within days, or weeks. But results do vary, and not every child will respond well in the immediate term. She notes that some children are so sensitized to medications that they need to start at a very low dose, and give it plenty of time to work.

“We are working out in the clinical practice the protocols that seem to give the best benefit the most quickly to the most children, but we do find that some children get results very quickly. For others, it takes more time, up to a number of months,” she says.

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There’s limited information on using cannabis in children for issues other than epilepsy. However, in January 2015, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) updated their policy statement on marijuana,3 acknowledging that cannabinoids from marijuana “may currently be an option for… children with life-limiting or severely debilitating conditions and for whom current therapies are inadequate.”

The main objection of pediatricians at the Children’s Hospital in Denver to using CBD in children—even for conditions like uncontrolled seizures—is that there are no studies in children of potential harms of long-term use of CBD (cannabidiol). There might be long term adverse effects of CBD and other cannabinoids that we will only come to discover later.

“This is a good point in my view, and a reason not to suggest use of CBD as a dietary supplement or as a general “health tonic” for children,” Dr. Gedde says. “In my view, it is important to weigh the use of a therapy, including potential risks not known, against the risks of the uncontrolled illness itself and of other therapies in use. For many patients, even with incomplete information about CBD, weighing those risks including known toxic effects of their current therapies does point to at least a therapeutic trial with CBD being a good choice.”


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- See more at: http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/ca...nt-of-epilepsy-and-more/#sthash.zHaRE9WB.dpuf
 
We have had a few segments on Sixty Minuites featuring MM and the difference it has made to men , women and children's lives appears to be amazing ....on SM they have mentioned children suffering from epilepsy going from several seizures a day to next to none, its a story that close to my heart ......I was the primary carer of my younger brother ( I had 8 younger than myself to look after ) ( parents spent most of their time in a hotel) anyway he suffered several seizures a day, every day ..he passed away from the epelipsy at age 14 years 11 months to the exact date ..He was not at home at the time as many of my younger siblings were eventually put into foster care ..He (Ronald) was in a reform school at the time he passed away
 

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