Mein Kampf to be publish again! But should it?

Ralphy1

Ralphy1

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The copyright law has expired and publishers will be able to print it for the first time in seventy years. Some say it will just lead to renewed interest in Nazism and a resurgence of hatred. I doubt this old chestnut will stir up much interest and I think censorship is wrong. You don't have to agree with me but you probably should...
 

I think banning it would add to its charm for people likely to be influenced by it.
Better to allow publication and shred its philosophy in the light of modern knowledge of history.
 
Ralphy1 said:
The copyright law has expired and publishers will be able to print it for the first time in seventy years. Some say it will just lead to renewed interest in Nazism and a resurgence of hatred. I doubt this old chestnut will stir up much interest and I think censorship is wrong. You don't have to agree with me but you probably should...
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Resurgence of hatred? You don't see it growing day by day... only the targets are now people of Middle Eastern heritage.
 

Warrigal said:
I think banning it would add to its charm for people likely to be influenced by it.
Better to allow publication and shred its philosophy in the light of modern knowledge of history.
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What charm?
Read it in German (after I was repatriated), wanted to know what all the fuss was about.
It was not required reading during my childhood in Germany, probably for good reason. Remember it being very boring and uninspired, worse than Hitler's speeches! (These we were forced to listen to while at school!)
Have you read it. or are you planning to read it?
Time would be better spent reading Goethe, Schiller, or Shakespeare.
 
If you are comparing Trump along that line... the only folks he is psyching up is 25% of the people that tend to vote in Republican primaries.. The Rightest of the Right.
 
But the homegrown militias may be willing to spill blood on his behalf...
 
Warrigal said:
I think banning it would add to its charm for people likely to be influenced by it.
Better to allow publication and shred its philosophy in the light of modern knowledge of history.
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Absolutely!

It would create a black market and cult surrounding the book. Can't learn from history unless one can analyze it with as much information possible.
 
Butterfly said:
It's always been in libraries and you can buy it online from Amazon and probably other places too. It's not like it has fallen off the earth.
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And that's the kicker. This should be a mention and non controversial story. The zealots or ambitious would've gotten the book already.
 
Of course it should.

Like Magna Carta and the American Declaration of Independence it is a historical document whicj caused major upheaval in the world.

If the works of left wing authors like Lenin and Trotsky can be published, so should equally ridiculous right wing claptrap.
 
I feel the nuts who might be influenced by it probably wouldn't even be able to plod through the translation...they'd need Cliff Notes for skinheads
 
I wonder if there was an equal amount of hysteria over getting the Bible published - it too tells of a Way to be followed, the rewards and penalties involved and the adoration of the leaders ...
 
Warrigal said:
There was plenty of hysteria over getting the bible published in languages other than Latin.
It was thought to be dangerous in the hands of the common people.
And they were right about that.
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So why hasn't its philosophy been shred in light of modern knowledge of history?

(I know, that's a set-up question if ever there was one)
 
The philosophy stands up to criticism.
The mythology is shred in the light of modern scientific knowledge.
The history is questioned but not disproved.
The poetry still has some admirers.
 
"I wonder if there was an equal amount of hysteria over getting the Bible published "

In English there certainly was, and people were put on trial.
 
Warrigal said:
The philosophy stands up to criticism.
The mythology is shred in the light of modern scientific knowledge.
The history is questioned but not disproved.
The poetry still has some admirers.
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I believe the philosophy and mythology go hand in hand, thus if one survives so does the other.

The history not disproved ... I thought the burden of proof fell upon the claimants.

Laurie said:
In English there certainly was, and people were put on trial.
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Could you please cite a reference for that? I can't seem to find any - my searches are probably faulty ...
 
So should we set up a Fahrenheit 41 style book burning when books of which "we" (whoever "we" is -- probably related to "they") do not approve?? That's a little scary-- a lot more scary than a reprinting of Mein Kampf. Mein Kampf is a book which has its place in history -- shall we obliterate all writings from history of which we do not approve?

Do not get me wrong -- I abhor the teachings of Hitler and everything he did - he was without a doubt a monster. But we can't just go around obliterating history. Seems like somebody said "Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it."
 
I remember watching the Fahrenheit 451 movie on TV years ago - one thing that really stuck with me was the beginning. I recall firetrucks racing past with sirens blaring, and a little boy says to his mother "Look, Mummy - firemen! There's going to be a fire!"

Haunting stuff.

Good or bad, I believe that any historical document should be freely available for all to learn from.
 
SifuPhil said:
Could you please cite a reference for that? I can't seem to find any - my searches are probably faulty ...
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Wycliffe’s efforts to get the Scriptures into the language of the English-speaking peoples enraged the Vatican. The Church fought against the Bible being translated into vernacular languages for fear it would undermine unbiblical traditions like indulgences. The rage of the Vatican was so great, that 40 years after Wycliffe had died, the Pope ordered that his bones be dug up, crushed, and scattered in a river.6 The opposition of the Church throughout this period was, in fact, so virulent that in 1517 seven people were ordered to be burned at the stake for teaching their children to say the Lord’s Prayer in English rather than in Latin.7 - See more at: http://christinprophecy.org/articles/the-king-james-bible/#sthash.x462cXDX.dpuf"

http://christinprophecy.org/articles/the-king-james-bible/
 
SifuPhil said:
I remember watching the Fahrenheit 451 movie on TV years ago - one thing that really stuck with me was the beginning. I recall firetrucks racing past with sirens blaring, and a little boy says to his mother "Look, Mummy - firemen! There's going to be a fire!"

Haunting stuff.

Good or bad, I believe that any historical document should be freely available for all to learn from.
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You should try reading the book -- it's by Ray Bradbury. I love everything he ever wrote. His style is positively enchanting.
 

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