Moving into the high mountains ?

Put into your Search area online in internet: is it legal to collect rainwater?

In most States it is legal. Yes, I read “it is legal, in most States”

The U.S. Government would like to control rainwater, but that hasn’t happened yet.

Perhaps someone will find something different, but, until then.....
 

rgp said:
Regarding rainwater, as I understand it?...it has to do with reservoir size. No one in certain areas is permitted to collect..Period....So the size of the reservoir doesn't matter . That stops any & all attempts [of] collecting...allowing the water to flow freely for everyone. Everyone is of course permitted then to go to the natural reservoir.... pond, lake,stream,river...etc & get their water there.
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Not in the dry west. Water is treated as any other resource. Some person, corporation, or government entity owns it. Municipal water supplies, agricultural water, and drinking water are all included.

Some years ago Boulder, Colorado, a city that owns a glacier and has plenty of drinking water, refused to sell it to another city to relieve their costly bills and poor water quality. They were called plenty of names, but no one ever disputed their ownership.

Traveler said:
Who owns it ? The federal govenment ? If someone tries to stop me from collecting rainwater they're going to have a fight on their hands. How dare they tell me that I can't have any water ?

I'm not into religion, but for a lack of better words, I have an absolute "god given right" to rainwater. The same as I do to breathe air.
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You have no right to anyone else's property. How would you like it if people upstream on the Colorado River took water as they wished? Would you like them to impound the snow melt? What would you and your fellow Californians drink?

Don't believe me? Ask a lawyer.
 
So, Big Horn, are you saying that the government owns the sky. The clouds ? And the rain that falls from those clouds ?
 

Traveler said:
HI BIG HORN, THERE IS ANOTHER WAY TO GET/STORE WATER THAT I CAME UP WITH. MY TRUCK IS WIRED UP SO THAT I CAN HAVE 120 VOLT A/C. IF I AM RIGHT CLOSE TO A FRESH MOUNTAIN STREAM, ALL I NEED TO DO IS BUY A USED 200-300 GAL WATER TANK AND BURY IT ( so it doesn't freeze in the winter). IT IS THEN A SIMPLE MATTER OF USING A PORTABLE WATER PUMP. TOSS ONE HOSE INTO THE STREAM, CONNECT IT TO THE PUMP AND THEN A 2nd HOSE THAT RUNS TO THE WATER TANK. START THE TRUCK (to get the juice flowing) TURN ON THE PUMP AND VIOLA, FULL WATER TANK.

Remember to purify that 'fresh mountain' water. Can be source of some nasty microbs

THEN, IT IS A SIMPLE MATTER OF USING A D/C WATER PUMP (like the kind used in RV's) TO PUMP WATER, ON DEMAND, INTO THE HOUSE. THAT PUMP IS POWERED BY A 12VOLT MARINE/RV, DEEP CYCLE BATTERY WHICH GETS CONSTANTLY RECHARGED BY A SOLAR PANEL.

FREE WATER, FREE ELECTRIC, NO LABOR ! THE OLD BOY IS NOT ENTIRLEY DAFT, JUST YET.
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Be sure to purify that fresh mountain water. Any can be full of nasty micro thingies
 
helenbacque said:
Be sure to purify that fresh mountain water. Any can be full of nasty micro thingies
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Yeah. I thought about that. An American buddy of mine, a retired U.S. Army Sgt Major, who is now living in The Philippines, says that he can tell me everything I need to know about how to purify water.
 
I have been reading the State of Idaho water rights laws. The Idaho water commission board clearly states that a property owner may divert water from a stream or well on his/her property for domestic purposes and/or for irrigation, live stock watering, etc.

So, it appears that is one problem out of the way. I would, naturally, confer with an attorney prior to buying any Idaho land.
 
treeguy64;8022 As for his building his own cabin: His heart may actually attack him if he's planning on bringing down his own trees and trying to build a log cabin out of the same. Trees are heavy said:
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It was never my intention to fell timber to build a LOG cabin. However, if I needed to clear a small spot for a building site I am more than capable of doing that, as I once worked in Northern California (Arcata) working for a land surveyor. For 2 yrs I was married to a Briggs and Stratton
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It was never my intention to fell timber to build a LOG cabin. However, if I needed to clear a small spot for a building site I am more than capable of doing that, as I once worked in Northern California (Arcata) working for a land surveyor. For 2 yrs I was married to a Briggs and Stratton
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I'm concerned with the 'Briggs and Stratton' part in regard to.....chain saws?
First I ever heard Briggs engine and tree falling, which usually involves chainsaws, in the same paragraph


New one on me
 
Y’know, this ignore thing is pretty cool
I can interject my own third person commentary

However, in a nutshell, I do believe Traveler has this
Sure, he’ll make mistakes
But he’s a thinking guy
Everbody I talked to that had done it, before we moved here, said pretty much the same thing, ‘it takes at least two seasons to begin to get it together’

What I hadn’t fully comprehended was the ‘begin to’ part
There’s do overs, start overs
They take a bit more time
But during that time, the smugness changes to grim determination
To not repeat

Anyway

I fully believe Traveler will have this if he does it.
And wish him all the best
(hope to hell he can savor each moment, even the bad ones)
 
Big Horn said:
Not in the dry west. Water is treated as any other resource. Some person, corporation, or government entity owns it. Municipal water supplies, agricultural water, and drinking water are all included.

Some years ago Boulder, Colorado, a city that owns a glacier and has plenty of drinking water, refused to sell it to another city to relieve their costly bills and poor water quality. They were called plenty of names, but no one ever disputed their ownership.

You have no right to anyone else's property. How would you like it if people upstream on the Colorado River took water as they wished? Would you like them to impound the snow melt? What would you and your fellow Californians drink?

Don't believe me? Ask a lawyer.
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Apparently I have something wrong , or misunderstood...That is why I started with "As I understand it"
 
Big Horn said:
There are plenty of properties for sale. Take a look. You can find out about water laws after you see if any Idaho properties appeal to you.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=idaho+mountain+proprty+for+sale&t=hh&ia=web
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Big Horn, I appreciate your posting the property web site. I truly do. Ultimately the property I want will most likely be found by nosing around, talking to the average guy, reading small local newspapers, and those little (oh, hell I can't think of the name of those little papers that list stuff for sale) but you know what I mean. Sometimes there are "bank owned" properties they are just dying to get rid of. You know, the kind of property that few other people want because it is only a bare bones place. Or, because it's too far off the beaten path.

But I'd still prefer to build my own place. If that's not possible then....

People these days are afraid of a little sweat and hard work. I'm not. I love it.

The 1st house I bought, I paid only 29 K for. I renovated it myself and sold it for 132K, only 2 yrs later. All in my spare time.
 
Traveler said:
Big Horn, I appreciate your posting the property web site. I truly do. Ultimately the property I want will most likely be found by nosing around, talking to the average guy, reading small local newspapers, and those little (oh, hell I can't think of the name of those little papers that list stuff for sale) but you know what I mean. Sometimes there are "bank owned" properties they are just dying to get rid of. You know, the kind of property that few other people want because it is only a bare bones place. Or, because it's too far off the beaten path.

But I'd still prefer to build my own place. If that's not possible then....

People these days are afraid of a little sweat and hard work. I'm not. I love it.

The 1st house I bought, I paid only 29 K for. I renovated it myself and sold it for 132K, only 2 yrs later. All in my spare time.
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You definitely sound like my brother. He absolutely loves getting dirty and hard work. Him and mechanic work and building things get along great. As for me, I'm totally different. With the way he works, nobody would ever believe the guy is totally retired.
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Traveler said:
Big Horn, I appreciate your posting the property web site. I truly do. Ultimately the property I want will most likely be found by nosing around, talking to the average guy, reading small local newspapers, and those little (oh, hell I can't think of the name of those little papers that list stuff for sale) but you know what I mean. Sometimes there are "bank owned" properties they are just dying to get rid of. You know, the kind of property that few other people want because it is only a bare bones place. Or, because it's too far off the beaten path.

But I'd still prefer to build my own place. If that's not possible then....

People these days are afraid of a little sweat and hard work. I'm not. I love it.

The 1st house I bought, I paid only 29 K for. I renovated it myself and sold it for 132K, only 2 yrs later. All in my spare time.
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Banks hardly ever finance raw land. The little papers still exist; we have a nice one here in addition to our local paper. However, this is the day of the internet—for everyone. I didn't link to a website. I linked to the search results for mountain properties in Idaho.
 
It is entirely possible that I am living in the past. All of the properties that I have seen thus far (at least in the west) are either cheap priced properties that are out on the plains, without a tree in sight or are ridiculously high priced wooded land.

Whatever it takes, I just know that I've got to get out of the city. Too damn stressful for me.

There must be somewhere I can live without being bothered by crime, big government bullies, that want to control every little thing I do, and far away from people.

I've always been a Travelin' man. 5 years in one spot seems like an eternity. What makes other people happy, bores me to death. Sure would be nice to have one last great challenge.
 
Traveler said:
It is entirely possible that I am living in the past. All of the properties that I have seen thus far (at least in the west) are either cheap priced properties that are out on the plains, without a tree in sight or are ridiculously high priced wooded land.

Whatever it takes, I just know that I've got to get out of the city. Too damn stressful for me.

There must be somewhere I can live without being bothered by crime, big government bullies, that want to control every little thing I do, and far away from people.

I've always been a Travelin' man. 5 years in one spot seems like an eternity. What makes other people happy, bores me to death. Sure would be nice to have one last great challenge.
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You can have pretty; you can have cheap. You just can't have them together.
 
Big Horn said:
Flats can be as beautiful as mountains.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/d_N0J-4MlF8
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I suppose it's all a matter of taste. As a young boy I grew up in the woodlands of up-state New York. Lots of rolling, steep hills, creeks, beaver dams and deer. At grade school level, I thought it was the wilderness. Ha. Little did I know. I remember at age 17, seeing the movie "How The West Was Won". I was in awe. And I knew, from that instant, that I had to see the real mountains for myself.

For a few years I lived high up in the Rockies, in a tiny town called Avon (which is now unrecognizable) just a few miles west of Vail, Colorado.
 
I have located a gorgeous piece of raw land. Only $14,000 with $300 down and only $109/month.akil-approx-b5l2,3-2.jpg

The only problem ? The only way possible to reach it is by float plane or ski plane in winter. Deep in the heart of Alaska. hahaha
 

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