I agree that you should leave this discussion. You are talking like a politician. I, on the other hand, debate while taking a neutral stand. It shouldn't be about politics. I can't understand why LA decided to defend the illegals that are criminals and not allow ICE to do their job. They should be allowed to grab all illegals that have a criminal record. No one said a damn word when Obama also deported illegals.
I'm not talking like a politician, I'm not one, and don't ever want to be one. I do, however, have fears that I think are justified. Those fears may or may not resonate with you, which is why we discuss and debate things, right? I seriously doubt anyone truly wants to prevent ICE from doing their job -
it is about the way they do it (and in this case the wanton use of the military against US citizens).
When you plan to walk the stands at huge sporting events, stopping and demanding residency or holiday visa's, I think you've entered an era where none of us are truly safe. Perhaps you wouldn't mind having to present your papers once, twice, or however many times you're asked because of your skin color or the language you're speaking, but that ought to frighten normal folk, imo.
And yes, I accept you feel differently, and I'm okay with that. Not everyone in this thread is offensive with it, but sadly, some are, and those I wish to avoid, that's all. It is one thing to be asked for the meaning of a comment posted, but quite another when someone jumps to a negative conclusion and then insists their assumption is correct. It's the equivalent of walking up to a stranger and screaming that they are racist without any context, against simply asking someone what their thoughts were on the topic.
"In George Orwell's 1984, the primary antagonists are the Party, specifically the Inner Party, and its leader, Big Brother, who represent the totalitarian regime of Oceania. While Big Brother is more of a symbolic figure, the Inner Party and its enforcers, like O'Brien, actively control and oppress the population. "
And a story from June 18th:
Today, Members of Congress
Danny K. Davis (IL-07), Jesús “Chuy” García (IL-04), Delia C. Ramirez (IL-03), and Jonathan Jackson (IL-01) joined immigration lawyers and advocates to conduct a visit to the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Processing Center in Broadview, Illinois. The Members were unlawfully denied entry, even after identifying themselves with their official Congressional voting cards.
The visit was prompted by reports that the center is unlawfully being used against city and state ordinances as a detention center, where migrants are being denied access to their attorneys and held in inhumane and unsanitary conditions, sleeping on the floor, and without complete meals. Under appropriation laws, Members of Congress have the authority to enter any facility operated by or for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) used to detain or otherwise house people without advance notice.
“Today, I visited the Broadview Processing Center in our district to stand with my colleagues and families navigating the uncertainty of Homeland Security processes. Providing direct services—legal counsel, translation help, connection to community support—is not just a gesture, it’s a responsibility,”
said Congressman Davis. “Our constituents deserve dignity and clarity, especially when they’re at their most vulnerable. I’ll continue to advocate for transparency and fair treatment, and fight to ensure federal agencies in our district operate with accountability and humanity.”
“We came to this center today and respectfully asked to be allowed to conduct an oversight visit, but were denied entry. Last week about 200 people received texts and emails ordering them to report to this processing center and then were detained,”
said Congressman García. “Some families were told to come to the processing center on a day when families should have been celebrating Father’s Day. But [political rhetoric removed], their children found themselves not knowing where their dads were or when they would see them again. These are not criminals. These are hard working people who are contributing to our country.”
