Michael Eades: New Hypothesis of Obesity

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amwassil

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The science is a bit complicated, but the recommendations are very simple.

 

"The Eades promoted the diet in their book Protein Power: The High-Protein/Low Carbohydrate Way to Lose Weight, Feel Fit, and Boost Your Health-in Just Weeks!, first published in 1996.[1]

The idea behind Protein Power is that reducing the intake of carbohydrates will reduce the amount of insulin released into the body.[2] According to the diet, insulin controls the storage of fat which is triggered by the intake of carbohydrates. Protein Power promotes an animal based diet rich in meat, dairy and eggs. The claims of the diet have not been scientifically demonstrated.[3]

Protein Power has been described as a fad diet and pseudoscientific.[3][4][5][6] High-protein diets such as Protein Power may bring about temporary weight loss via calorie restriction but are not effective for permanent weight control.[3][4]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_Power
 

Paco Dennis said:
"The Eades promoted the diet in their book Protein Power: The High-Protein/Low Carbohydrate Way to Lose Weight, Feel Fit, and Boost Your Health-in Just Weeks!, first published in 1996.[1]

The idea behind Protein Power is that reducing the intake of carbohydrates will reduce the amount of insulin released into the body.[2] According to the diet, insulin controls the storage of fat which is triggered by the intake of carbohydrates. Protein Power promotes an animal based diet rich in meat, dairy and eggs. The claims of the diet have not been scientifically demonstrated.[3]

Protein Power has been described as a fad diet and pseudoscientific.[3][4][5][6] High-protein diets such as Protein Power may bring about temporary weight loss via calorie restriction but are not effective for permanent weight control.[3][4]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_Power
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THANK YOU @Paco Dennis for the last paragraph in your post!!!! it can accurately apply to ALL fad diets.

If a person wants to be healthy, the ONLY approach is a balanced, nutritious diet.. and if a person wants to lose weight, to reduce the calories in that balanced, nutritious diet.
 
@Pepper

The presentation discusses primarily linoleic acid and how it - and other PUFAs (polyunsaturated fats) - negatively effect the utilization and storage of fat in adipose tissue by interrupting mitachondrial processing. Eades discusses in detail how this occurs. The result is excess storage of fat and increased appetite to consume more, since much of the energy is being stored rather than used. One of Eade's recommendations at the very end is to avoid all processed oils containing linoleic acid which is pretty much all so-called vegetable oils, and especially those containing large amounts of linoleic acid: such as canola, soya, etc. Personally, I consider all PUFAs other than those that occur naturally in animal fats, including cold water fish, not fit for human consumption.
 
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amwassil said:
@Pepper

The presentation discusses primarily linoleic acid and how it - and other PUFAs (polyunsaturated fats) - negatively effect the utilization and storage of fat in adipose tissue by interrupting mitachondrial processing. Eades discusses in detail how this occurs. The result is excess storage of fat and increased appetite to consume more, since much of the energy is being stored rather than used. One of Eade's recommendations at the very end is to avoid all processed oils containing linoleic acid which is pretty much all so-called vegetable oils, and especially those containing large amounts of linoleic acid: such as canola, soya, etc. Personally, I consider all PUFA other than those that occur naturally in animal fats, including cold water fish, not fit for human consumption.
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So the theory is too much PUFA and you'll end up PUFFY? :oops:

(sorry, couldn't resist) :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
I'll ask a simple question to you folks who seem convinced that you know better. We are currently in the midst of a world-wide pandemic of metabolic diseases: CVD, diabetes, obesity and many other related chronic diseases. How does this come about when we're eating the 'low fat high carb' and 'heart healthy' diet recommended by our dietary and nutritional betters. And stats show quite clearly that most of us are eating close to exactly what we've been told to eat by these so-called 'experts'. How does a balanced, nutritious diet result in this?

Second, I'll point out that we have been eating a high carb diet for less than 10k years and a diet low in animal sat fats and high in processed PUFA seed oils for less than 50 years. The results are catastrophic. Our ancestors ate a diet more closely resembling a ketogenic diet and Eade's recommendations for 4+ million years. We're still here. So what's really the 'fad diet'? What our ancestors ate that enabled them to survive millions of years, or the current SAD that seems to be heading us towards an extinction level event?

'Calories in and calories out' is a tautology. It's not an explanation of why, how and by what processes one's metabolism consumes and uses energy nor why some people gain excess fat and others don't. Human metabolism is more complicated. If you watch the presentation I linked above, you will get an inkling of just how complicated it is. Reducing it to a simple math equation of energy in and energy out is not useful. Energy balance or not is the result not the cause.
 
amwassil said:
'Calories in and calories out' is a tautology. It's not an explanation of why, how and by what processes one's metabolism consumes and uses energy nor why some people gain excess fat and others don't. Human metabolism is more complicated. If you watch the presentation I linked above, you will get an inkling of just how complicated it is. Reducing it to a simple math equation of energy in and energy out is not useful. Energy balance or not is the result not the cause.
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My dad was a perfect example. Around the age of 30 he developed hyperthyroidism. No matter what or how much of it he ate, he lost weight. Within a couple of years he was near death from emaciation. To protect their investment in a good and experienced pilot, the Air Force treated him by nuking his thyroid. It worked and saved his life! But my dad paid for saving his life with obesity, diabetes and CVD for the rest of it. Without a thyroid no matter what nor how little of it he ate, my dad gained weight and developed all the other metabolic disorders that stem from it.

You 'calories in calories out' folks are going to say "Yes, but... his thyroid." To which I say, indeed. It was not calories in and calories out that mattered for my dad, but what his metabolism did with those calories. Hyper - his metabolism burned through energy faster than he could eat it. Hypo - his metabolism stored it faster he could avoid it. His weight loss and gain - and the absence of energy balance - were the result of a malfunctioning thyroid followed by the complete lack of one. His thyroid - or lack thereof - controlled his energy balance, not how much or how little he ate.
 
amwassil said:
I'll ask a simple question to you folks who seem convinced that you know better. We are currently in the midst of a world-wide pandemic of metabolic diseases: CVD, diabetes, obesity and many other related chronic diseases. How does this come about when we're eating the 'low fat high carb' and 'heart healthy' diet recommended by our dietary and nutritional betters. And stats show quite clearly that most of us are eating close to exactly what we've been told to eat by these so-called 'experts'. How does a balanced, nutritious diet result in this?

Second, I'll point out that we have been eating a high carb diet for less than 10k years and a diet low in animal sat fats and high in processed PUFA seed oils for less than 50 years. The results are catastrophic. Our ancestors ate a diet more closely resembling a ketogenic diet and Eade's recommendations for 4+ million years. We're still here. So what's really the 'fad diet'? What our ancestors ate that enabled them to survive millions of years, or the current SAD that seems to be heading us towards an extinction level event?

'Calories in and calories out' is a tautology. It's not an explanation of why, how and by what processes one's metabolism consumes and uses energy nor why some people gain excess fat and others don't. Human metabolism is more complicated. If you watch the presentation I linked above, you will get an inkling of just how complicated it is. Reducing it to a simple math equation of energy in and energy out is not useful. Energy balance or not is the result not the cause.
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We were on the road the other night and wound up eating in a Cracker Barrel. For a variety of reasons, there were no other options.

The caloric content of the foods was very clearly labeled. Nevertheless, the tables were full of very fat people shoveling down fried chicken, fried catfish, mashed potatoes and gravy, Coke and apple pie with ice cream.

So I'm not sure people are eating "heart healthy". Rather I think people say they are eating "heart healthy" then eating what they please.
 
JimBob1952 said:
You could buy us all dinner at the Cheesecake Factory.
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I googled "Cheesecake diet" just for fun. Sure enough, there's one of those too.​

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Keto Diet Cheesecake!​


It is sweet, creamy, satisfying and can stay in the fridge for up to 5 days. (maybe more, but mine have never lasted that long) The absolute best thing about it though?
It is good for you!
If you’ve been looking into the Keto diet, but are worried about your crazy sweet tooth, or how to stay satisfied, you are not alone!

photo of losing 20 pounds with keto




But if done right, you won’t even feel the hunger or miss the sweets like you do in many other diets. For me, doing it right meant having cheesecake.

This is my Easy Keto Cheesecake Recipe. Then I top it off with homemade whipped topping.
 
JustDave said:

I googled "Cheesecake diet" just for fun. Sure enough, there's one of those too.​

​

Keto Diet Cheesecake!​


It is sweet, creamy, satisfying and can stay in the fridge for up to 5 days. (maybe more, but mine have never lasted that long) The absolute best thing about it though?
It is good for you!
If you’ve been looking into the Keto diet, but are worried about your crazy sweet tooth, or how to stay satisfied, you are not alone!

photo of losing 20 pounds with keto




But if done right, you won’t even feel the hunger or miss the sweets like you do in many other diets. For me, doing it right meant having cheesecake.

This is my Easy Keto Cheesecake Recipe. Then I top it off with homemade whipped topping.
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Any balanced diet should include cheesecake. About once a year.

Also, no knock on Cracker Barrel. They do what they do. My point is that people lie all the time about what and how much they eat.
 
JustDave said:

I googled "Cheesecake diet" just for fun. Sure enough, there's one of those too.​

​

Keto Diet Cheesecake!​


It is sweet, creamy, satisfying and can stay in the fridge for up to 5 days. (maybe more, but mine have never lasted that long) The absolute best thing about it though?
It is good for you!
If you’ve been looking into the Keto diet, but are worried about your crazy sweet tooth, or how to stay satisfied, you are not alone!

photo of losing 20 pounds with keto




But if done right, you won’t even feel the hunger or miss the sweets like you do in many other diets. For me, doing it right meant having cheesecake.

This is my Easy Keto Cheesecake Recipe. Then I top it off with homemade whipped topping.
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O boy !! How about some more pichers of them hot wimmen??
 
Alligatorob said:
In my experience any diet that provides fewer calories than you burn will work.

Here is an article on a man who lost 56 pounds eating nothing but McDonald's crap https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-lose-weight-eating-only-mcdonalds-2015-10

That of course would not be healthy for other reasons...
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Fewer calories than you burn has always been my goto plan, but I will guess that just as with any other plan, there is more than one thing to consider if you want to be healthy about it.
 
When I was in high school, I read another one of those most innovative "diets." This one promised you could eat all the fat you wanted, as long as you held your carbs to a minimum. There was a lot of lengthy sciencey sounding reasoning and explanation that gave credibility to the theory. Knowing that I much preferred high fat foods to carbohydrates, I decided to try it. I gained three pounds in a week, or something like that. Maybe it was a self fulfilling prophesy, however. First, I never really believed it even with what passed for science, and somewhere in the find print, it did caution that some self control was also necessary, but the headline did specifically say, "Eat all the fats you want," which is the part that was the most appealing, and which I took to heart. So buttering your cheese for a sandwich without bread, probably wasn't the best idea. Ever since then I've disregarded any new something or other diet as just some writer looking for attention.
 
As we are dealing with obesity, health problems, nutrition, and healthy foods it seems like a no brainer to cut back on highly processed food. Our bodies do not metabolize this non-food stuff. So if you stayaway from it and eat nutritionally it will definitely help. If you you want to really try the low carb, high meat/fat diet/Keto fasting for about 12 hours will change your gut metabolism to start burning your energy with ketosis, just fooling around with this and that is not going to do anything.
 
Paco Dennis said:
As we are dealing with obesity, health problems, nutrition, and healthy foods it seems like a no brainer to cut back on highly processed food. Our bodies do not metabolize this non-food stuff. So if you stayaway from it and eat nutritionally it will definitely help. If you you want to really try the low carb, high meat/fat diet/Keto fasting for about 12 hours will change your gut metabolism to start burning your energy with ketosis, just fooling around with this and that is not going to do anything.
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A thing about "intermittent fasting," though- one of the popular approaches was commonly used in the past, and generally had good results, but it was called something else: "Mealtimes." :)
 
JustDave said:
When I was in high school, I read another one of those most innovative "diets." This one promised you could eat all the fat you wanted, as long as you held your carbs to a minimum. There was a lot of lengthy sciencey sounding reasoning and explanation that gave credibility to the theory. Knowing that I much preferred high fat foods to carbohydrates, I decided to try it. I gained three pounds in a week, or something like that. Maybe it was a self fulfilling prophesy, however. First, I never really believed it even with what passed for science, and somewhere in the find print, it did caution that some self control was also necessary, but the headline did specifically say, "Eat all the fats you want," which is the part that was the most appealing, and which I took to heart. So buttering your cheese for a sandwich without bread, probably wasn't the best idea. Ever since then I've disregarded any new something or other diet as just some writer looking for attention.
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or a heck of a lot of money.
 

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