"Mystery" Drones Flying Over Parts of New Jersey, New York & Pennsylvania

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fuzzybuddy said:
Yeah, people are buying drones and flying them, so exactly why is everybody freaking out?
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I'd think one reason would be that they're huge and seen in three states, so not just some hobbyist playing around in his/her back yard... but more importantly, they're seen a lot around Picatinny Arsenal and even the little hobby drones are not allowed anywhere near there. And although it's not been mentioned, drones can be weaponized.
 
JBR said:
Admittedly, I'm a resident & citizen of another country. But I truly doubt "everybody" in the U.S. (or even the East Coast) is freaking out. Not meaning to say this isn't a concern the public would appreciate factual info about.
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Stupidly, this is a big deal in the US. On TV, if you seen a drone, you're supposed to call in to a special number. And our Congressmen are sending official letters to agencies demanding answers. It's like Orson Welles "War of the Worlds" radio cast, when he convinced the nation aliens had landed on earth.
 

HermitHogan said:
We're spending some $840 billion this year on defense. One would think that would be enough to come up with some kind of defense to go after a couple of drones that are estimated to be about six feet in diameter.
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Well, it's not impossible, but it is challenging. The reflectivity and other factors come into play, just as they do with hang gliders and such. Some things just reflect energy better than others, just as some things reflect light better than others. Line of sight is also important. Many things that may sound easy aren't.
 
bobcat said:
Well, it's not impossible, but it is challenging. The reflectivity and other factors come into play, just as they do with hang gliders and such. Some things just reflect energy better than others, just as some things reflect light better than others. Line of sight is also important. Many things that may sound easy aren't.
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We can knock out an ICBM traveling at hypersonic speeds. I'm pretty sure the technology is well within our engineering and scientific capabilities to manufacture a couple of high-speed surveillance drones that could fly up there to see what these other drones are doing. I have a hard time believing we don't have any. Then again, this is the military we're talking about.
 
HermitHogan said:
We can knock out an ICBM traveling at hypersonic speeds. I'm pretty sure the technology is well within our engineering and scientific capabilities to manufacture a couple of high-speed surveillance drones that could fly up there to see what these other drones are doing. I have a hard time believing we don't have any. Then again, this is the military we're talking about.
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Well Pennsylvania alone is 46,000 square miles. Assuming one drone could regularly patrol 100 square miles, that's 460 drones just for one state. That sounds like more than a couple to me. I'm not sure that residents are going to want sky patrols flying over their neighborhoods either, but perhaps I'm wrong about that.

I'm not in favor of drone flying especially if they are used in spying on others. However, I am aware that most all realtors now enlist photographers who use them for capturing photos of properties they are listing for sale. Those drones have cameras, and it would be difficult to follow each one, and demand to see the pictures. Sometimes they are also used by utility companies to inspect their power lines, and sometimes by insurance companies, tree companies, and even entertainment footage for film and television, not to mention deliveries.

I know it can be a nuisance, but it may not be that easy to remedy.
 
It isn't just private drones. If so you wouldn't have every level of law enforcement, political leadership, and military running around like chickens as we do.
 
bobcat said:
Well Pennsylvania alone is 46,000 square miles. Assuming one drone could regularly patrol 100 square miles, that's 460 drones just for one state. That sounds like more than a couple to me. I'm not sure that residents are going to want sky patrols flying over their neighborhoods either, but perhaps I'm wrong about that.

I'm not in favor of drone flying especially if they are used in spying on others. However, I am aware that most all realtors now enlist photographers who use them for capturing photos of properties they are listing for sale. Those drones have cameras, and it would be difficult to follow each one, and demand to see the pictures. Sometimes they are also used by utility companies to inspect their power lines, and sometimes by insurance companies, tree companies, and even entertainment footage for film and television, not to mention deliveries.

I know it can be a nuisance, but it may not be that easy to remedy.
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These drones are up to 10 feet in diameter!

Neil deGrasse Tyson agrees with me on the military's impotence regarding the drones.
 
Read a report that the military (or somebody) cautioned against shooting them down because they could maybe might carry a nefarious payload. Could explode on impact or release a chemical agent or something ... but wait ...

Didn't they also say the drones were no threat, non-military and not from foreign operatives? Well hmmm :unsure:

The military SHOULD also be able to jam any frequencies used to control the drones. In theory anyway. Wouldn't have to shoot them down. If frequencies jammed though ... could be a risk of where they might go and/or come down. And the drones are flying in populated areas, so there's that I guess.
 
Naturally said:
Read a report that the military (or somebody) cautioned against shooting them down because they could maybe might carry a nefarious payload. Could explode on impact or release a chemical agent or something ... but wait ...

Didn't they also say the drones were no threat, non-military and not from foreign operatives? Well hmmm :unsure:

The military SHOULD also be able to jam any frequencies used to control the drones. In theory anyway. Wouldn't have to shoot them down. If frequencies jammed though ... could be a risk of where they might go and/or come down. And the drones are flying in populated areas, so there's that I guess.
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I believe that if you jam their signal, they can just return to wherever they came from autonomously. If the military wasn't so inept, they could jam the signal and then follow the drones back to wherever they were launched from.
 
HermitHogan said:
These drones are up to 10 feet in diameter!

Neil deGrasse Tyson agrees with me on the military's impotence regarding the drones.
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"Loss of trust in experts" being "lethal"? Oh, give me a break! If there are drones "up to 10 feet in diameter" whose existence can only be confirmed by me filming it on my i-phone :rolleyes: then someone is pulling my leg! I mean, seriously! Cut the crap.
 
Naturally said:
Read a report that the military (or somebody) cautioned against shooting them down because they could maybe might carry a nefarious payload. Could explode on impact or release a chemical agent or something ... but wait ...

Didn't they also say the drones were no threat, non-military and not from foreign operatives? Well hmmm :unsure:

The military SHOULD also be able to jam any frequencies used to control the drones. In theory anyway. Wouldn't have to shoot them down. If frequencies jammed though ... could be a risk of where they might go and/or come down. And the drones are flying in populated areas, so there's that I guess.
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Personally I think that "not a threat" is a cover or another way of saying "We don't know what the hell they are or what to do about them". :LOL:Officials are now being pressured by other officials (politicians on both sides of the aisle) to do something. That includes suggestions to shoot them down. I hadn't thought of reasons you posted as to why that wouldn't be advisable, but since they are allegedly the size of cars, I thought that in and of itself would cause a danger according to where the drone(s) landed.

@fuzzybuddy residents in the neighborhoods these drones are flying over are uneasy and don't like that they are there (so many at that). I can't blame them. Drones can be used to spy on people in their own homes whether or not they keep their curtains and blinds closed. I've dismissed the idea that they could be Amazon or other companies trying out delivery drones or that they're checking power lines (both mentioned earlier) because they show up at night.
 
HermitHogan said:
These drones are up to 10 feet in diameter!

Neil deGrasse Tyson agrees with me on the military's impotence regarding the drones.
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You have to use a little common sense here. Just because you might be able to detect something, you can't just shoot it down unless you know it's a threat. You can't scramble jets every time something like this shows up, and you can't launch an ICBM to take it down, and you can't shoot it down with a rocket launcher over a populated area due to legal and safety concerns.

Just knowing "something" unidentified is there doesn't mean you can easily get rid of it. Maybe you can track it, and maybe you can't. I think in a very short while, the source of these drones will be revealed, and if any laws are broken, those using them will be punished.
 
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Heard on a news report last night that, when one news helicopter approached them, they turned off their lights ? and just flew away. Same thing when a C/guard copter approached one ??

Why doesn't the military just shoot them down ? Like the balloon .
 
If the military wanted them down, a well armed A-10 Warthog would do the trick. Don't think they could outrun or shake a trusty Warthog.
The A-10's GAU-8 30 mm rotary cannon is arguably its most famous feature. Mounted in the nose, this Gatling gun is one of the most powerful fitted to an aircraft to date. Its rapid bursts are responsible for the A-10s famous raspy sound, which comes from its seven barrels firing 65 rounds per second.
 
Naturally said:
Read a report that the military (or somebody) cautioned against shooting them down because they could maybe might carry a nefarious payload. Could explode on impact or release a chemical agent or something ... but wait ...

Didn't they also say the drones were no threat, non-military and not from foreign operatives? Well hmmm :unsure:

The military SHOULD also be able to jam any frequencies used to control the drones. In theory anyway. Wouldn't have to shoot them down. If frequencies jammed though ... could be a risk of where they might go and/or come down. And the drones are flying in populated areas, so there's that I guess.
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We are governed by IQ-challenged hysterical women of both genders.
 
Most of the pictures and videos that I have seen about these drones (or whatever they are) seems to be at night. Are people also seeing them in the daytime ?
If they are spying on people, there are fewer people outside at night to spy on, it would seem like. And it does not make sense that it is realtors doing overhead videos of sale property at night either. So, I think that they are some kind of distraction, but I have no idea what we are being distracted from.

Unless we really are having the long-promised alien invasion, I believe that our government and the military know exactly what these things are, and why they are there.
Even Elon Musk, who is interested in all things about space, has not ventured an opinion on the drones, at least that I have seen on X; which also leads me to believe that they are not a complete mystery to everyone.
 

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