Medical Marijuana.. what do you think about it?

SB. You are quite right. MM is incredibly effective in treating seizures. Yes, uncontrolled rage is a horrific side effect of anti seizure meds. MM does not produce such effects. I was referring to it's inefficiency in treating certain personality pathologies.
 
I have a friend that uses the oil for severe COPD. Although it is prescribed by and she is followed by a MD, it is illegal in FL. So obtaining it is rather clandestine and very, very expensive. Fl. is dragging it's feet legaizing it. Want just a small number of registered growers to supply it.
 
Sea, thanks for posting such through info. If I wasn't 100% convinced, I sure am now.

I see from this that the CBD being higher than the THC means the patient would not feel high or stoned. Lol good or bad depending on the person, but seizure and pain control are only good effects!
 
I'm a strong supporter of medical marijuana use, and I also support legalizing it in general. As far as I'm concerned, anything that helps the pain and nausea of those who need it should absolutely be legal. Opponents of its use have clearly seen "Reefer Madness" way too many times.
 
ndynt said:
I have a friend that uses the oil for severe COPD. Although it is prescribed by and she is followed by a MD, it is illegal in FL. So obtaining it is rather clandestine and very, very expensive. Fl. is dragging it's feet legaizing it. Want just a small number of registered growers to supply it.
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That's right - FL recently voted down the referendum to legalize the medical usage, didn't they?

Another reason I'm rethinking FL as my final destination - hello, Colorado! ;)
 
Shalimar said:
In the interests of clarity, medical pot is not a cure-all for sociopaths and psychopaths. While a small minority of these individuals may present with grand mal seizures, which can be contained through marijuana, pot does not cure these conditions. Frankly, nothing does. Some of these individuals can be sedated into submission, but science has yet to illustrate any proven method of either containment or cure. If they wish to be violent, they will be. Psychopaths in particular, are not mentally ill. They are quite able to discern the difference between right and wrong, they just don't care. Narcissists par excellence, they lack fear, empathy, conscience, very limited emotional expression. Sociopaths are a pallid (in oversimplified terms) reflection of this phenomenon. Also, many diagnosed as afflicted with either of these disorders, are in fact suffering from various more common conflict disorders-much more treatable. You might as well attempt to cure paedophilia with pot as to expect psychopath/sociopathic cures.
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If "science has yet to illustrate any proven method of either containment or cure", that isn't a dismissal of pot - just an acknowledgment of "not knowing".

I know you're taking the professional road here, but there are a few colloquial stories about pot helping socio/psycopaths. In those stories it is said that the pot tends to open up certain emotions or at least give the illusion of them. Once those emotions are released, however, what to do with them and how to control them remains problematic.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but many wrongly / self-diagnosed socio/psycopaths DO really suffer from things like depression, correct? Pot might be just the thing for that condition ...




From a high-functioning sociopath.
 
Phil, where wrongly diagnosed socio/psychopaths are concerned I agree with you. Pot can be very helpful with depression, just as Ecstasy, although illegal, has been very effective in treating severe PTSD. About the emotional control thing, you hit the crux of the matter, without inner controls, releasing certain emotions real or chemically induced, can be very problematic. For these individuals (psycho/sociopaths,) inhibition is a good thing.
 
The only problem in using it for psychological issues is it's hard to tell how someone is going to react to it sometimes. I used to have friends that would happily get baked and sit around discussing Oreos, Jerry Garcia and how there might be a whole universe in that piece of wallpaper over there. Me? Heeheehee...um, I never inhaled? But it just made me feel uncomfortably out there. But I mean for a lot of people it can be like a weekend cocktail...look at Willie:playful:
 
I just don't understand why people get so wound up about marijuana use. It is a drug like any other. Many more powerful drugs are used for pain, etc., like oxy, etc., but no one gets all wound up about that, unless they get abused. Why is marijuana such a lightning rod to so many people? I knew two guys with AIDS, and marijuana did much to relieve their suffering before they both died. Why in the world is that such a terrible thing? But instead of being able to obtain it legally, they had to go to great lengths, and risk prosecution, to obtain it illegally (or get their friends to obtain it illegally for them -- just to relieve their suffering. Same thing for people with side effects of chemo. It is just stupid, and also inhumane.

INMO, marijuana is not nearly as dangerous as alcohol -- most potheads just sit around, as fureverywhere pointed out, contemplating the meaning of life, or the wallpaper, and eat a buncha potato chips. They don't go and knock their spouses around, or commit axe murder. Much too mellow for that sort of thing.
 
SifuPhil said:
This topic is near and dear to me, as some of you may know. I have several friends using MMJ (and probably several hundred using it recreationally, but that's another story).

If I got going on this rant it would be an all-day thing, but briefly: yes, the government here is keeping researchers from gaining easy access to MJ for studies. Results that are TOO good are buried. The government is I think still trying to figure out how to control it.

There's no reason, given the studies and results available, that MJ should still be classified as a Schedule 1 narcotic, other than someone in that office is getting high on their own supply.

I firmly believe it has its place in the world of medicine. I only wish PA were a legal state - I would use it myself for my nausea and pains. As it is, I have to use prescriptions that only serve to make me more nauseous and do nothing for the pain.
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I didn't know you were dealing with those kinds of issues, Phil. I'm really sorry to hear that. Its certainly not repressing you on here, and may even explains some of your occasional whacko posts.
 
I think it's a two-fold problem:

First, we're still fighting the slur campaign started way back in the '30's by William Randolph Hurst, who felt it was endangering his wood pulp business. Since then there have been tons of propaganda messages influencing people.

Second, this country makes way too much money on busting people for possessing a few joints. The privatized prisons make a fortune.
 
Underock1 said:
I didn't know you were dealing with those kinds of issues, Phil. I'm really sorry to hear that. Its certainly not repressing you on here, and may even explains some of your occasional whacko posts.
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Heh, heh ... no, that kind of thinking and writing began as a child. It's only beginning in the last few months that I could blame the medical problems. ;)
 
The more I read this thread, the more I would like to give it a shot.
I've always avoided anything, legal or otherwise, that would affect my brain. At this point in my life, its going anyway, so why not have some fun?:woohoo:
I could enjoy contemplating my wall paper. Now if only my grandsons were still in high school..
 
Rock, I believe Jersey has had legal medical marijuana for several years now. Of course you have to go through a physician.

But yeah - it might be easier to hang around the school yard ...
 
SifuPhil said:
Rock, I believe Jersey has had legal medical marijuana for several years now. Of course you have to go through a physician.

But yeah - it might be easier to hang around the school yard ...
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Thanks, Phil. That's good to know from a serious view point. I'll tuck that away in my brain. Hope I can find it if there's a need.
 
Shalimar said:
Underock, somehow I doubt you are shocked one whit. Lolololol. Here I thought I was sooo delicate in my delivery. Snickerrrr.
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You were. I think I confused you with someone else. I just edited my post, but not in time. But as long s you admit it now;
shocking, just shocking!!:eek:mg1:
 
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