I believe the rioting and chaos will continue as long as people with an agenda keep things stirred up.
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I believe the rioting and chaos will continue as long as people with an agenda keep things stirred up.
MrJim
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Re: the use of "boy", it's only considered offensive depending upon how it's used. If another guy of similar age, used it in a sneering, derisive way, especially to a black adult male, it could lead to a fight. But if an older person, especially a woman used it in reference to a young man of 18 - early/mid 20's, it is understood that it wasn't meant as an insult. Most young people understand that older folks refer to them as " kid" or "boy", etc.
Re: the rest, shoving an old man half your size while stealing from his store is not simply "schoolboy behavior" or the poor judgement of an undeveloped brain. Guys like him are becoming all too common over here in America. They are called thugs. They listen to hard core rap music, affiliate with gangs & think they can go thru life taking whatever they want then daring others to do something about it.
Even cops.
Which in this case, turned out to be his last mistake.
I personally think there's too much speculation on this case, and the drama the main stream media has drummed up is just adding to the turmoil. We still don't know all the facts. I know there's been a lots of abuse of power by the police in many cases in America, but I have a hard time believing that this officer let out 6 rounds into this young man for no reason at all.
Until we know if Brown charged the officer, or threatened him in any way, it's impossible to say if the cop was justified in using lethal force in this instance. As I've said before, this whole thing would have never even happened if he followed the simple instruction from the cop in the first place, to get back on the sidewalk.
The officer was not aware of the robbery by Brown which occurred beforehand, so that wasn't a factor in the shooting. But, it may have been a factor in the way Brown responded to the officer when told to get out of the street.
I'm sure there's a lot of folks in the city who are not having anything to do with the rioting and looting, so the whole community shouldn't be judged by the small percentage of violent/criminal element. I await some real facts about exactly what took place and why, so far all reports seems to be very vague and suspicious. The way they're reporting the story, definitely does not put the officer in a good light.
Until we know if Brown charged the officer, or threatened him in any way, it's impossible to say if the cop was justified in using lethal force in this instance. As I've said before, this whole thing would have never even happened if he followed the simple instruction from the cop in the first place, to get back on the sidewalk.
The officer was not aware of the robbery by Brown which occurred beforehand, so that wasn't a factor in the shooting. But, it may have been a factor in the way Brown responded to the officer when told to get out of the street.
I'm sure there's a lot of folks in the city who are not having anything to do with the rioting and looting, so the whole community shouldn't be judged by the small percentage of violent/criminal element. I await some real facts about exactly what took place and why, so far all reports seems to be very vague and suspicious. The way they're reporting the story, definitely does not put the officer in a good light.
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I think a lot of unprofessional police view most of the public as potential danger and a potential criminal. The problem besides presumptuous police is that the perpetrators although viewed as a punk ASSume that police are viewing by race and not thuggish behavior when in the fact the police see a thug, not because they are racist but because from their eyes they see punk with an attitude. The perps frequently try to victimize themselves when in fact they are a victim of their behavior and NOT ethnicity. Should the police be acting on attitude-no. But sometimes a thug is just a thug or attitude is just an attitude.
' property management companies' -excellent.
This is why so many support the police or give them cart blanch because it's a job they want to avoid at all costs. Many even view police as their personal protectors or their life is 'special' so they expect to be protected by any means necessary. This is why they equip them like mercenaries.
drifter
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Stealing a box of cigars doesn't equal being shot to death. The military donating this equipment to police is part of the problem. It changes the attitude of already bad attitudes on police forces. Hiring people who are not mentally qualified to deal with people or even carry a gun. Police department's training has changed to make cops feel when they go with this equipment, they are going to war and citizens are the enemy. America is sill very much a racist society. Most cops are like the rest of us. Individually we are nice people. But dressed up in their soldier's uniforms, with their armored equipment, their military weapons, their brand new post 9-11 attitudes and they are a threat to citizens whenever and wherever they are called out. Most small towns would be better off with out a police department. Actually police forces are like Property management companies; they manage these little events for the rest of us. But these littles happenings are small wars. Not to worry, only a few will be killed and Ferguson will go away with everybody back in their place.
[h=1]BREAKING REPORT: Officer Darren Wilson Suffered “Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket” During Mike Brown Attack[/h] [h=3]Posted by Jim Hoft on Tuesday, August 19, 2014, 10:00 AM[/h]
The Gateway Pundit can now confirm from two local St. Louis sources that police Officer Darren Wilson suffered facial fractures during his confrontation with deceased 18 year-old Michael Brown. Officer Wilson clearly feared for his life during the incident that led to the shooting death of Brown.
Local St. Louis sources said Wilson suffered an “orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket.” This comes from a source within the Prosecuting Attorney’s office and confirmed by the St. Louis County Police.
A blowout fracture is a fracture of one or more of the bones surrounding the eye and is commonly referred to as an orbital floor fracture. (AAPOS) This comes after St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporter tweeted out last night that a dozen local witnesses confirmed Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson’s version of the Brown shooting story.
The Gateway Pundit can now confirm from two local St. Louis sources that police Officer Darren Wilson suffered facial fractures during his confrontation with deceased 18 year-old Michael Brown. Officer Wilson clearly feared for his life during the incident that led to the shooting death of Brown.
Local St. Louis sources said Wilson suffered an “orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket.” This comes from a source within the Prosecuting Attorney’s office and confirmed by the St. Louis County Police.
A blowout fracture is a fracture of one or more of the bones surrounding the eye and is commonly referred to as an orbital floor fracture. (AAPOS) This comes after St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporter tweeted out last night that a dozen local witnesses confirmed Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson’s version of the Brown shooting story.
I'm glad to read that everyone is keeping an open mind and that no one is opinionated about the kid, the situation or the police.
It's OK to have an opinion, even if a person does it without facts to back them up. After all, we are in America and are allowed to think and speak freely. However, I believe that when people begin to talk smack or badly about a person or groups of people they may be crossing the line. How can anyone judge someone or a group of people, like cops, when maybe just 1% are out of touch with reality and behave poorly? What about the other 99%? For me, I would never want to be in a society without police, at least not here in the U.S. and I would be willing to bet a dollar that the people in Ferguson, black or white, would not want to be either. No one ever accused all cops as being only good guys with super human intelligence and having the most common sense.
I am not a cop, never been or wanted to be a cop, but I respect most of them and appreciate the job that they do. Sure, some cops walk around with that, "I dare you to knock that chip off of my shoulder" attitude, but I have found most cops to be friendly, helpful and ready to perform their duty. It's like anything else in life; we have good plumbers and bad plumbers, good doctors and bad doctors and good cops and bad cops.
I am willing to let this thing in Missouri play itself out and then make my case. (You would never believe how upset I was when Casey Anthony walked.) I guess some people are just at war with the world and everybody in it.
It's OK to have an opinion, even if a person does it without facts to back them up. After all, we are in America and are allowed to think and speak freely. However, I believe that when people begin to talk smack or badly about a person or groups of people they may be crossing the line. How can anyone judge someone or a group of people, like cops, when maybe just 1% are out of touch with reality and behave poorly? What about the other 99%? For me, I would never want to be in a society without police, at least not here in the U.S. and I would be willing to bet a dollar that the people in Ferguson, black or white, would not want to be either. No one ever accused all cops as being only good guys with super human intelligence and having the most common sense.
I am not a cop, never been or wanted to be a cop, but I respect most of them and appreciate the job that they do. Sure, some cops walk around with that, "I dare you to knock that chip off of my shoulder" attitude, but I have found most cops to be friendly, helpful and ready to perform their duty. It's like anything else in life; we have good plumbers and bad plumbers, good doctors and bad doctors and good cops and bad cops.
I am willing to let this thing in Missouri play itself out and then make my case. (You would never believe how upset I was when Casey Anthony walked.) I guess some people are just at war with the world and everybody in it.
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I'm sure your comments here apply to the black community also....that they are not all on welfare or out rioting for entertainment.
No disrespect meant, but does anyone find it strange that when a police officer shoots a white person, an investigation takes place, the officer is put on leave while the investigation takes place. With the Michael Brown case, there is looting, violence, peace marches, a Black Panther Rally chanting Death to Officer Darren Wilson, a Presidential press conference, Attorney General asked to personally oversee an investigation, President shortening his vacation to speak with advisors over the shooting, more than 40 FBI agents canvassing neighborhoods where the shooting occurred. 3 autopsies etc. It looks more like an assassination or terrorist attack took place in Ferguson.
I agree Misty, it's more like a terrorist attack or planned assassination happened there. I've said before that a lot of the media seem to also be pitting citizens against each other, or 'race baiting'. There were many blacks attacking whites and Asians in the knockout game awhile back, that slip through the cracks of the news, but when the one white jerk from Texas decided to hit a black man in the same manner just to see if he'd make headlines, he was proven right.
They had a big thing that it was a "hate crime". What crime isn't a hate crime? And years back when the homosexual man Shepherd was killed, the media had a field day saying how it was nothing but hate against gays. Come to find out that this guy was actively involved in drug deals, and the murderer himself was gay. But, we didn't hear much about that.
When that character Zimmerman killed Martin, they went on and on about how a white guy killed a black child. Well, Zimmerman sure didn't look like any white people in my family, but it made headlines, got people angry and baited one race against another. Zimmerman needed to just mind his business, and let the police handle the problem, if in fact there ever was one. There are bad whites, blacks and policemen. Each case should be dealt with as you say, have an investigation and leave behind the media circus and all the drama that's tied to it.
They had a big thing that it was a "hate crime". What crime isn't a hate crime? And years back when the homosexual man Shepherd was killed, the media had a field day saying how it was nothing but hate against gays. Come to find out that this guy was actively involved in drug deals, and the murderer himself was gay. But, we didn't hear much about that.
When that character Zimmerman killed Martin, they went on and on about how a white guy killed a black child. Well, Zimmerman sure didn't look like any white people in my family, but it made headlines, got people angry and baited one race against another. Zimmerman needed to just mind his business, and let the police handle the problem, if in fact there ever was one. There are bad whites, blacks and policemen. Each case should be dealt with as you say, have an investigation and leave behind the media circus and all the drama that's tied to it.
"Give peace a chance, yes, but why not get serious and give it a place in the curriculum: peace courses in every school, every grade, every nation. Unless we teach our children peace, someone else will teach them violence." -Coleman McCarthy
There is never an excuse for looting, stealing, stereotyping or murder. The whole picture is a horrible testament to the state of affairs in America. Neither course justifies the other. Each should be addressed and corrected separately. I am a black female retired cop and the mother of a 33 year old man.
There is never an excuse for looting, stealing, stereotyping or murder. The whole picture is a horrible testament to the state of affairs in America. Neither course justifies the other. Each should be addressed and corrected separately. I am a black female retired cop and the mother of a 33 year old man.
drifter
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We look at things and see it differently. The western states are somewhat immune but i see the US drifting toward a third world mentality and employment. We're already a police state. We'll be a third world police state with a large stock market designed to rtelieve the small investor of his money (in other words rigged).
We've had a war on in this country against black men. We send a bunch to prison, kill a certain amount and watch and watch the others like hawks. What else can they do but what they're doing. I know. Everyone thinks they deserve what they get. The world will never be the same as the one you grew up in, worked in, and retired in. The country she is a-changing, going down hill my friends. If you're flush and have it made, enjoy.
We've had a war on in this country against black men. We send a bunch to prison, kill a certain amount and watch and watch the others like hawks. What else can they do but what they're doing. I know. Everyone thinks they deserve what they get. The world will never be the same as the one you grew up in, worked in, and retired in. The country she is a-changing, going down hill my friends. If you're flush and have it made, enjoy.
America is changing, and we should just accept it and work on the issues that we're having here these days, improving our economic position, and not fighting with fellow Americans...we're all in the same boat. It seems that we worry more about other countries nowadays, while ignoring the fact that ours is going down the toilet, with business going overseas for tax breaks, etc.
It seems like certain things have become the 'new normal' in America, whether we like it or not. I think rather than being upset over it, and wishing things were as they were in the past, we'd be better just to accept it, even if we can't embrace it. We can't look back, we have to see things now for what they are and accept them...or actively try to change them if at all possible.
Interest rates on our savings accounts, CDs, IRAs use to be higher, giving us a good feeling about putting aside some money for our retirements, etc. Now they are so low, it's depressing. They used to give you a free toaster to open a checking account in a bank, now they charge you to keep your money their, and use their facility. Many have a monthly fee, especially if your funds go below their limit, like $1,000.
Americans used to be proud, and feel safe and free in their country. Now, even the best of citizens are held under a microscope for inspection by the government. Our every move is monitored by a camera, recorder or computer. Instead of them having to prove our guilt, now we have to fight to prove our innocence.
In the past, most people took care of their own, even if it was a struggle. There was a family model, and children were raised to respect their parents and elders, obey laws and rules at school, and be accountable for their own actions. Folks were eager to help each other too, and those who had hard luck in the workplace, were not content until they found new employment, regardless of salary, just to make ends meet. Now, people expect to be taken care of, and never know the value and pride of taking care of themselves and their families, and I see it happening with all races.
Years ago farmers and ranchers could devote their lives to growing and producing to provide crops and food for others in the US, and make a living at it. Now, they're being monitored by drones and red-tape. They're being told what seeds they can or cannot use, they have lost all of their individual freedom to seek and acquire the American dream.
It used to be that if you chose a specific medical treatment for your condition, it was not disputed. If you didn't want to get a vaccination, then it wasn't forced, just suggested. Now, if a parent with a child who has cancer want to use alternative treatments, they are threatened by the government to have their child removed from the home, and forced to use chemotherapy and radiation against their wills. If you don't want to get certain vaccinations, there are more laws and regulations to mandate it, taking all of your free choice away.
People worked hard all their lives, and paid their taxes like responsible citizens...looking forward to retirement in their old age, social security and Medicare...now they're looked down on like they expect welfare or 'entitlements'. It seems like the seniors are getting a slap in the face for their hard work.
People were amazed at the invention of the computer, now it controls our lives. People no longer have any contact with each other, they only know what they see and hear on social media. They are glued to their devices, and often even sleep with them. They no longer develop emotionally or mentally with life experiences, some younger teens have no empathy or compassion for their fellow man...they are self-involved, telling their stories and taking selfies, trying to outdo the other 'friend' on their social page.
It seems like everything is out of our control, and any changes being made are no longer for the good of the people and the nation. Things weren't perfect years ago, but I wish I could turn back the hands of time. Now, our habits and thoughts are constantly being manipulated, for the benefit of the "higher-ups"...doesn't seem fair, but is just a part of the 'new normal'.
Well, isn't as doomy and gloomy when we just realize that things will never be like they were, and if we accept, deal with it, and move forward, it won't be too bad. I think the country is changing, but it doesn't have to go downhill, IMO.
It seems like certain things have become the 'new normal' in America, whether we like it or not. I think rather than being upset over it, and wishing things were as they were in the past, we'd be better just to accept it, even if we can't embrace it. We can't look back, we have to see things now for what they are and accept them...or actively try to change them if at all possible.
Interest rates on our savings accounts, CDs, IRAs use to be higher, giving us a good feeling about putting aside some money for our retirements, etc. Now they are so low, it's depressing. They used to give you a free toaster to open a checking account in a bank, now they charge you to keep your money their, and use their facility. Many have a monthly fee, especially if your funds go below their limit, like $1,000.
Americans used to be proud, and feel safe and free in their country. Now, even the best of citizens are held under a microscope for inspection by the government. Our every move is monitored by a camera, recorder or computer. Instead of them having to prove our guilt, now we have to fight to prove our innocence.
In the past, most people took care of their own, even if it was a struggle. There was a family model, and children were raised to respect their parents and elders, obey laws and rules at school, and be accountable for their own actions. Folks were eager to help each other too, and those who had hard luck in the workplace, were not content until they found new employment, regardless of salary, just to make ends meet. Now, people expect to be taken care of, and never know the value and pride of taking care of themselves and their families, and I see it happening with all races.
Years ago farmers and ranchers could devote their lives to growing and producing to provide crops and food for others in the US, and make a living at it. Now, they're being monitored by drones and red-tape. They're being told what seeds they can or cannot use, they have lost all of their individual freedom to seek and acquire the American dream.
It used to be that if you chose a specific medical treatment for your condition, it was not disputed. If you didn't want to get a vaccination, then it wasn't forced, just suggested. Now, if a parent with a child who has cancer want to use alternative treatments, they are threatened by the government to have their child removed from the home, and forced to use chemotherapy and radiation against their wills. If you don't want to get certain vaccinations, there are more laws and regulations to mandate it, taking all of your free choice away.
People worked hard all their lives, and paid their taxes like responsible citizens...looking forward to retirement in their old age, social security and Medicare...now they're looked down on like they expect welfare or 'entitlements'. It seems like the seniors are getting a slap in the face for their hard work.
People were amazed at the invention of the computer, now it controls our lives. People no longer have any contact with each other, they only know what they see and hear on social media. They are glued to their devices, and often even sleep with them. They no longer develop emotionally or mentally with life experiences, some younger teens have no empathy or compassion for their fellow man...they are self-involved, telling their stories and taking selfies, trying to outdo the other 'friend' on their social page.
It seems like everything is out of our control, and any changes being made are no longer for the good of the people and the nation. Things weren't perfect years ago, but I wish I could turn back the hands of time. Now, our habits and thoughts are constantly being manipulated, for the benefit of the "higher-ups"...doesn't seem fair, but is just a part of the 'new normal'.
Well, isn't as doomy and gloomy when we just realize that things will never be like they were, and if we accept, deal with it, and move forward, it won't be too bad. I think the country is changing, but it doesn't have to go downhill, IMO.
BREAKING REPORT: Officer Darren Wilson Suffered “Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket” During Mike Brown Attack
Posted by Jim Hoft on Tuesday, August 19, 2014, 10:00 AM
The Gateway Pundit can now confirm from two local St. Louis sources that police Officer Darren Wilson suffered facial fractures during his confrontation with deceased 18 year-old Michael Brown. Officer Wilson clearly feared for his life during the incident that led to the shooting death of Brown.
Local St. Louis sources said Wilson suffered an “orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket.” This comes from a source within the Prosecuting Attorney’s office and confirmed by the St. Louis County Police.
A blowout fracture is a fracture of one or more of the bones surrounding the eye and is commonly referred to as an orbital floor fracture. (AAPOS) This comes after St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporter tweeted out last night that a dozen local witnesses confirmed Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson’s version of the Brown shooting story.
I see evidence of a struggle. The protestors will see a fabricated excuse although it came out early on the officer had to be checked for swelling. Then I hear something to the effect the officers weapon went off during a preliminary struggle in the car. Many witnesses are confirming the officer was charged or the suspect was charging. But the protestors/talking heads say if the shots were fired with the suspect over 35 ft away the officer was not in danger?
The most troubling is the extortion being attempted by the protestors demanding an immediate arrest and prosecution-mob rule. Have no problem with a formal inquiry in addition to a normal shooting review but to imply a preferred outcome is extortion.
Appalling but not surprising was the Democratic governor demanding a vigorous prosecution. It not only implies guilt but it is obvious pandering.
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I hear that the matter will go before a Grand Jury to decide whether a prosecution is warranted.
Little note about the good that's happening in Ferguson...http://kindnessblog.com/2014/08/20/another-view-of-ferguson-kindness-generosity-and-compassion/
Ferguson Prosecutor Says No Charge Decision Until October
By Tim Bross Aug 20, 2014 2:59 PM CT
The Missouri grand jury that began considering evidence today in the police killing of an unarmed man won’t decide whether to indict Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson until October “at the earliest,” a spokesman for the local prosecutor said.
The grand jury, which is presented testimony and other evidence by prosecutors, must decide whether to indict Wilson for the shooting in the St. Louis suburb, and on what charge.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...rge-decision-until-october.html#disqus_thread
By Tim Bross Aug 20, 2014 2:59 PM CT
The Missouri grand jury that began considering evidence today in the police killing of an unarmed man won’t decide whether to indict Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson until October “at the earliest,” a spokesman for the local prosecutor said.
The grand jury, which is presented testimony and other evidence by prosecutors, must decide whether to indict Wilson for the shooting in the St. Louis suburb, and on what charge.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...rge-decision-until-october.html#disqus_thread
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